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Just out of curiosity, and I'm sure its been asked before, but who would you have had sing for the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame gig? We know from the beginning Axl's not gonna show up, but let's say you have that last week when he officially says he's not coming. Who do you get? The rest of the GNR guys were obviously gonna play, and having Axl be the reason they don't would have been ridiculous. It was their honor too, and just cause Axl couldn't show up to make it great doesn't mean he has to ruin the good time Slash, Duff, Matt and Gilby have playing together.

So who do you get? Sebastian (who probably wouldn't do it anyway cause of his "close" ties to Axl)? See thats why I give Myles so much credit. I get that you don't have to like him and I get that people think he's generic. But he didn't even want to do it, basically took himself out of the equation, and at the last minute stepped in because the other guys didn't want Axl ruining their ability to play. To me, thats why even if he sounded like shit (which he didn't) I give him so much respect for doing it. He doesn't want that position, but he's doing it so those guys can play together, and in effect so people like myself and others that want to see real GNR (even if its not with Axl) the chance to see these guys kick ass.

Honestly, for that reason, I'm surprised Myles isn't heralded for stepping in. But I'm still open to who else you get to sing.

Myles is not to blame for any of this BS. Just like Ashba, Fortus, Stinson and the rest should not be subjected and singled out by idiots like the Twisted Sisters singer. None of them are to blame or have anything to do with the feud among original GNR.

That said, Myles sucks on his own. He's just not good for GN'R and I don't know how he does on his own material but he's definitely an artist I'm not drawn to. I guess he was the only option at hand to fill the singer spot. Sebastian could have been an option but too much emotional trouble for him... and really, there aren't many people who can sing GN'R material and do justice to it. It is that hard...

Now, in my opinion and solely it is my opinion, that GN'R induction should have never happened until the band had fixed their issues. I don't know who or how the HoF functions but I don't understand the rush or the need or the idea behind inducting this band.

Probably some ego trip about thinking they would be the ones who can reunite GN'R (pretty much like the rest of the self-proclaimed Saviors we've heard this year). Their own greed ruined everything. I don't consider that induction a real one, not without Axl.

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Outside of this forum he was.

This is true, and I was surprised to be honest. I thought non-lunatic fans outside the forums would just trash Myles, but the general consensus was that it was a great performance. I think Gn'R fans were more upset that crybaby bitter Axl never showed up.

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Honestly, for that reason, I'm surprised Myles isn't heralded for stepping in. But I'm still open to who else you get to sing.

You're looking for mature objectivity...you won't find that among some of the posters on this thread.

Not a fan of the man but I agree with you.

Yeah, Myles does not sound good on Gn'R songs, but he did a great job. Axl and his utter shit voice would have embarrassed the whole thing. Glad he didn't show up.

Myles sounds pretty good on some GNR tunes, IMO

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I don't understand the stance that the RNR HOF were going to gain anything if GNR played a few songs together. Greed? How so?

The only one that profited off of the GNR HOF thing was Axl himself. During the tour that year, television commercials promoting the tour referred to the band as ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAMERS Guns N' Roses. If Axl had such a hard time with the whole thing, why promote himself as a RNR Hall of Famer? Why....because he profited off of it.

INTEGRITY

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Honestly, for that reason, I'm surprised Myles isn't heralded for stepping in. But I'm still open to who else you get to sing.

You're looking for mature objectivity...you won't find that among some of the posters on this thread.

Not a fan of the man but I agree with you.

Yeah, Myles does not sound good on Gn'R songs, but he did a great job. Axl and his utter shit voice would have embarrassed the whole thing. Glad he didn't show up.

Myles sounds pretty good on some GNR tunes, IMO

I think the problem is that I, as many other Gn'R fans, indirectly compare Myles voice to Axl's. Myles is a great singer but he will never be able to sound like Axl, and I know he doesn't have to, but one of the reasons I became a Gn'R fan was, Ax'ls voice. When Axl didn't sound completely awful, his voice gave me goosebumps. That said, in comparison to recent performances, I'd take Myles voice no questions asked.

