gunnari Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Quote from someone who commented GnR Facebook status:The prediction was correct "Once there was a rock n' roll band rolling on the streets, time went by and It became a joke"Agreed 100%!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Most of the general public wouldn't be excited about new material. If they made a big deal about possibly playing new songs in the announcement, it could even deter casual fans, thinking they won't be playing as many hits. I don't think it could've hurt to just mention the band plans to debut a couple new songs (If that's indeed the case), but I think it was a wise PR move to not make it a focal point of the announcement.If you're set on going to a Vegas gig, head on over to the Roll Call thread and let us know!http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/205047-mygnr-forum-north-american-american-tour-2014-roll-call/You're right of course. When I go to a band that I like, but am not really a huge fan of, I also want to hear the greatest hits. Or never mind that, even when I'm a huge fan, I want to hear the greatest hits.Unfortunately, I won't be able to go to Vegas, bit far for me. I do hope they manage to come to Europe later though...I attended Kanye's concert in December and the people i was with were sort of pissed that he played so many new tracks ( i think he played all 8 of them).When I saw Sabbath last year i was so happy that they played mainly the hits with just a few new tracks (i think 3 new songs).I guess what I'm getting at is that I would love for there to be a whole bunch of new (unreleased) songs but I understand if there aren't any. I do think if that's the case then the whole setlist should be re-vamped (at least the order).So in your opinion, when did this happen? And are you sure this isn't just some new "trend" that we attached to GnR in our own mind's to justify Axl's constant touring with no new music?Bands have pretty much always toured to support their new album. And fans have always loved to hear new songs live......look how excited everybody on this forum was back a decade ago to hear The Blues, Madagascar and Chinese Democracy at the shows. I've never heard people get mad at a concert when their favorite artist plays a couple new songs. In fact, this forum is the only place where I've heard people go the opposite route and say a band doesn't need to put out new music and that concert goers don't want to hear new songs.Seems numbers would support this. It looks like in 2014 GnR will be mainly playing 3000-4000 seat venues in the US. The way to generate excitement and buzz for a band isn't by just continually, year after year, touring the classic songs. It's be releasing new music.So while I understand your guy's points, I think maybe it's just your own subconscious way to defend what Axl has been doing with GnR. Why else would almost every other band for the past 50 years operate the opposite of how GnR is doing it? You guys also make it sound like Axl would drop the "hits" and classic songs to debut a few new songs. That simply isn't the case. He isn't going to say "Well, tonight instead of Sweet Child of Mine and Welcome to the Jungle, we're gonna test two songs you have never heard before." They are always going to play the staples. Look at one of the last shows this band played - in Quebec 2013. If Axl dropped It's So Easy, The Seeker and Dizzy Reed's piano solo and replaced those three with brand new songs......you really think people would have freaked out and went home crying because the band played new material? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanudo19 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Hi guysI'm new in this forum ....So ... what are GN'R touring this year?:cupcake: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Most of the general public wouldn't be excited about new material. If they made a big deal about possibly playing new songs in the announcement, it could even deter casual fans, thinking they won't be playing as many hits. I don't think it could've hurt to just mention the band plans to debut a couple new songs (If that's indeed the case), but I think it was a wise PR move to not make it a focal point of the announcement.If you're set on going to a Vegas gig, head on over to the Roll Call thread and let us know!http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/205047-mygnr-forum-north-american-american-tour-2014-roll-call/You're right of course. When I go to a band that I like, but am not really a huge fan of, I also want to hear the greatest hits. Or never mind that, even when I'm a huge fan, I want to hear the greatest hits.Unfortunately, I won't be able to go to Vegas, bit far for me. I do hope they manage to come to Europe later though...I attended Kanye's concert in December and the people i was with were sort of pissed that he played so many new tracks ( i think he played all 8 of them).When I saw Sabbath last year i was so happy that they played mainly the hits with just a few new tracks (i think 3 new songs).I guess what I'm getting at is that I would love for there to be a whole bunch of new (unreleased) songs but I understand if there aren't any. I do think if that's the case then the whole setlist should be re-vamped (at least the order).So in your opinion, when did this happen? And are you sure this isn't just some new "trend" that we attached to GnR in our own mind's to justify Axl's constant touring with no new music?Bands have pretty much always toured to support their new album. And fans have always loved to hear new songs live......look how excited everybody on this forum was back a decade ago to hear The Blues, Madagascar and Chinese Democracy at the shows. I've never heard people get mad at a concert when their favorite artist plays a couple new songs. In fact, this forum is the only place where