Fashionista Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 If so, why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Absolutely not. Here are some reasons why: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 No. Imagine Bohemian Rhapsody without the piano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 /thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Bone Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Nope. Every band/musician should be able to decide which instruments they use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Only if one's perception of rock (and overall perception of things) is the same as Ted Nugent's 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson87 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) Fuck no. Some of the best rock songs of all time have had a piano in them. Imagine the Stones or Queen without keyboards/pianos. Edited June 11, 2018 by Gibson_Guy87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabelle Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 What’s wrong with keyboards and piano? Answer is no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 No but Dizzy needs to be castrated for adding honkytonk piano to Nightrain in 2001/2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
default_ Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 It depends on what kind of song/band. If youre in a Rock n Roll band like Guns N Roses, a piano is very welcome. Keyboards not that much... But theres the kind of band that can benefit from that, just not what GNR is (or was, I dont know anymore). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I know that I will probably be in the minority, but I liked what Chris has added during the 2001/2002 tour. It sounded new and was something outside of the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 1) Would there even be rock n roll with out piano? Seems to me that we'd only have the country and skiffle elements and not the Rhythm and Blues aspects of R&R if there were no piano. Not only Little Richard, Fats Domino and Jerry Lee Lewis demonstrate this, but also Chuck Berrys pianist Jonnie Johnson - the name sake and original inspiration for Jonny B Goode. And on that track the piano rolls of Lafayette Leake carry the tune. (btw, whats in the water in Lafayette?!?!?!) "Written by Berry in 1955, the song is about an illiterate "country boy" from the New Orleans area, who plays a guitar "just like ringing a bell", and who might one day have his "name in lights". Berry acknowledged that the song is partly autobiographical and that the original lyrics referred to Johnny as a "colored boy", but he changed it to "country boy" to ensure radio play. As well as suggesting that the guitar player is good, the title hints at autobiographic elements, because Berry was born at 2520 Goode Avenue, in St. Louis. The song was initially inspired by Johnnie Johnson, the regular piano player in Berry's band, but developed into a song mainly about Berry himself. Johnson played on many other recordings by Berry, but Lafayette Leake played the piano on this song." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_B._Goode 2) The piano is the most common instruments for Producers, arrangers and co-writers to use when working with rock bands to flesh out ideas. And very frequently after working things up on piano, the piano remains a new addition to the arrangement. Or in the case of Aerosmith, the formula is often that Whitford and Perry are one hand of the piano part each. 3) The Rolling Stones, The Band, Grateful Dead, to add to the names already in thread. 4) No boogie-woogie; no Slash. No honky-tonk; no Izzy. 5) And who's afraid of a little synthesizer? See what I did there... because he plays "a little synthesizer" hehe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Bone Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, soon said: See what I did there... because he plays "a little synthesizer" hehe Didn't expect to stumble across this song again any time soon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverburst80 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) Piano no never, the keyboard can fuck off though...........unless Ray Manzereks involved. Edited June 11, 2018 by Silverburst80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fashionista Posted June 12, 2018 Author Share Posted June 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Silverburst80 said: Piano no never, the keyboard can fuck off though...........unless Ray Manzereks involved. 4 hours ago, default_ said: It depends on what kind of song/band. If youre in a Rock n Roll band like Guns N Roses, a piano is very welcome. Keyboards not that much... But theres the kind of band that can benefit from that, just not what GNR is (or was, I dont know anymore). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverburst80 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, Fashionista said: Yeah i don't really like any of those songs , plenty do though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fashionista Posted June 12, 2018 Author Share Posted June 12, 2018 Just now, Silverburst80 said: Yeah i don't really like any of those songs , plenty do though. Dust N' Bones has keyboards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverburst80 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Fashionista said: Dust N' Bones has keyboards. The main driving saloon style playing sounds like piano to me though it could be a keyboard, i know theres some organ/synth in the mix on the "thats alright" part in the verses but i don't think the song would miss it if it wasn't there. Keyboards and synth have probably not been a positive inclusion to GNR overall, i mean you put AFD and Chinese Democracy side by side and there's only one clear winner. Edited June 12, 2018 by Silverburst80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Bone Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Silverburst80 said: The main driving saloon style playing sounds like piano to me though it could be a keyboard, i know theres some organ/synth in the mix on the "thats alright" part in the verses but i don't think the song would miss it if it wasn't there. Keyboards and synth have probably not been a positive inclusion to GNR overall, i mean you put AFD and Chinese Democracy side by side and there's only one clear winner. I have to agree with your opinion on Dust N' Bones, although it's one of my favorite songs I wouldn't miss this part. Can be different for others, though. And about Appetite and CD: for most of the GNR fans at least (me included) but there are also some who prefer the CD style, I'm thinking about e.g. my sister, she likes most songs on Appetite but she likes most CD songs better (no pun intended). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverburst80 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 22 minutes ago, Dusty Bone said: I have to agree with your opinion on Dust N' Bones, although it's one of my favorite songs I wouldn't miss this part. Can be different for others, though. And about Appetite and CD: for most of the GNR fans at least (me included) but there are also some who prefer the CD style, I'm thinking about e.g. my sister, she likes most songs on Appetite but she likes most CD songs better (no pun intended). Yeah different strokes for different folks and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fashionista Posted June 12, 2018 Author Share Posted June 12, 2018 Keyboards are a great accent. Where CD goes wrong is they are overused. The bits on DNB add texture to the song, flavor. I liked the live piano on Think About You in 2001 and organ on SCOM. I don't think AFD would've flopped with those touches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Fashionista said: Keyboards are a great accent. Where CD goes wrong is they are overused. The bits on DNB add texture to the song, flavor. I liked the live piano on Think About You in 2001 and organ on SCOM. I don't think AFD would've flopped with those touches. The CD album originally had a lot more synthesizers than the final product. Just compare the first live performance of the title track with the studio version. Edited June 12, 2018 by Sosso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fashionista Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 I always felt like Coma could've used synth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dissident Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 No, they however should be used effectively to enhance tracks less so than to drive them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) In addition to what @soon said about the piano, organ/keyboards were very common in 60s rock (garage rock/proto-punk, blues rock, psychedelia...), even essential to some of the most iconic and influential songs. I don't think the keys take away any of the rawness here: Edited June 15, 2018 by Blackstar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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