Myles sounds good on Sweet Child O' Mine. The rest are just decent performances.

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I don't understand the stance that the RNR HOF were going to gain anything if GNR played a few songs together. Greed? How so?

The only one that profited off of he GNR HOF thing was Axl himself. During the tour that year, television commercials promoting the tour referred to the band as ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAMERS Guns N' Roses. If Axl had such a hard time with the whole thing, why promote himself as a RNR Hall of Famer? Why....because he profited off of it.

INTEGRITY

This.

Some lunatics have yet to explain how the HOF would make millions by "tricking" Axl into being part of the ceremony. I guess they are evil just because Axl says so...

Oh, and Myles did a good job on the HOF performance. It was a great Guns n' Roses moment and he must be proud of being part of it. Fans of good music loved it.

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Honestly, for that reason, I'm surprised Myles isn't heralded for stepping in. But I'm still open to who else you get to sing.

You're looking for mature objectivity...you won't find that among some of the posters on this thread.

Not a fan of the man but I agree with you.

Yeah, Myles does not sound good on Gn'R songs, but he did a great job. Axl and his utter shit voice would have embarrassed the whole thing. Glad he didn't show up.
Myles sounds pretty good on some GNR tunes, IMO

I think the problem is that I, as many other Gn'R fans, indirectly compare Myles voice to Axl's. Myles is a great singer but he will never be able to sound like Axl, and I know he doesn't have to, but one of the reasons I became a Gn'R fan was, Ax'ls voice. When Axl didn't sound completely awful, his voice gave me goosebumps. That said, in comparison to recent performances, I'd take Myles voice no questions asked.

Myles sounds good on Sweet Child O' Mine. The rest are just decent performances.

Indeed, I didn't want to compare him to Axl.

Nobody out there is or was nowhere near as good as the younger Axl in singing and performing GNR tunes.

But I like Myles singing SCOM, RQ and DTJ. He does a good job live.

I go to the shows for Slash in the first place but it's not that I can't enjoy Myles.

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Honestly, for that reason, I'm surprised Myles isn't heralded for stepping in. But I'm still open to who else you get to sing.

You're looking for mature objectivity...you won't find that among some of the posters on this thread.

Not a fan of the man but I agree with you.

I think he did a solid job, can't actually remember that performance to be honest. Like I said his only fault is not being Axl, tough gig. Anyone stepping in there I would give a break to. Weilland also had some GNR experience.

I the HOF could have had Axl there with his band just get him to do Jungle, Heavens Door and Nov Rain.

Having two members stay away out of stubbornness is silly. Could have been an epic jam. The closer you get those guys the more chance of it happening.

Axl could have just played and continued touring with current line up.

But with Axl turning up has potential disaster. It could have got ugly. We don't know how bad it is.

We've seen it happen before.

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Myles pointing and hand gesturing everything makes me sick...not to mention his voice. I'm just not a fan of his stage presence, vocals, or his music...but I am sure he's a nice humble fellow! He stepped in to create a mediocre performance for some guys who it meant alot to. Mainly Slash who enjoys and respects the history of Guns N Roses, he loves talking about it and understands how important that time in his life was. So we had 2 members that quit and 3 that were fired take the stage and accept the honor...All things considered, the venue, the cast, and the show itself just made for one of the most memorable moments in GNR history.

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Myles pointing and hand gesturing everything makes me sick...not to mention his voice. I'm just not a fan of his stage presence, vocals, or his music...but I am sure he's a nice humble fellow! He stepped in to create a mediocre performance for some guys who it meant alot to. Mainly Slash who enjoys and respects the history of Guns N Roses, he loves talking about it and understands how important that time in his life was. So we had 2 members that quit and 3 that were fired take the stage and accept the honor...All things considered, the venue, the cast, and the show itself just made for one of the most memorable moments in GNR history.

The only memorable part of that lame show to me was Billy Joe standing up for Axl when the ridiculous immature audience in attendance started booing him.

