Free Bird Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 "For the record, I would not begrudge anyone from Guns their accomplishments or recognition for such. Neither I or anyone in my camp has made any requests or demands of the Hall Of Fame. It's their show not mine."Can't find it anywhere. That was just my impression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) I don't have to defend Axl. I interpret what he says and does. I don't always agree with his actions but above all, I try to understand where he's coming from first, instead of hating him for the sake of hate (as it is the cupcake fashion here). Why should I be against the vocalist of the band that I love? "what's the logic behind it?" Well you talking about hate... I don't think here is anybody who "hates" Axl.Some just don't agree with his actions. Talking critical about Axl is considered hate and that's the big problem here.Do I hate him for not showing up to the hof? Of course not. But I would loved him for doing so.Edit: I don't know why people exclude the possibility of both, recording and touring, when talking about a reunion.A reunion will most likely never happen. I know this. It's visionary. But IF they ever reunite, I'm pretty sure not just for touring. Edited April 21, 2015 by Free Bird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 The worst things about the Rock Hall is the decision on what lineup to induct, and how some bands never "make the cut" and it drives their fanbases crazy. We pretty much knew as soon as they announced which members in GNR were being inducted, that Axl wasn't going to show up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnold layne Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 That was cool and stuff like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Its funny to me that people would accept Miles Kennedy, Gilby Clark, and Matt sorum performing at GnR's induction, but not Axl's GnR.Gilby and Matt were part of an amazing era of the band. Why exclude them? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 But Slash was always talking shit about Axl during that tour. Isn't that tour the demise of the band? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 But Slash was always talking shit about Axl during that tour. Isn't that tour the demise of the band?Talking shit or talking the truth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 But Slash was always talking shit about Axl during that tour. Isn't that tour the demise of the band?Talking shit or talking the truth?I can't believe people like you defend Slash when he talked so much shit for so many years. It's been shown time and again on this forum that every word out of Slash's mouth since 1991 has been a direct attack on Axl. Axl didn't start this war, he survived it. The cancer started it and continued it. Evil, evil cancer who never should have been in the band in the first place. Only Axl haters disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majormayhem Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Its funny to me that people would accept Miles Kennedy, Gilby Clark, and Matt sorum performing at GnR's induction, but not Axl's GnR.Gilby and Matt were part of an amazing era of the band. Why exclude them?Gilby was a hired gun. Matt plays on uyi but didn't write anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 But Slash was always talking shit about Axl during that tour. Isn't that tour the demise of the band?Talking shit or talking the truth?Depends who you ask?But the amazing era of Matt and Gilby was when two members had already gone and Slash and Duff weren't really enjoying Axl walking off every other show or showing up late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyrobot Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I don't have to defend Axl. I interpret what he says and does. I don't always agree with his actions but above all, I try to understand where he's coming from first, instead of hating him for the sake of hate (as it is the cupcake fashion here). Why should I be against the vocalist of the band that I love? "what's the logic behind it?" Well you talking about hate... I don't think here is anybody who "hates" Axl.Some just don't agree with his actions. Talking critical about Axl is considered hate and that's the big problem here.Do I hate him for not showing up to the hof? Of course not.But I would loved him for doing so.Edit: I don't know why people exclude the possibility of both, recording and touring, when talking about a reunion.A reunion will most likely never happen. I know this. It's visionary. But IF they ever reunite, I'm pretty sure not just for touring.I talk about hate because that's what I see everyday here: hatred.There's a huge difference between being critical of someone and being just an asshole. Very few members in this forum make their point criticizing Axl and his actions using a tone that is not harsh or mocking.Most comments are mockery, jokes, judgements and in general negative in a sense that doesn't feel right. So I'm sorry, but I believe such horrible feelings can only come from hate. Inner frustration related to things that are not related to GN'R or Axl. Probably some sort of mental disorder.As for the reunion thing.... my logic is that if they couldn't make an album together in 1995 and seeing how long Axl takes to make his music, making a record now sounds visionary. Of course, people change and people learn their lessons... if Axl somehow is willing to submit himself to the way Slash and the rest of the guys create songs, maybe something comes out, but I find it hard..... Slash said the vibe back then was really bad... how is it now? I dont know, but if Axl still dislikes Slash I really doubt they can make a record together.Slash, Duff, Matt could have collected the award then played. Then Axl could have gone up with Izzy to accept their awards and played with new Guns. Doesn't seem impossible.But the royal HoF wanted a forced REUNION. