Nosaj Thing Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 (edited) nosajthing - in my objective passionate opinion the best gnr songs come from robin input like twat better and til finck6-Your opinion is subjective, not objective. You can love Robin Finck all you want, no one would or should be able to dispute that. However, a fact is a fact and what you said it simply isn't. Fact is, Gn'R songs that had Slash's input were, are and will be 10000x more popular than anything Finck has done in his entire life. Whether you like it or not. Edited November 3, 2014 by Nosaj Thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 OP list is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFA Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 ^says the guy who posted:10. Silkworms Studio version is nothing like the live 2001 version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Strange Broue Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 (edited) ^says the guy who posted:10. Silkworms Studio version is nothing like the live 2001 versionNow this is trollceptionYou didn't have the full song (just make this clear until someone suck this)Go and visit your kid instead of trolling GNR boards Edited November 3, 2014 by Motivation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakDown2014 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 nosajthing - in my objective passionate opinion the best gnr songs come from robin input like twat better and til finck6-Your opinion is subjective, not objective. You can love Robin Finck all you want, no one would or should be able to dispute that. However, a fact is a fact and what you said it simply isn't. Fact is, Gn'R songs that had Slash's input were, are and will be 10000x more popular than anything Finck has done in his entire life. Whether you like it or not.Still, the thread title says "10 best GN'R songs", not "most popular". Unless you think it is the same, I don't see what's the point of saying that the songs with Slash's input are the ones that "people still care about" (which is, indeed, a fact) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 (edited) Still, the thread title says "10 best GN'R songs", not "most popular". Unless you think it is the same, I don't see what's the point of saying that the songs with Slash's input are the ones that "people still care about" (which is, indeed, a fact)I think you missed the part where finck6 stated that TWAT, Better and TIL are the best GN'R songs that Slash could never dream of doing.You gotta ask yourself what constitutes a "Best 10 Gn'R songs" list anyway. Edited November 3, 2014 by Nosaj Thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 You gotta ask yourself what constitutes a "Best 10 Gn'R songs" list anyway.Impact, influence, popularity. Big factors that cannot be dismissed in that criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 YCBM was attached to Terminator 2 though, shouldn't that put it higher in the list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 ^says the guy who posted:10. Silkworms Studio version is nothing like the live 2001 versionIt's still not even as good as anything on CD. Maybe it's as good as Riad.OMG on the other hand.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Based on impact, influence and popularity (chart position is the key here), and not incorporating covers, I would go,1/ SCOM (Their only US #1 and that intro which regularly tops 'top 100 riff' polls - similar with solo - scom has to be at number one).2/ Jungle3/ November Rain4/ Paradise city5/ Patience (#4 single in the US; #10 in the UK - Patience has to be there).6/ Don't Cry7/ You Could Be Mine8/ Mr Brownstone9/ Nightrain10/ EstrangedI might be inclined to switch NR, more successful commercially, and Jungle around however Jungle has that, rock anthem quality which is why I have ranked it high. Estranged I feel is, too much of a 'fan favourite' as opposed to a genuine hit or recognizable anthem - it is a bit too, esoteric. Still it would sneak it in there. And for although they were not hit singles and possessed no videos, Brownstone and Nightrain are bona fide rock anthems and stalwarts of the GN'R setlist since they first appeared in the club days. Even the most casual of hard rock fans would know them so them two would sneak in there. Of course, if covers were included KOHD and LALD would be there (they were hit singles so, 'what do you do?'). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRmello77 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 1. Estranged2. Paradise City3. Jungle4. Coma5. You Could Be Mine6. November Rain7. Rocket Queen8. Sweet Child9. Civil War10. There Was A Time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pockets Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 hey guys - I made my top ten BEST GNR SONGS based on Vocals and Guitar solosbased on that - I put TWAT - Better - TIL ahead of NR, SCOM, and Estranged because I believe Axl has better Vocals and Robin/Bucket have better Guitar solos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixes Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Based on impact, influence and popularity (chart position is the key here), and not incorporating covers, I would go,1/ SCOM (Their only US #1 and that intro which regularly tops 'top 100 riff' polls - similar with solo - scom has to be at number one).2/ Jungle3/ November Rain4/ Paradise city5/ Patience (#4 single in the US; #10 in the UK - Patience has to be there).6/ Don't Cry7/ You Could Be Mine8/ Mr Brownstone9/ Nightrain10/ EstrangedI might be inclined to switch NR, more successful commercially, and Jungle around however Jungle has that, rock anthem quality which is why I have ranked it high. Estranged I feel is, too much of a 'fan favourite' as opposed to a genuine hit or recognizable anthem - it is a bit too, esoteric. Still it would sneak it in there. And for although they were not hit singles and possessed no videos, Brownstone and Nightrain are bona fide rock anthems and stalwarts of the GN'R setlist since they first appeared in the club days. Even the most casual of hard rock fans would know them so them two would sneak in there. Of course, if covers were included KOHD and LALD would be there (they were hit singles so, 'what do you do?').swap out Brownstone for Civil War and there's your definitive list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Shit. I forgot Patience.Again: (in no particular order)1. WTTJ2. Paradise City3. SCOM4. Patience5. November Rain6. Estranged7. You Could Be Mine8. Civil War9. Don't Cry (very important historically got the band signed and chicks dig)10. Rocket QueenThink I've nailed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Based on impact, influence and popularity (chart position is the key here), and not incorporating covers, I would go,1/ SCOM (Their only US #1 and that intro which regularly tops 'top 100 riff' polls - similar with solo - scom has to be at number one).2/ Jungle3/ November Rain4/ Paradise city5/ Patience (#4 single in the US; #10 in the UK - Patience has to be there).6/ Don't Cry7/ You Could Be Mine8/ Mr Brownstone9/ Nightrain10/ EstrangedI might be inclined to switch NR, more successful commercially, and Jungle around however Jungle has that, rock anthem quality which is why I have ranked it high. Estranged I feel is, too much of a 'fan favourite' as opposed to a genuine hit or recognizable anthem - it is a bit too, esoteric. Still it would sneak it in there. And for although they were not hit singles and possessed no videos, Brownstone and Nightrain are bona fide rock anthems and stalwarts of the GN'R setlist since they first appeared in the club days. Even the most casual of hard rock fans would know them so them two would sneak in there. Of course, if covers were included KOHD and LALD would be there (they were hit singles so, 'what do you do?').swap out Brownstone for Civil War and there's your definitive listAxl didn't even bother playing civil war until 2011, yet, if he dropped Brownstone it would be noticeable. Brownstone has been a must play since day one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixes Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) Based on impact, influence and popularity (chart position is the key here), and not incorporating covers, I would go,1/ SCOM (Their only US #1 and that intro which regularly tops 'top 100 riff' polls - similar with solo - scom has to be at number one).2/ Jungle3/ November Rain4/ Paradise city5/ Patience (#4 single in the US; #10 in the UK - Patience has to be there).6/ Don't Cry7/ You Could Be Mine8/ Mr Brownstone9/ Nightrain10/ EstrangedI might be inclined to switch NR, more successful commercially, and Jungle around however Jungle has that, rock anthem quality which is why I have ranked it high. Estranged I feel is, too much of a 'fan favourite' as opposed to a genuine hit or recognizable anthem - it is a bit too, esoteric. Still it would sneak it in there. And for although they were not hit singles and possessed no videos, Brownstone and Nightrain are bona fide rock anthems and stalwarts of the GN'R setlist since they first appeared in the club days. Even the most casual of hard rock fans would know them so them two would sneak in there. Of course, if covers were included KOHD and LALD would be there (they were hit singles so, 'what do you do?').swap out Brownstone for Civil War and there's your definitive listAxl didn't even bother playing civil war until 2011, yet, if he dropped Brownstone it would be noticeable. Brownstone has been a must play since day one.I'm only going by your criteria of impact, influence and popularity and basically just listing their hit singlesCivil War is a radio staple and has been for decades. It was a co-single with You Could Be Mine.And btw, if they dropped Brownstone from the set, it would be a relief. It's long overstayed it's welcome and it is a huge, HUGE stretch to say that casual rock fans would know Brownstone and