I fucking cried. Billy Joe is everything.

The rest was pathetic and should be buried in hell.

(Sorum embarrassing Adler :facepalm: )

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I'm happily and incredibly surprised to see such down to earth and honest feedback. I'm glad at least everyone gets the moment that it was. Listen, of course I want Axl to be there, but if he's not gonna show up, this was the most publicized and official GNR reunion to really happen yet. It was those guys celebrating that, and for them to not have been able to play there would have been silly. They deserve to and they sound great doing it. They'd sound even better with Axl, but he can't be there I want someone to step in to get the job done. IMO this is probably top 3 if not #1 of best performances to happen from original GNR since GNR broke up. Just a very positive celebration, that brought a lot of excitement to fans that have waited so long for vindication.

As for the Hall forcing the reunion: yes, they did and I disagree with many saying they had nothing to gain. Maybe nothing financially, but its backhanded and its for their own benefit. They wanted to be the ones that said "LOOK, we got GNR back together! Thats how good and important we are!" 100%, no questions asked, that was their motive. And Axl was right in the way to be angry, which was obvious. Its just unfortunate that his anger was justified in this scenario. Giving in and showing up wouldn't have only been bad for his current lineup, but it would have made the Hall look good, and more reputable, which if you follow them they are the exact opposite of. It was a double edge sword, cause its the perfect opportunity for a reunion (honor and recognition wise) but it sucks that it has to be for what has become such a shitty institution. They like reunions so they can add them to their list. They reunited Cream, they reunited Talking Heads for the only performance they've ever gotten back together for. Original Heart. The reunions give them validation, which is nice for fans, but sad cause they are a shitty group of individuals that are only doing it to make themselves feel powerful.

I said it for years: its sad that they already got inducted, because I long said the Hall Of Fame induction could be the one thing to bring them back together. Induct them when it really seems there's a chance, not just the first time you can. You're rushing it and we all know GNR is a delicate process. For what it is, its such an amicable and joyous occasion that many people put their differences aside for. I just always wanted them to get inducted when it truly looked like they'd moved past it. I thought if they were in a good place (and by that I mean Axl being a bit more open to old GNR) this would have been the thing to seal the deal. Now we'll never know and I don't know when an opportunity that big comes again. And sadly, had they done it now after Duff toured with them I think thats just one more step that, had they waited, could have helped things.

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I'm happily and incredibly surprised to see such down to earth and honest feedback. I'm glad at least everyone gets the moment that it was. Listen, of course I want Axl to be there, but if he's not gonna show up, this was the most publicized and official GNR reunion to really happen yet. It was those guys celebrating that, and for them to not have been able to play there would have been silly. They deserve to and they sound great doing it. They'd sound even better with Axl, but he can't be there I want someone to step in to get the job done. IMO this is probably top 3 if not #1 of best performances to happen from original GNR since GNR broke up. Just a very positive celebration, that brought a lot of excitement to fans that have waited so long for vindication.

As for the Hall forcing the reunion: yes, they did and I disagree with many saying they had nothing to gain. Maybe nothing financially, but its backhanded and its for their own benefit. They wanted to be the ones that said "LOOK, we got GNR back together! Thats how good and important we are!" 100%, no questions asked, that was their motive. And Axl was right in the way to be angry, which was obvious. Its just unfortunate that his anger was justified in this scenario. Giving in and showing up wouldn't have only been bad for his current lineup, but it would have made the Hall look good, and more reputable, which if you follow them they are the exact opposite of. It was a double edge sword, cause its the perfect opportunity for a reunion (honor and recognition wise) but it sucks that it has to be for what has become such a shitty institution. They like reunions so they can add them to their list. They reunited Cream, they reunited Talking Heads for the only performance they've ever gotten back together for. Original Heart. The reunions give them validation, which is nice for fans, but sad cause they are a shitty group of individuals that are only doing it to make themselves feel powerful.

