Guns n' Swedes Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Seems to me like he is Axl's favourite member of the bandWhy?Judging from the behavior between them on stage, during most shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) Honestly, DJ is overall fine on GNR material. I think he does a much better job overall than Robin did (in the studio would be a different story, though)He's a nice guy, too. I've met him and he was cool enough. I even think his whole act was manageable in 09-10. Since then his clothes and antics have gotten douchier, but whatever, he's alright... defiantly doesn't deserve all the hate he gets here in terms of him as a person and his playing. His look, on the other hand, flame away although keep in mind we have endured the look of Buckethead and 2002 goth Robin, so is it really THAT bad?EDIT- For the record, I have no issues with Bucket's look but it is defiantly ridiculous for GNR Edited April 8, 2014 by ZoSoRose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 has anybody seen the attitude video thats up on nme.com? dont know if it has been discussed but its clear that ashba doesnt know the chords (or the timing of his vocals), even duff turns to him trying to figure out whats going on. looooooooooool He's a complete disaster but, I gotta ask, whom is he speaking to in the mic? Perhaps the sound guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Jesus Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Axl be like Bumble do you know any good guitar players... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay410 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Honestly, DJ is overall fine on GNR material. I think he does a much better job overall than Robin did (in the studio would be a different story, though)He's a nice guy, too. I've met him and he was cool enough. I even think his whole act was manageable in 09-10. Since then his clothes and antics have gotten douchier, but whatever, he's alright... defiantly doesn't deserve all the hate he gets here in terms of him as a person and his playing. His look, on the other hand, flame away although keep in mind we have endured the look of Buckethead and 2002 goth Robin, so is it really THAT bad?EDIT- For the record, I have no issues with Bucket's look but it is defiantly ridiculous for GNRDJ is nowhere good enough to get away with dressing like a tool.Also have you ever noticed that DJ only plays on about 75% of the songs live? I seem him just walking around pretty regularly. And when he does play anything more complicated than a 1-4-5 progression, he fucks something up. Sometimes a bum note, sometimes an entire bum song. He also has the worst bends in the history of guitar playing, which is all the more infuriating because his solos usually consist of nothing but string bends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Honestly, DJ is overall fine on GNR material. I think he does a much better job overall than Robin did (in the studio would be a different story, though)He's a nice guy, too. I've met him and he was cool enough. I even think his whole act was manageable in 09-10. Since then his clothes and antics have gotten douchier, but whatever, he's alright... defiantly doesn't deserve all the hate he gets here in terms of him as a person and his playing. His look, on the other hand, flame away although keep in mind we have endured the look of Buckethead and 2002 goth Robin, so is it really THAT bad?EDIT- For the record, I have no issues with Bucket's look but it is defiantly ridiculous for GNRI agree with your about Buckethead. But he is an amzing guitar player unlike DJ. Well respected and admire by other musicians and people in the industry. So I can turn a blind eye about his look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Yeah, I get what you are saying and I am not saying DJ's skill level is anywhere near Bucket's but he does the job well enough. He usually plays solos somewhat like the record (something we all praised him for in 09-10) and tends to play them relatively well. I like Robin a lot, but DJ is just way more consistent. There is no debating that.I guess his playing never bothered me, it is his look. There is just no way anybody can think all those "monster" or tacky shirts look cool. Oh well, though.And that Patience solo wasn't bad, its pretty much the same as he's always played it. I guess I have always liked his take on Patience but can understand if a lot of you don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) I have no issues with Bucket's look but it is defiantly ridiculous for GNRThis is the problem some of you people have. "For Guns N' Roses", I mean, what does that exactly mean? Guns N' Roses is some sort of institution with parameters between what you should or should not wear? It's superficial and irrelevant.Focus on what the guys can bring to the table. Buckethead and Robin both brought what some of you consider to be a great record or the best record of the last decade or the best record ever released. With or without the bucket in the head and with or without the garbage bag on the chest those two guys would have written the same quality of music, and would have performed the old songs the way they did. They're not established by what they wear of how they look like, unless those things change the way they play, which is not their case, unlike DJ Ashba who is more concentrated to "look cool" than to hit the right notes. Edited April 8, 2014 by Nosaj Thing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scumcat Esq. Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I hope even DJ himself doesn't think that monster t-shirts look cool, he just wears them as promo stuff. And it's annoying. They might as well replace their intro visuals with a Monster energy drink commercial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumble's Bridge Pickup Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I hope even DJ himself doesn't think that monster t-shirts look cool, he just wears them as promo stuff. And it's annoying. They might as well replace their intro visuals with a Monster energy drink commercial.Hey Monster is actually a great company, dude. I love the taste, at least. Slash endorses 'em too, to the point where he had a signature energy drink sold in some areas.I don't really care about DJ though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carburetta Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Part of the reason that solo sounded so bad was because is guitar was so high in the mix, it was just too loud and didn't fit (it maybe wasn't brilliant either but if it wasn't for the volume I doubt it would be receiving quite this amount of criticism) I do admit to being quite impressed by his solo before on the other hand (the one that was quite fast). We have no idea what Ron and Axl were smiling about either really, I don't think it's fair or that plausible that they berating him publically (it's just two looks and a smile on Axl's part, who knows?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carburetta Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 The prancing around during the intro distracting from Richard and Ron was cringeworthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I have no issues with Bucket's look but it is defiantly ridiculous for GNRThis is the problem some of you people have. "For Guns N' Roses", I mean, what does that exactly mean? Guns N' Roses is some sort of institution with parameters between what you should or should not wear? It's superficial and irrelevant.Focus on what the guys can bring to the table. Buckethead and Robin both brought what some of you consider to be a great record or the best record of the last decade or the best record ever released. With or without the bucket in the head and with or without the garbage bag on the chest those two guys would have written the same quality of music, and would have performed the old songs the way they did. They're not established by what they wear of how they look like, unless those things change the way they play, which is not their case, unlike DJ Ashba who is more concentrated to "look cool" than to hit the right notes.Yeah, I have no issues with the look. I just meant with GNR I can see why someone would be a bit shot to see someone like Bucket on stage.Glad he was there when he was and would always welcome him back, just a monster musician. I saw Bucket a few years ago and he was great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonah Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 seems like they are wondering why he is shredding at the end and taking so long. Axl was back on stage and wondering why the hell DJ is shredding, he's not Zakk Wylde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesterdays-Civil-War Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I have no issues with Bucket's look but it is defiantly ridiculous for GNRThis is the problem some of you people have. "For Guns N' Roses", I mean, what does that exactly mean? Guns N' Roses is some sort of institution with parameters between what you should or should not wear? It's superficial and irrelevant.Focus on what the guys can bring to the table. Buckethead and Robin both brought what some of you consider to be a great record or the best record of the last decade or the best record ever released. With or without the bucket in the head and with or without the garbage bag on the chest those two guys would have written the same quality of music, and would have performed the old songs the way they did. They're not established by what they wear of how they look like, unless those things change the way they play, which is not their case, unlike DJ Ashba who is more concentrated to "look cool" than to hit the right notes.So, you're saying if The Temptations found a great white singer....Every band has a distinct look. Slash was rejected from Poison, a phenomenal black guitarist was rejected from KISS, etc.Robin Finck and Buckethead made the band look like a circus act. Looks may not be everything but I find it kind of hard to look at RIRIII and say, "now, this is Guns N' Roses!" (With that, I find it kind of hard to listen to RIRIII and say, "this is Guns N' Roses," either). I think the quote from P4A in my signature sums it up the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I have no issues with Bucket's look but it is defiantly ridiculous for GNRThis is the problem some of you people have. "For Guns N' Roses", I mean, what does that exactly mean? Guns N' Roses is some sort of institution with parameters between what you should or should not wear? It's superficial and irrelevant.Focus on what the guys can bring to the table. Buckethead and Robin both brought what some of you consider to be a great record or the best record of the last decade or the best record ever released. With or without the bucket in the head and with or without the garbage bag on the chest those two guys would have written the same quality of music, and would have performed the old songs the way they did. They're not established by what they wear of how they look like, unless those things change the way they play, which is not their case, unlike DJ Ashba who is more concentrated to "look cool" than to hit the right notes.So, you're saying if The Temptations found a great white singer....Every band has a distinct look. Slash was rejected from Poison, a phenomenal black guitarist was rejected from KISS, etc.Robin Finck and Buckethead made the band look like a circus act. Looks may not be everything but I find it kind of hard to look at RIRIII and say, "now, this is Guns N' Roses!" (With that, I find it kind of hard to listen to RIRIII and say, "this is Guns N' Roses," either). I think the quote from P4A in my signature sums it up the best.Completely wrong. Every band has a distinct look? Tell me, what was the distinct look behind Guns? Just because you - being judgmental of something you should not judge - find Buckethead looks ridiculous doesn't mean he didn't fit the band he was in, because, what band exactly was he in? And whose shoes was he filling? If it wasn't Guns to you, it was a brand new band with some of the things from the band you loved, no? It's either one thing or another.To me, after Argentina, 1993, Guns N' Roses never played a gig again. I saw nuGuns as a complete different band with the frontman of the band I loved using the name of the band I loved. Never judged Buckethead for how he looked on stage, couldn't care less. I was focused on what he was playing and how he was playing it. That's what mattered to me.And when you say circus, look at the state of the band now, that's a circus and I'm not judging them by how they look on stage or what they choose to wear, unless those things are ruining their performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scumcat Esq. Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I hope even DJ himself doesn't think that monster t-shirts look cool, he just wears them as promo stuff. And it's annoying. They might as well replace their intro visuals with a Monster energy drink commercial.Hey Monster is actually a great company, dude. I love the taste, at least. Slash endorses 'em too, to the point where he had a signature energy drink sold in some areas.I don't really care about DJ though.And rum tastes even better, but I didn't say the beverage sucked. That wasn't the point I was trying to make at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Energy drinks are shit. All guys wear booze shirts or cigarette shirts but they don't get paid for it, even Axl sported a Marlboro shirt and I'm sure Slash Jack Daniels so its nothing new, it's just that this guy is nothing BUT an advertising beacon whilst believing he is a legendary guitarist yet hasn't really done that much except with Sixx:AM and enrage many of the GNR fanbase. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumble's Bridge Pickup Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 I hope even DJ himself doesn't think that monster t-shirts look cool, he just wears them as promo stuff. And it's annoying. They might as well replace their intro visuals with a Monster energy drink commercial.Hey Monster is actually a great company, dude. I love the taste, at least. Slash endorses 'em too, to the point where he had a signature energy drink sold in some areas.I don't really care about DJ though.And rum tastes even better, but I didn't say the beverage sucked. That wasn't the point I was trying to make at all.Oh, yeah. I agree that DJ is a sellout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trqster Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 DJ's got a great chemistry with Axl and has some good stage charisma. Enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russel Nash Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 DJ's got a great chemistry with Axl and has some good stage charisma. Enough for me. that is true, but he's less than Robin, so it was a step back. DJ seems very focused in his creative company, look at the other guys teaching guitar skills, doing solo albums, endorsing guitar gear. He's endorsing energy drinks, make up, clothes.. Seems like the guitar player thing is his third job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangoSkank Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 DJ's got a great chemistry with Axl and has some good stage charisma. Enough for me. He does, but I have no idea why he's the lead. I'd get it if he were a rhythm guitarist/hype man and Ron took all of the key parts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flayer Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 The DJ Ashba Disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesterdays-Civil-War Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Completely wrong. Every band has a distinct look? Tell me, what was the distinct look behind Guns? The original GN'R looked like a cohesive unit. Leather pants, leather jackets, they were pretty much in the same get-up. They looked like they were in a band. At least they did to me.Just because you - being judgmental of something you should not judge - find Buckethead looks ridiculous doesn't mean he didn't fit the band he was in, because, what band exactly was he in? And whose shoes was he filling? If it wasn't Guns to you, it was a brand new band with some of the things from the band you loved, no? It's either one thing or another.I can be judgmental about whatever the fuck I want to be judgmental about. Buckethead has a fucking bucket on his head and a mask covering his face, he looks fucking ridiculous. With that being said, I've praised his work and his ability to release new music plenty of times, I don't dislike Bucket but I can call a spade a spade. His musical style matched the direction Axl wanted to go in; I've always said I'm interested in hearing their work together, he's very talented, I concede these points. But I was never into the creepy looking band Axl tried to assemble.And when you say circus, look at the state of the band now, that's a circus and I'm not judging them by how they look on stage or what they choose to wear, unless those things are ruining their performance.Yeah, I think this current band is a circus act too. Because of how they dress, how they play, and their inability to do the slightest thing right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno P. Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Shut the f@ck up - DJ's GOD! Ande he teaches the 'old one' a lesson or two… Bfoot played the US national anthem here and sang it at the 3 minutes mark. The vocals alone are infinitely better than Ashba's awful performance. I recommend ya's to watch from the start though, he sings and plays Wasted Years right at the start of the vid. Great stuff.Dear Lord, everytime I see guys like Bucket, Ron, Rich, Slash or Robin playing something - anything, really - I look at the current GnR vids and get truly depressed. Why in the world did Axl hire this clown, and why does he allow him to be the lead guitarist instead of Rich? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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