wasted Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Ratam said: I think that since 94 many fans make more for keep alive the GNR name ,than the management and record company. True, I did mastermind the marketing and release of CD and NITL tour. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 3 hours ago, adamsapple said: who actually seem to care for their fans. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidman69 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 great podcast guys! Glad you brought some light to this issue. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted July 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2018 12 hours ago, It’s So Easy said: ...I think is time for the band or their management to address this... Couldn't agree more. Even if they're behind it (which would be a REALLY stupid move) they really should address the issue. We know they're (GN'Rs management) very aware of the issue because they read the board regularly. 6 hours ago, Gibbinson1983p said: The fans who got all these sites closed down... Need to get a fcuking life Sad fcukers YEP 5 hours ago, imsorry said: In my opinion its a really serious situation The 3 Little Pigs goes to far this time im pretty sure even the supposed official taken downs riaa , ifpi, umg are fakes youtube doesnt check the veracity of the claims them dont wanna get in trouble and just take the shit out its easier and faster for them, also i dont think its anything related with the box released either for me its more related with those leaks recently and the shit it brought. At first I thought it was related to the boxed set but now I'm thinking otherwise, slightly. What if the idea is to eventually release a bunch of this stuff sooner than later? They probably would rather get the money from it if they choose to sell it. It shields them from the "why would I buy this when I can watch it on YouTube" questions. HOWEVER, it then opens them up to the "Nice. I used to be able to watch this for free but you removed it so you can charge me for it" thing. 3 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: My own suspicion is there is some ''Brazilian'' connection. As I said above; I'm on the fence. Part of me thinks this is "fans" destroying other fans. Part of me thinks TB does have something to do with it. 9 minutes ago, sidman69 said: great podcast guys! Glad you brought some light to this issue. Out of curiosity, have you had any issues arise with your show? Again, thank you to @metalms, @Gibbo, @FRANSAD, @Gambit83 and everyone else for fighting this fight. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kwick1 Posted July 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2018 I just finished listening but did see on Twitter what was occurring before this podcast. My heart goes out to those that have dedicated so much time to YouTube channels to have them unjustly shut down. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post downzy Posted July 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2018 FYI... In the nearly four years since I've owned this forum, I have never received a single copyright violation claim. Never. Around the same time the latest round of leaks started showing up a month or two ago, this forum received numerous requests to take down copyright material on behalf of copyright owners who weren't named. This forum and myself also received cease and desist orders from individuals who are rumoured to be responsible for either hoarding and/or selling copyrighted material. I do believe in coincidences, but some defy what's reasonable. 6 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Its the circus freaks, of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJRemastered Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 hour ago, RussTCB said: As I said above; I'm on the fence. Part of me thinks this is "fans" destroying other fans. Part of me thinks TB does have something to do with it. On recent leaks that were taken down if you were to enter on the youtube links on some of the videos i remember seeing something related to team brazil, also there was a comment from a youtube channel named team brazil on the omg leak where they said, delete this now. I am not sure about the first part, but with the comment i am 100% sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 2 hours ago, wasted said: True, I did mastermind the marketing and release of CD and NITL tour. Good sarcasm..👍sure nor you nor myself was the mastermind about CD or NITL tour , i refered if not was for many fans that since 94 keep alive the GNR name thanks the Internet , maybe only maybe would be forgot , they had a 23 years of break, if they not had such dedicated fans, full of fanpages in the Internet ,this Forum is a proof ,i not know if this tour would be many success like was, new generations of fans are thanks the Internet and they insistent fans, and many youtoube channels dedicate they. Sure that they had talent ,but this only not justify they permanence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, MJRemastered said: On recent leaks that were taken down if you were to enter on the youtube links on some of the videos i remember seeing something related to team brazil, also there was a comment from a youtube channel named team brazil on the omg leak where they said, delete this now. I am not sure about the first part, but with the comment i am 100% sure One of the "fans" is known for creating tons of official looking accounts, so I wouldn't put too much stock into that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donny Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 i have a copy of an Email threatening legal action about copyright infringement, its on my computer somewhere but can i heck find it. it is dated from about 6 weeks ago and was posted on the GN'R bootlegs facebook page which has now been closed down. the person who sent the Email clearly put their name at the bottom of it and take it from me, it is not from team brazil, uzisuicidal LLC or someone that lives in a trailer park. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, donny said: i have a copy of an Email threatening legal action about copyright infringement, its on my computer somewhere but can i heck find it. it is dated from about 6 weeks ago and was posted on the GN'R bootlegs facebook page which has now been closed down. the person who sent the Email clearly put their name at the bottom of it and take it from me, it is not from team brazil, uzisuicidal LLC or someone that lives in a trailer park. I think that exist the sheriff webb ,maybe he would to mediate in this case of threatening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwick1 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I only hope that when this settles people get their channels back and we can continue to share our love for GnR from concert footage and leaks. What @Ratamsaid is correct, so many have discovered GnR thru YouTube. GnR has not been the most productive band yet it gains and retains fans largely from YouTube. I have read so many younger fan accounts of the first time they heard GnR and then immediately went on YouTube and spent days watching the band and fell in love with GnR. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Kwick1 said: I only hope that when this settles people get their channels back and we can continue to share our love for GnR from concert footage and leaks. What @Ratamsaid is correct, so many have discovered GnR thru YouTube. GnR has not been the most productive band yet it gains and retains fans largely from YouTube. I have read so many younger fan accounts of the first time they heard GnR and then immediately went on YouTube and spent days watching the band and fell in love with GnR. Yes@Kwick1 we the fans are since January-December ,in general management-record company most appear when they need to market something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJRemastered Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 25 minutes ago, Kwick1 said: I only hope that when this settles people get their channels back and we can continue to share our love for GnR from concert footage and leaks. What @Ratamsaid is correct, so many have discovered GnR thru YouTube. GnR has not been the most productive band yet it gains and retains fans largely from YouTube. I have read so many younger fan accounts of the first time they heard GnR and then immediately went on YouTube and spent days watching the band and fell in love with GnR. im guilty of that, i became a fan last year in april-may and thanks to youtube and fran's channel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidman69 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 3 hours ago, RussTCB said: Couldn't agree more. Even if they're behind it (which would be a REALLY stupid move) they really should address the issue. We know they're (GN'Rs management) very aware of the issue because they read the board regularly. YEP At first I thought it was related to the boxed set but now I'm thinking otherwise, slightly. What if the idea is to eventually release a bunch of this stuff sooner than later? They probably would rather get the money from it if they choose to sell it. It shields them from the "why would I buy this when I can watch it on YouTube" questions. HOWEVER, it then opens them up to the "Nice. I used to be able to watch this for free but you removed it so you can charge me for it" thing. As I said above; I'm on the fence. Part of me thinks this is "fans" destroying other fans. Part of me thinks TB does have something to do with it. Out of curiosity, have you had any issues arise with your show? Again, thank you to @metalms, @Gibbo, @FRANSAD, @Gambit83 and everyone else for fighting this fight. yup had lots of issues. Thankfully I found someone on YouTube's side who was able to help me out big time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Wagszilla said: If Team Brazil is indeed copyright striking things, it just proves they don't know their ass from their elbow. I am 99 percent sure that it's not TB that is initiating or directing these actions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_seiya Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 This happens with all bands that end up releasing demos and unreleased music officially. Im a huge Pink Floyd fan and had a lot of rare stuff that has been taken down because they ended up being officially released. If you are a true gnr fan then you don't get your stuff from youtube, just sayin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post janrichmond Posted July 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, saint_seiya said: . If you are a true gnr fan then you don't get your stuff from youtube, just sayin... I think that's a very unfair assumption. I have many things saved from youtube but i've also spent a shit ton of money on GnR 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabelle Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, saint_seiya said: If you are a true gnr fan then you don't get your stuff from youtube, just sayin... Did you listen to the podcast? That’s not the issue at all, far from it. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 What is this?! What could that T22 number represent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 33 minutes ago, saint_seiya said: If you are a true gnr fan then you don't get your stuff from youtube, just sayin... Huh? Plenty of "true gnr fans" have been made because of YouTube. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Ratam said: Good sarcasm..👍sure nor you nor myself was the mastermind about CD or NITL tour , i refered if not was for many fans that since 94 keep alive the GNR name thanks the Internet , maybe only maybe would be forgot , they had a 23 years of break, if they not had such dedicated fans, full of fanpages in the Internet ,this Forum is a proof ,i not know if this tour would be many success like was, new generations of fans are thanks the Internet and they insistent fans, and many youtoube channels dedicate they. Sure that they had talent ,but this only not justify they permanence. You obviously don’t know me very well. I think the internet played a role to keep the embers alive of fans who didn’t have much to shout about. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwick1 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 and I think GnR realizes that as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidman69 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 50 minutes ago, Blackstar said: What is this?! What could that T22 number represent? wow that is a new one. Only seen uzi suicidal, IFPI and RIAA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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