I said it for years: its sad that they already got inducted, because I long said the Hall Of Fame induction could be the one thing to bring them back together. Induct them when it really seems there's a chance, not just the first time you can. You're rushing it and we all know GNR is a delicate process. For what it is, its such an amicable and joyous occasion that many people put their differences aside for. I just always wanted them to get inducted when it truly looked like they'd moved past it. I thought if they were in a good place (and by that I mean Axl being a bit more open to old GNR) this would have been the thing to seal the deal. Now we'll never know and I don't know when an opportunity that big comes again. And sadly, had they done it now after Duff toured with them I think thats just one more step that, had they waited, could have helped things.

It's such a relief when you realize there is hope in this place and there are brilliant minds like Gunsfanoldie who make debate interesting, motivating and alluring. No bias, no hateful comments. Everything written from an honest point of view, not some sick small-minded agenda.

Congratulations on such an intelligent brilliant comment.

Too bad I don't see you posting that often!

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Well I certainly appreciate that. And I actually think I'm one of the stupider posters amongst a sea of really knowledgable and intelligent fans here :lol: ! The reason I don't post much is I can't keep getting sucked back into the endless discussions that occur with GNR. You read one thing about Chinese Democracy, and its a wormhole and soon you're trying to rationalize something that was over and done with 10 years ago. I try to stay away from that.

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Well I certainly appreciate that. And I actually think I'm one of the stupider posters amongst a sea of really knowledgable and intelligent fans here :lol: ! The reason I don't post much is I can't keep getting sucked back into the endless discussions that occur with GNR. You read one thing about Chinese Democracy, and its a wormhole and soon you're trying to rationalize something that was over and done with 10 years ago. I try to stay away from that.

Your reason for not posting that much is enough to make you smart. You stay healthy in your mind and soul. It is wise to do that.

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I'm happily and incredibly surprised to see such down to earth and honest feedback. I'm glad at least everyone gets the moment that it was. Listen, of course I want Axl to be there, but if he's not gonna show up, this was the most publicized and official GNR reunion to really happen yet. It was those guys celebrating that, and for them to not have been able to play there would have been silly. They deserve to and they sound great doing it. They'd sound even better with Axl, but he can't be there I want someone to step in to get the job done. IMO this is probably top 3 if not #1 of best performances to happen from original GNR since GNR broke up. Just a very positive celebration, that brought a lot of excitement to fans that have waited so long for vindication.

As for the Hall forcing the reunion: yes, they did and I disagree with many saying they had nothing to gain. Maybe nothing financially, but its backhanded and its for their own benefit. They wanted to be the ones that said "LOOK, we got GNR back together! Thats how good and important we are!" 100%, no questions asked, that was their motive. And Axl was right in the way to be angry, which was obvious. Its just unfortunate that his anger was justified in this scenario. Giving in and showing up wouldn't have only been bad for his current lineup, but it would have made the Hall look good, and more reputable, which if you follow them they are the exact opposite of. It was a double edge sword, cause its the perfect opportunity for a reunion (honor and recognition wise) but it sucks that it has to be for what has become such a shitty institution. They like reunions so they can add them to their list. They reunited Cream, they reunited Talking Heads for the only performance they've ever gotten back together for. Original Heart. The reunions give them validation, which is nice for fans, but sad cause they are a shitty group of individuals that are only doing it to make themselves feel powerful.

I said it for years: its sad that they already got inducted, because I long said the Hall Of Fame induction could be the one thing to bring them back together. Induct them when it really seems there's a chance, not just the first time you can. You're rushing it and we all know GNR is a delicate process. For what it is, its such an amicable and joyous occasion that many people put their differences aside for. I just always wanted them to get inducted when it truly looked like they'd moved past it. I thought if they were in a good place (and by that I mean Axl being a bit more open to old GNR) this would have been the thing to seal the deal. Now we'll never know and I don't know when an opportunity that big comes again. And sadly, had they done it now after Duff toured with them I think thats just one more step that, had they waited, could have helped things.

It's such a relief when you realize there is hope in this place and there are brilliant minds like Gunsfanoldie who make debate interesting, motivating and alluring. No bias, no hateful comments. Everything written from an honest point of view, not some sick small-minded agenda.

