gnrfan2007 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 (edited) With CD, Axl has fulfilled his promise to outdo AFD.This is the conclusion I have come to. Clearly, CD and AFD are different beasts created in different eras.But musically, CD is much better than AFD. From a musician point of view, CD blows AFD away. Anybody could cover the songs on AFD with ease. CD is not so easy to cover.The lyrics on CD are also much more matured than on AFD. Obviously, a more grown up, wiser, and mature Axl will give your more mature lyrics.Of course CD is not going to outsell AFD. But that's because of timing and a different era. When AFD was released, it was simply the right album for the generation of young people at the time.CD lyrically is not going to speak to the mass population of young people today, simply because Axl is from a different era.More fans may be able to sing along to the songs on AFD than on CD. But musically, musicians will find CD to be much more influential.For these reasons, I truly honestly believe that CD is much better than AFD.What do you think and why? Edited September 2, 2011 by gnrfan2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuddMckagan Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 (edited) Technically better does not always mean musically better. To me AFD is THE Guns N' Roses album. The album flows perfectly from one song to the next. Appetite is a bluesy hard rockin album that is a combination of 5 guys who were fighting their way to success one step at a time and had a burning motivation to kick everyone's ass. Don't get me wrong I love Chinese Democracy, but for me Appetite is the record that has all the elements of a timeless classic. The Illusions come close, but no Guns album imo has the flow and spark of energy that Appetite had.And speaking as a musician, even though I do appreciate the complexity that Chinese Democracy has to offer, I am more appreciative of the raw hunger and drive that is evident on AFD. The songs sound great because those 5 guys have a special chemistry that can not and have not been replicated since Edited September 2, 2011 by WhazUp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I think UYI out did AFD and I think CD, although half the length of UYI manages to out do them slightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesterdays-Civil-War Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Technically better does not always mean musically better. To me AFD is THE Guns N' Roses album. The album flows perfectly from one song to the next. Appetite is a bluesy hard rockin album that is a combination of 5 guys who were fighting their way to success one step at a time and had a burning motivation to kick everyone's ass. Don't get me wrong I love Chinese Democracy, but for me Appetite is the record that has all the elements of a timeless classic. The Illusions come close, but no Guns album imo has the flow and spark of energy that Appetite had.And speaking as a musician, even though I do appreciate the complexity that Chinese Democracy has to offer, I am more appreciative of the raw hunger and drive that is evident on AFD. The songs sound great because those 5 guys have a special chemistry that can not and have not been replicated sinceThis...just all of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st0n3r Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 While I by no means hate CD and I believe that there are some good songs on there, you should realize that CD only sold BECAUSE of AFD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdHeartBreaker Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 While I by no means hate CD and I believe that there are some good songs on there, you should realize that CD only sold BECAUSE of AFD.That has nothing to do with the quality of music.I think CD is my favourite gnr's album for various reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angeles_ Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 CD is my fav !!! cant stop loving chineseeeeeee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlaHooch Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I love CD, I love every track on it, and I still listen to it all the time.But I literally LOLed at this post. Whatever you're on, I'd like some.CD is "better" musically? Right. And Yngwie is a "better" guitarist than Eddie Van Halen because he can speed pick more notes per minute if he's sitting down with a metronome.More influential to musicians??? Whaaaaaat???Okay I'm done. I'm pretty sure Axl himself would disagree with you here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill Devil Hill Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 As of now, I like CD more by a hair, but for absolutely none of those reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 (edited) Naaaahhhh AFD > CD. AFD is not just a record. It's part of rock history, it's a landmark album, an icon. Hundreds were influenced by that album. It raised the standards for what a great rock n roll album is. It's much, much more than a great album. It's one of the greatest albums of all time by anyone of any genre. If people were to choose 10 rock n roll albums to define rock n roll, AFD would definately be on the list.CD is my favorite album of all time by any band BUT you gotta admit to the world, to music, to pop culture in general, there is no comparison. Edited September 2, 2011 by It Don't Really Matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saber_ Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Steven Adler's cowbell and snare drum own your mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st0n3r Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I wonder why some of you people always feel the need to 'prove' that CD is better than AFD. It's a completely different beast. And let's be honest here: With CD, Guns didn't get any new fans. AFD is the reason we're all here. Does that make CD bad? Not by any means, but AFD is the better album. Maybe CD is 'technically' better, but really, since when does 'technique' by itself makes a good song? If that was the case, Yngwie Malmsteen would own all of GNR. But he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Naaaahhhh AFD > CD. AFD is not just a record. It's part of rock history, it's a landmark album, an icon. Hundreds were influenced by that album. It raised the standards for what a great rock n roll album is. It's much, much more than a great album. It's one of the greatest albums of all time by anyone of any genre. If people were to choose 10 rock n roll albums to define rock n roll, AFD would definately be on the list.CD is my favorite album of all time by any band BUT you gotta admit to the world, to music, to pop culture in general, there is no comparison.Exactly.Appetite carved itself into Rock and Roll history. It is a landmark album, an icon.CD, imo, is an underrated masterpiece. It is every bit as good as either Illusions.CD is a home run. Appetite is a grand slam home run in the bottom of the 9th inning to win the world series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Is this for real? You honestly think more musicians will be influenced by CD than appetite? How many people want Slash tone versus whoever the hell played on CD? The AFD guitar tone is one of the most sought out tones of all time, probably more than anyone else. You can't be serious. What a lame thread...