Guest NewGNRnOldGNR Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 & then a massive instrumental medley on Paradise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flayer Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 (edited) & then a massive instrumental medley on Paradise.And then a fistfight. New GNR has got numbers but I don't see Pitman or DJ throwing much of a punch. Frank will be a beast though, and Axl will...more literally be a beast. Bumblefoot'd be tough too but his injuries might hold him back. I think Matt will be the unexpected underdog from the VR team, as he can pound a fucking set of drums hard. Slash seems just a little too laid-back to get too into a fight but he could just cheat and crack a Les Paul over Axl's head. And throw Baz in there in somewhere, on his own team. Poor Baz. Edited December 11, 2011 by Flayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailaway Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Fucking Rock N' Roll Fall of Famehttp://rockhall.com/inductees/guns-n-roses/"Guns N' Roses Highlights" Slash talking and velver revolver in vma 2007... , Fucking iditosYeah,but "considering all things" what did you expect?Your quote is wrong it is "all things considered"!So go report me to the "police in charge of trite,overused phrases.Everyone bitches about Bas,and his "Dude" cliche, so "all things considered" is just as much of a cliche at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBear Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 (edited) I can't believe some of the dumb shit written in this thread. Some people actually thought they might induct some of the members post - '96! That's a fucking riot. Let's break this down:Original LineupAxlIzzyOleRobTracii- accomplished jack squat, to bring this incarnation up is just being ridiculous and it's a strawman argument if ever there was oneClassic LineupAxlSlashIzzyDuffSteve*Matt*Dizzy*- AFD- Lies- UYI- started from nothing, became the biggest band on the planet, changed the rock landscape and reigned for six years and still relevant today- played tons of gigs, including a monumental 3 year tourCurrent LineupAxlThalAshbaFortusStinsonFerrerDizzyPitman- had a huge head start thanks to the guys in group 2- CD- an awesome live band to be sure, but have not done the number of shows the classic lineup did, nor on the same scale- writing credits on CD - two of the biggest writers (Bucket, Finck) no longer in the band. What timeless material did those on the list above, not named Axl, write?It's not about how long guys have stayed in the band, it's about accomplishments. That's what a hall of fame is for. And when presented with the various lineups GN'R has had, if you struggle trying to decide which version accomplished the most then something is clearly blinding you to the reality of the situation, and you might want to reconsider your outlook on it. Edited December 11, 2011 by KBear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 (edited) Buckethead only helped write three songs. Robin, only one. Over half the songs were co-written by Paul who is also not in the band though I read somewhere he might just stick around as a songwriter. Edited December 11, 2011 by BirdCatcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBear Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 How do you define "write"? I'm pretty sure that BH and Robin came up with more solos/riffs than that. There are lots of parts to a song, even something that's relatively small can make that moment in the song worthwhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Write as music, riffs, ect. Buckethead writes more than just guitar solos. His solo albums can tell you that. I think Buckethead's writing style is similar to Chris Pitman. Most of the songs Buckethead played on were long written and recorded. He pretty much made the music a lot better.I do agree with you though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaguns1982 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 If it takes 25 years to earn a place in the RNRHOF let the new lineup EARN IT!It BELONGS to Axl, Izzy, Slash, Duff , Steven plus Matt and Dizzy!Ill be very dissapointed if the new band gets it THEY DO NOT DESERVE IT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 If it takes 25 years to earn a place in the RNRHOF let the new lineup EARN IT!It BELONGS to Axl, Izzy, Slash, Duff , Steven plus Matt and Dizzy!Ill be very dissapointed if the new band gets it THEY DO NOT DESERVE IT!Again those are not the rules. Anyone could get in if the original inductees allow it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 If it takes 25 years to earn a place in the RNRHOF let the new lineup EARN IT!It BELONGS to Axl, Izzy, Slash, Duff , Steven plus Matt and Dizzy!Ill be very dissapointed if the new band gets it THEY DO NOT DESERVE IT!Again those are not the rules. Anyone could get in if the original inductees allow it.Is there a link to the rules to read them?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaguns1982 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 If it takes 25 years to earn a place in the RNRHOF let the new lineup EARN IT!It BELONGS to Axl, Izzy, Slash, Duff , Steven plus Matt and Dizzy!Ill be very dissapointed if the new band gets it THEY DO NOT DESERVE IT!Again those are not the rules. Anyone could get in if the original inductees allow it.Well id bet my left testicle that original lineup will be there. The new guys have no business being on stage.If Ashba is up there you might as well put weiland up there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 If it takes 25 years to earn a place in the RNRHOF let the new lineup EARN IT!It BELONGS to Axl, Izzy, Slash, Duff , Steven plus Matt and Dizzy!Ill be very dissapointed if the new band gets it THEY DO NOT DESERVE IT!Again those are not the rules. Anyone could get in if the original inductees allow it.Is there a link to the rules to read them??The rules are 25 years after debut album, the band must at some point have a big enough impact to sell a ton of records and inspire future generations of artists. And a committee must pick the bands or artists and they vote. It is really up to the lineup the voters picked to include those that weren't picked, I.E. Metallica's new bass player. I think they keep changing the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaguns1982 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 (edited) The rules suck, Sure...Cliff burton was dead when Metallica got inducted.... Rob had no business being up there. Jason copped it on the chin cos he is a good dude.... Rob did a speech and i find it hard to believe he did it. If Rob did one why not let Mustaine do one too??? Edited December 11, 2011 by megaguns1982 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlfan88 