Congratulations on such an intelligent brilliant comment.

Too bad I don't see you posting that often!

Is that really necessary? You may not agree with everyone that posts on here (You may not even agree with how they post, as you pointed out in this post) but that hardly makes them "small-minded".

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I'm happily and incredibly surprised to see such down to earth and honest feedback. I'm glad at least everyone gets the moment that it was. Listen, of course I want Axl to be there, but if he's not gonna show up, this was the most publicized and official GNR reunion to really happen yet. It was those guys celebrating that, and for them to not have been able to play there would have been silly. They deserve to and they sound great doing it. They'd sound even better with Axl, but he can't be there I want someone to step in to get the job done. IMO this is probably top 3 if not #1 of best performances to happen from original GNR since GNR broke up. Just a very positive celebration, that brought a lot of excitement to fans that have waited so long for vindication.

As for the Hall forcing the reunion: yes, they did and I disagree with many saying they had nothing to gain. Maybe nothing financially, but its backhanded and its for their own benefit. They wanted to be the ones that said "LOOK, we got GNR back together! Thats how good and important we are!" 100%, no questions asked, that was their motive. And Axl was right in the way to be angry, which was obvious. Its just unfortunate that his anger was justified in this scenario. Giving in and showing up wouldn't have only been bad for his current lineup, but it would have made the Hall look good, and more reputable, which if you follow them they are the exact opposite of. It was a double edge sword, cause its the perfect opportunity for a reunion (honor and recognition wise) but it sucks that it has to be for what has become such a shitty institution. They like reunions so they can add them to their list. They reunited Cream, they reunited Talking Heads for the only performance they've ever gotten back together for. Original Heart. The reunions give them validation, which is nice for fans, but sad cause they are a shitty group of individuals that are only doing it to make themselves feel powerful.

I said it for years: its sad that they already got inducted, because I long said the Hall Of Fame induction could be the one thing to bring them back together. Induct them when it really seems there's a chance, not just the first time you can. You're rushing it and we all know GNR is a delicate process. For what it is, its such an amicable and joyous occasion that many people put their differences aside for. I just always wanted them to get inducted when it truly looked like they'd moved past it. I thought if they were in a good place (and by that I mean Axl being a bit more open to old GNR) this would have been the thing to seal the deal. Now we'll never know and I don't know when an opportunity that big comes again. And sadly, had they done it now after Duff toured with them I think thats just one more step that, had they waited, could have helped things.

It's such a relief when you realize there is hope in this place and there are brilliant minds like Gunsfanoldie who make debate interesting, motivating and alluring. No bias, no hateful comments. Everything written from an honest point of view, not some sick small-minded agenda.

Congratulations on such an intelligent brilliant comment.

Too bad I don't see you posting that often!

Please feel free to complement other posters when you agree with them, but really not necessary to refer to others as small minded or sick simply because they disagree with you.

99 percent of our members simply have an opinion. Few, if any, have an "agenda."

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Just watched it again. It's definitely the best performance of SCOM and PC I've heard of the last two decades. In my opinion if course.

Myles is Myles but Duff Slash and Steven made it special. I'm glad we had the opportunity to see them again. I'm sad Axl and Izzy wasn't there. Nothing more to say...

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Myles pointing and hand gesturing everything makes me sick...not to mention his voice.

That is called "fist-bumping," and I agree, it's annoying. When I saw him live, he kept running around the stage, I was like "who is this guy?" :lol:

So we had 2 members that quit and 3 that were fired take the stage and accept the honor...All things considered, the venue, the cast, and the show itself just made for one of the most memorable moments in GNR history.

You can't change the history of the band. But as Duff said, it was about the music that band created. Aside from Gilby who was not inducted--just invited to perform, each and every member who accepted the honor earned the right to be there. Izzy did not attend but accepted the honor. Dizzy did not attend and made no comment whether it was an honor to him or not. Axl did not attend and refused the honor and induction. :shrugs:

You now know who you should point your finger at.