+1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocBrown Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I love CD, but it's not as good as Appetite. It is my second favorite GNR album though.Nothing will ever top Appetite. It's just not possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintari Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 It's all in how I feel and what I want to listen to. If I feel like jamming to some classic hard rock? It's Appetite. If I'm in the mood for modern rock? It's Chinese Democracy. Can't go wrong with either imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 IMO, CD is better than AFD, probaly because I'm 90's metal fan, never been a big fan of AFD myself. But that's just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 I like CD way better than Appetite. I like the Illusions better than CD though. Appetite is in strong competition with Spaghetti for my least favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wicked Hand Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Apetite made GNR....I love CD also though.I listen to them prolly equal amount.But when all is said n done AD > CD.I will say, that i believe CD didnt get a fair shake from some, due to politics and general bias.You cant beat the magic of apetite though.... No can or will IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockerman Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 (edited) With CD, Axl has fulfilled his promise to outdo AFD.This is the conclusion I have come to. Clearly, CD and AFD are different beasts created in different eras.But musically, CD is much better than AFD. From a musician point of view, CD blows AFD away. Anybody could cover the songs on AFD with ease. CD is not so easy to cover.The lyrics on CD are also much more matured than on AFD. Obviously, a more grown up, wiser, and mature Axl will give your more mature lyrics.Of course CD is not going to outsell AFD. But that's because of timing and a different era. When AFD was released, it was simply the right album for the generation of young people at the time.CD lyrically is not going to speak to the mass population of young people today, simply because Axl is from a different era.More fans may be able to sing along to the songs on AFD than on CD. But musically, musicians will find CD to be much more influential.For these reasons, I truly honestly believe that CD is much better than AFD.What do you think and why?Absolutely not a viable comparison..why? For one.. AFD is iconic- the simpicity is its complexity and its sound is for one..REAL. Raw hungry powerful and explosive.. CD is bloated..lost.. shiftless and contrived..it sounds like a studio experiment (which it was...) AFD was clubbed out and worked on the circut to perfection.. untill Rock in Rio no one had heard any of CDs stuff and when they did.. they had to be told it was GNR.Its a very very good attempt at a GNR album and sound by people that had nothing invested in GNR..meaning it was only their day jobs. Axls muse headed for the fucking Mars or something because for the amount of labor he claims went into- it has some serious fucked up glitches. But then again it had been rerecorded and tinkered with so much that this was truely a frankenstein of an album.UYI's are kinda the same way though. Of course its about personal tastes that prevail.. you like the sounds on it and thats cool... and probably because your of this era..as demonstrated by your desire in the other thread to have GNR "rap."BUT strip the all the effects of CD and what do you have? Some pretty good attempts at GNR songs...is what you have. Then you get something like RHIAD AND THE BEDOUINS and you have to wonder just how much the coke burned out the brains!! I love the music but the lyrics..really? CD's lyrics? THIS I LOVE..could have had CATS cast dancing around on it...but hey!!- if it gets ya wet who Am I to say shit ..its your issue.How much of the album is computer? Yes it is very good music wise..maybe the best money could buy... admirable but utimately top heavy with some good ideas that should never have been tinkered with. The key will be this..in 20 years will you have ANY of CD being played in general public?AFD is everywhere STILL and there is a reason for it. Its brilliant, relevant and one thing that CD is not and that is TIMELESS. CD is a good album but its no way no how in the same hemisphere as any of the previous efforts...even Spaghetti Incident? has its ups on CD. Edited September 3, 2011 by rockerman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaded Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 (edited) AFD has the ,in your face rcok n roll, raw, dirty and explosive spirit. While CD has too much sounds on it, and it's not meant to be heard as an mp3, They are completely different albums with different vibes. It's like comparing a radiohead album to a motorhead one. You just can't. You should listen CD to a good surround system if you really like to understand what's going on. It's even mixed that way. When i downloaded CD it sounded confusing and blurry to say the least. So you can't listen to it like that.And i must agree that musically it's far beyond Appetite. Wile i was recording some of my songs at a studio ,in the city i live in, i got in along conversation with the sound engineer about CD. He enjoys the album as much as i do and he's not a GN'R fan. In his eyes CD is the only good album GN'R has done. He's on the other side of the coin.Don't get me wrong i love Appetite and it's a special album but CD is in a different world. Edited September 3, 2011 by Loaded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packersnroses Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 (edited) Musically, I think UYI2 and CD are better than AFD. Better lyrics, better guitar solos...But for raw rock n' roll music that you don't have to put much thought into thinking about as a listener, AFD is epic. Edited September 3, 2011 by packersnroses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young_Gun Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 CD better than Appetite? CD was an amazing album but Appetite was genre defining. I love them both, I even like CDs' blend of styles more than Appetite, but Appetite is a much tighter album all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest siliconmessiah Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 (edited) I think CD is a very good album. And I wish for its sequel to arrive this year.What "ruined" things for me was the long wait and the early leaks.In 2006 we had already heard Chinese Democracy, IRS, Better, Mad-at-Nascar, SoD, TWAT, Riad and CiTR. That´s more than HALF of the album!The best three of CD in my opinion: TWAT, IRS AND PROSTITUTE. (I used to like Better, Maddy and SoD, but I have got tired of those and now usually skips them.) Edited September 3, 2011 by siliconmessiah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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