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkuk04 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I always found it slightly strange there was no Izzy & Axl at the HoF, I mean those guys wrote the majority of the Guns back catalogue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Too bad it didn't work out, as otherwise we might have had 2 or 3 good albums from Gn'R by now, and maybe some hits, not to mention music videos. But hey, there you go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Why people think that if GNR reunited in the HoF it would be EXCLUSIVELY to the HOF and its audience? Of course few people would witness it live. But it still could be watched and enjoyed by, well, the entire world on TV. Wouldn't that also be kinda cool? Or Axl shouldn't "play their game" as well? Aren't Axl fans and Axl himself just taking everything too seriously then?"They wanted to trick him" - I'm sorry but reading stuff like that just makes me think Axl fans are a bunch of 15 years old, beliebers-like girls.People act like a ten minute performance would have killed attendance figures for a reunion tour three years later. The lack of logic at times is flabbergasting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I'm just glad we were saved from seeing how outraged fans would have been if Axl had joined Guns on stage. It would have been a betrayal, such a slap in the face to the real fans. No one would have ever bought another copy of Chinese Democracy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkuk04 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I would have loved to be a fly on the wall in the studio for example if Zakk & Slash were jamming on Nightrain and in Buckethead walks and completely owns the pair of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Except Slash would always be able to say that, you know, it's his solo they're all playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I don't have to defend Axl. I interpret what he says and does. I don't always agree with his actions but above all, I try to understand where he's coming from first, instead of hating him for the sake of hate (as it is the cupcake fashion here). Why should I be against the vocalist of the band that I love? "what's the logic behind it?" Well you talking about hate... I don't think here is anybody who "hates" Axl.Some just don't agree with his actions. Talking critical about Axl is considered hate and that's the big problem here.Do I hate him for not showing up to the hof? Of course not.But I would loved him for doing so.Edit: I don't know why people exclude the possibility of both, recording and touring, when talking about a reunion.A reunion will most likely never happen. I know this. It's visionary. But IF they ever reunite, I'm pretty sure not just for touring. I talk about hate because that's what I see everyday here: hatred.There's a huge difference between being critical of someone and being just an asshole. Very few members in this forum make their point criticizing Axl and his actions using a tone that is not harsh or mocking.Most comments are mockery, jokes, judgements and in general negative in a sense that doesn't feel right. So I'm sorry, but I believe such horrible feelings can only come from hate. Inner frustration related to things that are not related to GN'R or Axl. Probably some sort of mental disorder.As for the reunion thing.... my logic is that if they couldn't make an album together in 1995 and seeing how long Axl takes to make his music, making a record now sounds visionary. Of course, people change and people learn their lessons... if Axl somehow is willing to submit himself to the way Slash and the rest of the guys create songs, maybe something comes out, but I find it hard..... Slash said the vibe back then was really bad... how is it now? I dont know, but if Axl still dislikes Slash I really doubt they can make a record together.Slash, Duff, Matt could have collected the award then played. Then Axl could have gone up with Izzy to accept their awards and played with new Guns. Doesn't seem impossible. But the royal HoF wanted a forced REUNION.If they disliking each other it's impossible for them to tour, either.Of course it is visionary but if there will ever be a reunion these two guys have to clear lots of shit up, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 But Slash was always talking shit about Axl during that tour. Isn't that tour the demise of the band?Talking shit or talking the truth?I can't believe people like you defend Slash when he talked so much shit for so many years. It's been shown time and again on this forum that every word out of Slash's mouth since 1991 has been a direct attack on Axl. Axl didn't start this war, he survived it. The cancer started it and continued it. Evil, evil cancer who never should have been in the band in the first place. Only Axl haters disagree.Daimn you're right. I'm a fool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkuk04 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Except Slash would always be able to say that, you know, it's his solo they're all playing. I'm just saying Buckethead plays it better live, even though Slash made the original. Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majormayhem Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I'm just glad we were saved from seeing how outraged fans would have been if Axl had joined Guns on stage. It would have been a betrayal, such a slap in the face to the real fans. No one would have ever bought another copy of Chinese Democracy.It would have flushed everything Axl had been fighting for down the toilet. I can't believe anyone who had been paying attention could have actually entertained the idea that they might reunite. I always found it slightly strange there was no Izzy & Axl at the HoF, I mean those guys wrote the majority of the Guns back catalogue. Well, who needs them. We got Matt and Gilby!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkuk04 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I'm just glad we were saved from seeing how outraged fans would have been if Axl had joined Guns on stage. It would have been a betrayal, such a slap in the face to the real fans. No one would have ever bought another copy of Chinese Democracy.It would have flushed everything Axl had been fighting for down the toilet. I can't believe anyone who had been paying attention could have actually entertained the idea that they might reunite.I always found it slightly strange there was no Izzy & Axl at the HoF, I mean those guys wrote the majority of the Guns back catalogue. Well, who needs them. We got Matt and Gilby!!!! Two original members for two hired hands, cool! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I now believe why Axl is a recluse: his fans are fuckin crazy. If I was Axl, I would lock myself away also. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I don't have to defend Axl. I interpret what he says and does. I don't always agree with his actions but above all, I try to understand where he's coming from first, instead of hating him for the sake of hate (as it is the cupcake fashion here). Why should I be against the vocalist of the band that I love? "what's the logic behind it?" Well you talking about hate... I don't think here is anybody who "hates" Axl.Some just don't agree with his actions. Talking critical about Axl is considered hate and that's the big problem here.Do I hate him for not showing up to the hof? Of course not.But I would loved him for doing so.Edit: I don't know why people exclude the possibility of both, recording and touring, when talking about a reunion.A reunion will most likely never happen. I know this. It's visionary. But IF they ever reunite, I'm pretty sure not just for touring. I talk about hate because that's what I see everyday here: hatred.There's a huge difference between being critical of someone and being just an asshole. Very few members in this forum make their point criticizing Axl and his actions using a tone that is not harsh or mocking.Most comments are mockery, jokes, judgements and in general negative in a sense that doesn't feel right. So I'm sorry, but I believe such horrible feelings can only come from hate. Inner frustration related to things that are not related to GN'R or Axl. Probably some sort of mental disorder.As for the reunion thing.... my logic is that if they couldn't make an album together in 1995 and seeing how long Axl takes to make his music, making a record now sounds visionary. Of course, people change and people learn their lessons... if Axl somehow is willing to submit himself to the way Slash and the rest of the guys create songs, maybe something comes out, but I find it hard..... Slash said the vibe back then was really bad... how is it now? I dont know, but if Axl still dislikes Slash I really doubt they can make a record together.Slash, Duff, Matt could have collected the award then played. Then Axl could have gone up with Izzy to accept their awards and played with new Guns. Doesn't seem impossible. But the royal HoF wanted a forced REUNION.That's what I started off saying, and no one in the band like Slash or Duff stepped up to say that wont happen but let's cut Axl in on this he wants to play. There's never been much sympathy for the Axl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I'm just glad we were saved from seeing how outraged fans would have been if Axl had joined Guns on stage. It would have been a betrayal, such a slap in the face to the real fans. No one would have ever bought another copy of Chinese Democracy.It would have flushed everything Axl had been fighting for down the toilet. I can't believe anyone who had been paying attention could have actually entertained the idea that they might reunite.No one in their right mind really thought they would reunite at the HOF. Everyone knows Axl is way too much of a bitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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