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It's strange that if you suggest Axl playing with his band people start shouting. Considering the disasters HOF had with other bands. What if Axl plays Patience and 14 Years with Izzy on acoustics. It would have added to the show.

UYI was a big part of the bands success but it was under represented. If it was about the music the HOF would have let Axl play Nov Rain with any line up.

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Myles pointing and hand gesturing everything makes me sick...not to mention his voice. I'm just not a fan of his stage presence, vocals, or his music...but I am sure he's a nice humble fellow! He stepped in to create a mediocre performance for some guys who it meant alot to. Mainly Slash who enjoys and respects the history of Guns N Roses, he loves talking about it and understands how important that time in his life was. So we had 2 members that quit and 3 that were fired take the stage and accept the honor...All things considered, the venue, the cast, and the show itself just made for one of the most memorable moments in GNR history.

The only memorable part of that lame show to me was Billy Joe standing up for Axl when the ridiculous immature audience in attendance started booing him.

I fucking cried. Billy Joe is everything.

The rest was pathetic and should be buried in hell.

(Sorum embarrassing Adler :facepalm: )

You need to get out of your trailer more often...you take the travails of these millionaire rock stars far too seriously.

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Myles pointing and hand gesturing everything makes me sick...not to mention his voice. I'm just not a fan of his stage presence, vocals, or his music...but I am sure he's a nice humble fellow! He stepped in to create a mediocre performance for some guys who it meant alot to. Mainly Slash who enjoys and respects the history of Guns N Roses, he loves talking about it and understands how important that time in his life was. So we had 2 members that quit and 3 that were fired take the stage and accept the honor...All things considered, the venue, the cast, and the show itself just made for one of the most memorable moments in GNR history.

The only memorable part of that lame show to me was Billy Joe standing up for Axl when the ridiculous immature audience in attendance started booing him.

I fucking cried. Billy Joe is everything.

The rest was pathetic and should be buried in hell.

(Sorum embarrassing Adler :facepalm: )

You need to get out of your trailer more often...you take the travails of these millionaire rock stars far too seriously.

You're not a real fan if the HOF performance didn't make you cry hot, burning tears.

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It's such a relief when you realize there is hope in this place and there are brilliant minds like Gunsfanoldie who make debate interesting, motivating and alluring. No bias, no hateful comments. Everything written from an honest point of view, not some sick small-minded agenda.

Congratulations on such an intelligent brilliant comment.

Too bad I don't see you posting that often!

Please feel free to complement other posters when you agree with them, but really not necessary to refer to others as small minded or sick simply because they disagree with you.

99 percent of our members simply have an opinion. Few, if any, have an "agenda."

P5 - Downzy tag team!

People can disagree all they want.

Disagreements are expressed in a variety of actions, though.

Some people here choose to express themselves like they were in a presidential debate. Others, as if they were in a ring with Mayweather.

People who have a different opinion are not an issue to me. It's the way they choose to express themselves.

The only memorable part of that lame show to me was Billy Joe standing up for Axl when the ridiculous immature audience in attendance started booing him.

I fucking cried. Billy Joe is everything.

The rest was pathetic and should be buried in hell.

(Sorum embarrassing Adler :facepalm: )

You need to get out of your trailer more often...you take the travails of these millionaire rock stars far too seriously.

I think you need to disappear from my screen so ignore button will do. Please don't quote me or mention me or talk to me anymore. I don't interact with venomous negative people.

Goodbye.

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It's such a relief when you realize there is hope in this place and there are brilliant minds like Gunsfanoldie who make debate interesting, motivating and alluring. No bias, no hateful comments. Everything written from an honest point of view, not some sick small-minded agenda.

Congratulations on such an intelligent brilliant comment.

Too bad I don't see you posting that often!

Is that really necessary? You may not agree with everyone that posts on here (You may not even agree with how they post, as you pointed out in this post) but that hardly makes them "small-minded".

I will send you a DM because my response to this will deviate the thread topic.

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