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 The rules suck, Sure...Cliff burton was dead when Metallica got inducted.... Rob had no business being up there. Jason copped it on the chin cos he is a good dude.... Rob did a speech and i find it hard to believe he did it. If Rob did one why not let Mustaine do one too???Trujillo was disgusting at the ceremony. Opportunism at his best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 The rules suck, Sure...Cliff burton was dead when Metallica got inducted.... Rob had no business being up there. Jason copped it on the chin cos he is a good dude.... Rob did a speech and i find it hard to believe he did it. If Rob did one why not let Mustaine do one too???Mustaine never released an album under Metallica and Rob was on Death Magnetic which came out before they got inducted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbo Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 The rules suck, Sure...Cliff burton was dead when Metallica got inducted.... Rob had no business being up there. Jason copped it on the chin cos he is a good dude.... Rob did a speech and i find it hard to believe he did it. If Rob did one why not let Mustaine do one too???I agree that Trujillo shouldn't have been inducted, and I'm not sure how or why that was arranged, but he did perform on Death Magnetic, and it was pretty successful both commercially and among fans (with the exception of the whole loudness thing). Mustaine didn't record squat on any studio album. He's more or less the Tracii Guns of Metallica. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 The rules suck, Sure...Cliff burton was dead when Metallica got inducted.... Rob had no business being up there. Jason copped it on the chin cos he is a good dude.... Rob did a speech and i find it hard to believe he did it. If Rob did one why not let Mustaine do one too???I agree that Trujillo shouldn't have been inducted, and I'm not sure how or why that was arranged, but he did perform on Death Magnetic, and it was pretty successful both commercially and among fans (with the exception of the whole loudness thing). Mustaine didn't record squat on any studio album. He's more or less the Tracii Guns of Metallica.I am pretty sure James, Lars and Kirk chose to induct him.I am curious why Dio was chosen among Sabbath. Dio brought back Sabbath after a couple lukewarm albums and the departure of Ozzy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 The rules suck, Sure...Cliff burton was dead when Metallica got inducted.... Rob had no business being up there. Jason copped it on the chin cos he is a good dude.... Rob did a speech and i find it hard to believe he did it. If Rob did one why not let Mustaine do one too???I agree that Trujillo shouldn't have been inducted, and I'm not sure how or why that was arranged, but he did perform on Death Magnetic, and it was pretty successful both commercially and among fans (with the exception of the whole loudness thing). Mustaine didn't record squat on any studio album. He's more or less the Tracii Guns of Metallica.I have no problem with Rob being inducted with Metallica at all, he was even going to sit out and let Newsted play the night they were inducted. I think he prob. felt a little awkward about it, but the band supported the decision to induct him in. Mustaine had said it was a band decision as to why he wasn't inducted. So if this is the case, it's going to be up to Axl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 The rules suck, Sure...Cliff burton was dead when Metallica got inducted.... Rob had no business being up there. Jason copped it on the chin cos he is a good dude.... Rob did a speech and i find it hard to believe he did it. If Rob did one why not let Mustaine do one too???I agree that Trujillo shouldn't have been inducted, and I'm not sure how or why that was arranged, but he did perform on Death Magnetic, and it was pretty successful both commercially and among fans (with the exception of the whole loudness thing). Mustaine didn't record squat on any studio album. He's more or less the Tracii Guns of Metallica.I am pretty sure James, Lars and Kirk chose to induct him.I am curious why Dio was chosen among Sabbath. Dio brought back Sabbath after a couple lukewarm albums and the departure of Ozzy.The more I read about this, the more it seems like a band decision. Doug Yule wasn't inducted with Velvet Underground, and that to me is Lou Reed (and maybe John Cale's)decision, I don't think anyone who votes would've excluded him. Yule was on the self-titled, which some people like better than VU & Nico and Loaded. Why Lou had him excluded, no idea. Sharon Osbourne without a doubt is why Dio wasn't inducted with Black Sabbath. It wasn't anything personal against him, it's just that she feels Black Sabbath was and is Ozzy, Tony, Geezer, and Bill. So it really is going to be up to Axl who is going to accept the award on behalf of GNR, and who will play. I think Robbie Robertson and Paul Shaffer are going to be the first to know any of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBear Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 So they actually leave it up to each band who ultimately gets inducted? I'm not sure if that's right...I think both the band and the HOF get a say.But, leaving it up to a band to any extent is about the dumbest thing they could do. With bands there are almost always politics, and if you leave it up to band members then you allow politics to get in the way of the decision.Jesus. I'd honestly scrap the entire thing and start from scratch if this is how they've made their calls up to now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Drama Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 If it was left up to the band, then I doubt Slash would be inducted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBear Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Agreed. And a bunch of post '96 members would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laparka Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Axl's not gonna prevent Slash to receive props for AFD, Lies & UYI.He hates the guy but he knows what he has done... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knife-Chase Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I thought the lineup getting in was confirmed?If it is up to Axl and he just inducts the current band, none of the classic guys or even someone like Buckethead, that would be hilarious and the backlash would be so overwhelmingly negative. That won't happen, obviously. The Hall wouldn't allow it, "rules" be damned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Drama Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I thought the lineup getting in was confirmed?Yes, it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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