Guest NGOG Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Fernando himself Now now Bacardi, don't be unhelpful! As I said before, we've all been frustrated by sustained touring (and seemingly, absolutely nothing else). However, we've been presented with strong rumours of a genuine attempt at progressing. Instead of being snarky, let's show that we are excited by that possibility.I'm sorry, but how many times can one be expected to take something even remotely seriously before they realize that it doesn't matter what is said. Personally, I've reached the point where the only thing that will say anything is actions. Words no longer mean a thing.That's your right, and nobody can challenge your logic. I myself am choosing to sit back from the keyboard, and approach next year with a cautious sense of optimism.Each to their own. Nah man. Fernando himself has promised big things. I've already booked my flight.Again, don't be hyperbolic. A few months ago Fernando insinuated that management had big plans for 2014. Subs has since gained information which reinforces that prospect.Based on history, it's your right to adopt the position that you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdeyahlxp Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 (edited) Great news! The best years of Axl's career are still ahead of him! Edited December 8, 2013 by Rdeyahlxp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysteron Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 When I spoke to management years ago, and relayed what they said, I got personal messages from families of members who said I was not helping because what I said was taken literally by said family members because they had Asbergers, Austism, and whatever else was deal of the day back then, and I had to balance this against what was posted.So, that is the ethical side, if that is of any use. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Black Sabbath Posted December 8, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 8, 2013 When I spoke to management years ago, and relayed what they said, I got personal messages from families of members who said I was not helping because what I said was taken literally by said family members because they had Asbergers, Austism, and whatever else was deal of the day back then, and I had to balance this against what was posted.So, that is the ethical side, if that is of any use.wat 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUNNER PT Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Since the new songs aren't Silkworms, OMG or something like that, and since the setlists includes some changes like Perfect Crime, Coma, Breakdown, Don't Damn Me, Locomotive or something like that .... that's fine with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 When I spoke to management years ago, and relayed what they said, I got personal messages from families of members who said I was not helping because what I said was taken literally by said family members because they had Asbergers, Austism, and whatever else was deal of the day back then, and I had to balance this against what was posted.So, that is the ethical side, if that is of any use. watA lot of Guns fans have mental issues. Nothing new. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlaHooch Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 (edited) @MHIf you think it's cool that this band 'makes an effort', you should check out almost any other big rock band's fanclub. Get ready for the rapture!From what I've seen, Nightrain pretty much offers a fan-only website, guitar picks, keychains, onsale privileges for shows, and "exclusive video chats" that folks on here for some reason chose to interpret as "video chats where band members must tell us an album is being worked up for release".It shouldn't surprise anybody that their fan club is bare-bones in terms of features. Axl has said he abhors the idea of charging people money to meet him. Good for him, I think it's stupid too. Metallica and Kiss do that. Good for them. Not every band does, it's their choice. Not sure where in the fan club literature it offers fans the opportunity to pick setlists, dictate when they record albums or where they tour, or when they choose to release news about their endeavors.Neil Peart from Rush is notoriously not fan-friendly. 99% of Rush fans could care less because he more than delivers when he's obligated to - when he's making albums and playing shows. Of all the bands I follow, I find GN'R fans are by far the hardest to please. I'd be stoked if any band I'm into put out news like GN'R just did. Edited December 8, 2013 by MarlaHooch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HubbaBubba Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Mysteron, that's bizarre. What were you saying that they thought couldn't be taken literally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysteron Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Mysteron, that's bizarre. What were you saying that they thought couldn't be taken literally?You would not know, you were not here, noob(@newspeeps, allow this against wadfolk) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sliverjazz Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 GNR have been big in gving roadie jobs to disabled. I think that is what he meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysteron Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 When I spoke to management years ago, and relayed what they said, I got personal messages from families of members who said I was not helping because what I said was taken literally by said family members because they had Asbergers, Austism, and whatever else was deal of the day back then, and I had to balance this against what was posted.So, that is the ethical side, if that is of any use.watSorry, I am just trying to be helpful, againGive it six months and a few more exclusive posts, UK Subs, if he is the newsman, will get where I am coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Why can't this "much more" statement be elaborated on? I it just to get people to continue checking the forums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broskirose Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Why can't this "much more" statement be elaborated on? I it just to get people to continue checking the forums? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysteron Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 GNR have been big in gving roadie jobs to disabled. I think that is what he meant.Umm, okThis is so, The Office.GNR are probably what you say they are though, and if that is what I have said, then so be it. I would not use the D word thoughBizarre! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HubbaBubba Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Assume as much as you like.I'm just not sure I trust a mental health nurse who demostrably doesn't know their shit. I hope you told them all about Asberger's o wise one, that'll really confuse em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broskirose Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysteron Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 (edited) Assume as much as you like.I'm just not sure I trust a mental health nurse who demostrably doesn't know their shit. I hope you told them all about Asberger's o wise one, that'll really confuse em.Heh, I have done mental health nursing, into NLP. Fair playBut, this is a forum though for Guns fans, what are you wanting me to post?I offered a lite versionI'll PM ya, far more fun Edited December 8, 2013 by Mysteron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HubbaBubba Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Look, I'm gonna retract that last one - I don't want a slanging match.I've been around long enough to know what info you gave. Saw the adulation at htgth back in the day.You've also been honest about not doing the weezer thing anymore and not really being in the loop now, which I respect.My question was this - what do YOU think you revealed that you got a sense THEY thought would be damaging if taken literally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysteron Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Look, I'm gonna retract that last one - I don't want a slanging match.I've been around long enough to know what info you gave. Saw the adulation at htgth back in the day.You've also been honest about not doing the weezer thing anymore and not really being in the loop now, which I respect.My question was this - what do YOU think you revealed that you got a sense THEY thought would be damaging if taken literally?Hiya, I PM'd you anyway :-0The reason Guns did not talk to fans in the beginning was because they thought if they said something, and it didn't happen, the fans would be disappointed.Obviously, Merck took over eventually, we tried to tell fans what was not happening in the beginning (with all the rumours), which was fine, then we tried to be more positive and do the 'what could happen' thing, and that never worked out and this is all I was commenting on here.And, that is all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyers7503 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 fucking awesome!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HubbaBubba Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Fair enough. The asberger's thing is unbelievably left-field tho, I just can't imaging what they were getting at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysteron Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 (edited) Fair enough. The asberger's thing is unbelievably left-field tho, I just can't imaging what they were getting at.I think we are off topicWhat could be the three new songs iyo? Edited December 9, 2013 by Mysteron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highvoltage Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Hopefully 3 songs that we haven't heard in any form before. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Hopefully 3 songs that we haven't heard in any form before.That'd certainly be nice, wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarstruck Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 @MHIf you think it's cool that this band 'makes an effort', you should check out almost any other big rock band's fanclub. Get ready for the rapture!From what I've seen, Nightrain pretty much offers a fan-only website, guitar picks, keychains, onsale privileges for shows, and "exclusive video chats" that folks on here for some reason chose to interpret as "video chats where band members must tell us an album is being worked up for release".It shouldn't surprise anybody that their fan club is bare-bones in terms of features. Axl has said he abhors the idea of charging people money to meet him. Good for him, I think it's stupid too. Metallica and Kiss do that. Good for them. Not every band does, it's their choice. Not sure where in the fan club literature it offers fans the opportunity to pick setlists, dictate when they record albums or where they tour, or when they choose to release news about their endeavors.Neil Peart from Rush is notoriously not fan-friendly. 99% of Rush fans could care less because he more than delivers when he's obligated to - when he's making albums and playing shows. Of all the bands I follow, I find GN'R fans are by far the hardest to please. I'd be stoked if any band I'm into put out news like GN'R just did.Metallica don't charge for meet and greets. And their fanclub is of comparable price to GNR yet it is worlds better. GNR DO charge for meet and greets and you meet maybe 2-3 members that aren't Axl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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