Nightrain. Maybe, possibly, Nightrain, but Brownstone? Nope.If Mr Brownstone is a bonafide rock anthem, then I have a 12 inch cock...oh wait... Edited November 4, 2014 by Sixes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert G Durant Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 hey guys - I made my top ten BEST GNR SONGS based on Vocals and Guitar solosbased on that - I put TWAT - Better - TIL ahead of NR, SCOM, and Estranged because I believe Axl has better Vocals and Robin/Bucket have better Guitar solosTrue story: his twitter handle is @RobinFinckSucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 his twitter handle is not wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pockets Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 I find it pretty scary you would search for twitter handles when they have nothing to do with guns n roses discussion. should the police be called? internet protection be hired from stalkers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert G Durant Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I find it pretty scary you would search for twitter handles when they have nothing to do with guns n roses discussion. should the police be called? internet protection be hired from stalkers?I didn't search for it you dingus, you told everybody. And Robin Finck has a lot to do with this discussion.My top ten GnR songs:1- Estranged (The song that got me into GnR)2- Welcome To The Jungle (Inexplicably not sick of it)3- Dead Horse (THIS is what I want GnR to sound like)4- Better (That super-heavy "I never wanted you to be so full of anger" section is the highlight of ChiDem for me)5- It's So Easy (Great 80's L.A. style rock)6- Breakdown (Great piano work; anytime I'm in the mood for GnR this is usually the one I play first)7- This I Love (Fuck you, I like it)8- Mr. Brownstone (Ol' "Popcorn" at his finest)9- Civil War (It's just timeless)10- Don't Damn Me (Axl's lyrics don't get much better than this) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dando Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I find it pretty scary you would search for twitter handles when they have nothing to do with guns n roses discussion. should the police be called? internet protection be hired from stalkers? I didn't search for it you dingus, you told everybody. And Robin Finck has a lot to do with this discussion.My top ten GnR songs:1- Estranged (The song that got me into GnR)2- Welcome To The Jungle (Inexplicably not sick of it)3- Dead Horse (THIS is what I want GnR to sound like)4- Better (That super-heavy "I never wanted you to be so full of anger" section is the highlight of ChiDem for me)5- It's So Easy (Great 80's L.A. style rock)6- Breakdown (Great piano work; anytime I'm in the mood for GnR this is usually the one I play first)7- This I Love (Fuck you, I like it)8- Mr. Brownstone (Ol' "Popcorn" at his finest)9- Civil War (It's just timeless)10- Don't Damn Me (Axl's lyrics don't get much better than this)I can't argue with any of that, what a top ten.Same thoughts with estranged, this I love and better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 his twitter handle is not wrong.Of course it is. There are many types of great guitar players. Not every guitar player will have everything you know...like chops for example. Robin doesn't have Slash's chops when it comes to rock guitar, and it's easy to mock Robin but in other areas he's great!Very original, with a cool tone, and fine solos and he can write a song and can play many styles and it sounds genuine. From NIN to hard rock.He shines in the studio and his work on Chinese is awesome imo. Live, sometimes he rocks and sometimes not so much, but he does seem to get lost in the music and my guess is he focuses only on the feel and not on how accurate he plays.Not making excuses...I'm a guitar player and shitty bends are a big no no. Clean playing is very important, but in the end, it's about expression of emotion and what you have to say with the guitar and Robin's melodies and tone are enough for me to not mind his shortcomings. With This I Love he proved he can do the long screaming solos, his Better solo is perfect, and his There Was A Time solo is lyrical and says so much with very few notes with great tone.Do you dislike all of his work on Chinese, or do you think there are redeeming factors here to consider? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dando Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Robin's solos on chinese are great , better and there was a time , also this I love are brilliant , he's just a better studio player than he is live. Same with a lot really 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 A big one for me is, what else noteworthy has he created? before or since? How do his riffs and leads stack up in the grand scope of rock?For me, there's nothing there that can keep him above the waterline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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