I've heard people go the opposite route and say a band doesn't need to put out new music and that concert goers don't want to hear new songs.Seems numbers would support this. It looks like in 2014 GnR will be mainly playing 3000-4000 seat venues in the US. The way to generate excitement and buzz for a band isn't by just continually, year after year, touring the classic songs. It's be releasing new music.So while I understand your guy's points, I think maybe it's just your own subconscious way to defend what Axl has been doing with GnR. Why else would almost every other band for the past 50 years operate the opposite of how GnR is doing it? You guys also make it sound like Axl would drop the "hits" and classic songs to debut a few new songs. That simply isn't the case. He isn't going to say "Well, tonight instead of Sweet Child of Mine and Welcome to the Jungle, we're gonna test two songs you have never heard before." They are always going to play the staples. Look at one of the last shows this band played - in Quebec 2013. If Axl dropped It's So Easy, The Seeker and Dizzy Reed's piano solo and replaced those three with brand new songs......you really think people would have freaked out and went home crying because the band played new material?You should see Jarmo's rationalisations for this on HTGTH. It's Comical Ali levels of hilarity. I really don't know how he can do that year after year.The only songs the casuals want to hear are WTTJ, SCOM, PC and November Rain. Nightrain, YCBM and one of ISE/Brownstone/RQ for the less casual fans. That's 7 songs. Room for a good 10 different songs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 The problem really isn't that there's no new music in the set. The problem is that there's no new music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Tickets purchased for June 4th, 6th and 7th.Ali 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK SUBS Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Big Announcement: Third European tour, No Trickery!then Asia, Australia, Canada and then SA again and again, and again...Looking forward the 2016 residency!I got an email from management last night saying nothing confirmed for Europe at the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Big Announcement: Third European tour, No Trickery!then Asia, Australia, Canada and then SA again and again, and again...Looking forward the 2016 residency!I got an email from management last night saying nothing confirmed for Europe at the moment.Hopefully this means they'll release a new album before they come back to Europe? Is that too optimistic of me? Fuck it, I need some optimism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) Most of the general public wouldn't be excited about new material. If they made a big deal about possibly playing new songs in the announcement, it could even deter casual fans, thinking they won't be playing as many hits. I don't think it could've hurt to just mention the band plans to debut a couple new songs (If that's indeed the case), but I think it was a wise PR move to not make it a focal point of the announcement.If you're set on going to a Vegas gig, head on over to the Roll Call thread and let us know!http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/205047-mygnr-forum-north-american-american-tour-2014-roll-call/You're right of course. When I go to a band that I like, but am not really a huge fan of, I also want to hear the greatest hits. Or never mind that, even when I'm a huge fan, I want to hear the greatest hits.Unfortunately, I won't be able to go to Vegas, bit far for me. I do hope they manage to come to Europe later though...I attended Kanye's concert in December and the people i was with were sort of pissed that he played so many new tracks ( i think he played all 8 of them).When I saw Sabbath last year i was so happy that they played mainly the hits with just a few new tracks (i think 3 new songs).I guess what I'm getting at is that I would love for there to be a whole bunch of new (unreleased) songs but I understand if there aren't any. I do think if that's the case then the whole setlist should be re-vamped (at least the order).So in your opinion, when did this happen? And are you sure this isn't just some new "trend" that we attached to GnR in our own mind's to justify Axl's constant touring with no new music?Bands have pretty much always toured to support their new album. And fans have always loved to hear new songs live......look how excited everybody on this forum was back a decade ago to hear The Blues, Madagascar and Chinese Democracy at the shows. I've never heard people get mad at a concert when their favorite artist plays a couple new songs. In fact, this forum is the only place where I've heard people go the opposite route and say a band doesn't need to put out new music and that concert goers don't want to hear new songs.Seems numbers would support this. It looks like in 2014 GnR will be mainly playing 3000-4000 seat venues in the US. The way to generate excitement and buzz for a band isn't by just continually, year after year, touring the classic songs. It's be releasing new music.So while I understand your guy's points, I think maybe it's just your own subconscious way to defend what Axl has been doing with GnR. Why else would almost every other band for the past 50 years operate the opposite of how GnR is doing it? You guys also make it sound like Axl would drop the "hits" and classic songs to debut a few new songs. That simply isn't the case. He isn't going to say "Well, tonight instead of Sweet Child of Mine and Welcome to the Jungle, we're gonna test two songs you have never heard before." They are always going to play the staples. Look at one of the last shows this band played - in Quebec 2013. If Axl dropped It's So Easy, The Seeker and Dizzy Reed's piano solo and replaced those three with brand new songs......you really think people would have freaked out and went home crying because the band played new material?I think you missed the point.____Reserved floor or GA floor ot reserved table? Hmmm.... Edited February 18, 2014 by Coma16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I went reserved floor because I wanted a more straight-ahead, direct view of the stage.Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I went reserved floor because I wanted a more straight-ahead, direct view of the stage.AliGood point. The thing I hate of GA is that if you have to take a piss break you might lose your spot. Being that I'm with my gf this is an issue to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I went reserved floor because I wanted a more straight-ahead, direct view of the stage.AliGood point. The thing I hate of GA is that if you have to take a piss break you might lose your spot. Being that I'm with my gf this is an issue to think about.That's true. But, with reserved floor seating that issue is eliminated. Another advantage of that option, IMO.Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facekicker Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Sitting at rock concerts should be banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Sitting at rock concerts should be bannedMost people still stand but if you get tired (it is a 3-hour show plus the wait beforehand) you have the option to sit for a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlrosefan4life Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Is anyone else having problems checking out on the gnr website?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Is anyone else having problems checking out on the gnr website??I had none, no.Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Sitting at rock concerts should be bannedI went to the first London 2010 show seated. Axl put on a great show, but I just couldn't get into it. Think I got seated because they were less than face value on eBay, but I won't go seated again. Put me off seeing Jane's Addiction when I had a chance in Toronto a couple of years back, couldn't believe there was no GA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Coma Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Tickets purchased for June 4th, 6th and 7th.AliPresale only for night train members or something? Are they cheaper ? Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Tickets purchased for June 4th, 6th and 7th.AliPresale only for night train members or something? Are they cheaper ?ThxYes, I used the presale option for Nightrain members.As far as being cheaper, I honestly did not do a comparison. I just got the tickets as quickly as I could Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Tickets purchased for June 4th, 6th and 7th.AliPresale only for night train members or something? Are they cheaper ?ThxI don't believe they are cheaper but just first crack at them. In all honesty I wouldn't be shocked if they were cheaper on Friday lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Coma Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Lol cool and thanks... Really wanting to make this my first trip to Vegas, hope it comes together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Can someone with a Nightrain membership tell me what is included in the VIP package? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surforia Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 hey fellow gunners - long time member, but rarely post... I, for one, am excited about the Vegas shows... Hard Rock is an awesome spot and Vegas is a great town to party in, so it passes the test of "If I have to travel to a show, will I still have fun in this city if the show gets cancelled for some reason?" Anyway, can any nightrain member tell me what the ticket price is for GA floor (standing room, not reserved)?Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Can someone with a Nightrain membership tell me what is included in the VIP package? Vegas VIP Package (Reserved Floor) One Reserved Floor Concert Ticket Meet and Greet with Select Members of Guns N' Roses Photo Opportunity with Select Members of Guns N' Roses VIP Party Room with Cash Bar Guns N' Roses Limited Edition Vegas Lithograph Guns N' Roses Limited Edition Commemorative Vegas Laminate $300hey fellow gunners - long time member, but rarely post... I, for one, am excited about the Vegas shows... Hard Rock is an awesome spot and Vegas is a great town to party in, so it passes the test of "If I have to travel to a show, will I still have fun in this city if the show gets cancelled for some reason?" Anyway, can any nightrain member tell me what the ticket price is for GA floor (standing room, not reserved)?Thanks in advance.$95.63 USD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Coma Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Can someone with a Nightrain membership tell me what is included in the VIP package? Vegas VIP Package (Reserved Floor) One Reserved Floor Concert TicketMeet and Greet with Select Members of Guns N' RosesPhoto Opportunity with Select Members of Guns N' RosesVIP Party Room with Cash BarGuns N' Roses Limited Edition Vegas LithographGuns N' Roses Limited Edition Commemorative Vegas Laminate$300hey fellow gunners - long time member, but rarely post... I, for one, am excited about the Vegas shows... Hard Rock is an awesome spot and Vegas is a great town to party in, so it passes the test of "If I have to travel to a show, will I still have fun in this city if the show gets cancelled for some reason?" Anyway, can any nightrain member tell me what the ticket price is for GA floor (standing room, not reserved)?Thanks in advance.$95.63 USDIs that the 50 dollar ticket after fees and such?Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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