kitstuai Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Cosmo said: I was thinking the same thing. How and why dis Monsters leak if The General’s gonna be the B-side to Perhaps? My theory is that Monsters was gonna be a hidden bonus track in that single or something. You can't fit 9 minutes on a 7" 45 RPM, just impossible. Maybe back then when no one cared about the quality, not in 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020_Intensions Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 What happened to that epic guitar trill before Axl's screeching vocals come in? Is it just too buried and I didn't hear it? Or did Slash decide to not include it? One of my favorite parts from the Evader mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixAreForKids Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 The General seems unfinished, I’m hoping the finished version sounds much better. 💯 that’s Slash on Monsters. We’ve all been listening to GnR’ since we were kids, we know his tone, that’s him!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 16 minutes ago, kitstuai said: Yes slash playing is the only questionable thing. But these songs are not from the vinyl. Maybe it's not from a vinyl rip, yes. But that doesn't mean they're older versions. There are other ways to have access to these and the result to be of this quality than a vinyl rip or someone having the source file. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agattuso Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Unagi said: Not weird at all. Outside of this forum nobody cares about this material. At all. And why would they? Both of these songs are going to sink without a trace, probably why Axl chose to bury The General as a b-track on a vinyl release that has been completely fucked up. Chinese leftovers from an album that bombed. I had high hopes with the reunion but this is just embarrassing now. If you go through the band's Instagram or Facebook post past 6 weeks you can easily see that a lot of people not only knew, but hypes for The General (and are praising Perhaps). This forum is not the center of GNR universe, it is just a sample 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Ohhh I love that Robin and Bucket work on the new songs, fucking rocks...so moody and dark. What?? It's Slash??? Oooo, I meant to say, that's what's missing from the track, the moody vibe that Bucket would of brought....sorry, you misheard me. The track kinda sucks 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, kitstuai said: You can't fit 9 minutes on a 7" 45 RPM, just impossible. Maybe back then when no one cared about the quality, not in 2023 True. But why and how did Monsters leak though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimiRose Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Lethalis said: Do we dare to dream of an album again? Absurd, Hard Skool, Perhaps, The General, Monsters. Add Atlas Shrugged, State of Grace and we're almost there. Duff and Slash have probably reworked more songs. Slash said 5/6. seemed liked he really didnt give a shit and couldnt be bothered to even recall how many they did. However, maybe he was saying that as the general and monsters were 2 songs in 1 and could have been released standalone or as 1. HS Absurd Atlas Perhaps The General and monsters. That would be all the songs re recorded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitstuai Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, Cosmo said: True. But why and how did Monsters leak though? Because the leak has nothing to do with the vinyl. It didn't even ship at all, nobody has it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Axl's ability going from full baritone to a screaming god in Monsters is unbelievable 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uruguns Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, Cosmo said: True. But why and how did Monsters leak though? Fernando leaked it because fans were mad at the postponement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liers Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Is anyone else thinking that the leaks may have been done intentionally by the GnR camp? Perhaps there was an issue with the manufacturing of the vinyl so they leaked the songs out this wat to make up for it in the mean time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, uruguns said: Fernando leaked it because fans were mad at the postponement If really someone inside GNRs camp leaked it, to me that means a digital release is close, maybe the 31st. Otherwise I think it was someone else who for some reason had access to the vinyl. Edited October 28, 2023 by StrangerInThisTown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSTK Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, uruguns said: Fernando leaked it because fans were mad at the postponement He couldn't leak a fucked kitchen tap let alone a song 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hidin´Stradlin Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Like them both a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agattuso Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Imagine the U turns people gotta do if song released on December, and it's a different version while people been praising Slash playing on this leak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said: What happened to that epic guitar trill before Axl's screeching vocals come in? Is it just too buried and I didn't hear it? Or did Slash decide to not include it? One of my favorite parts from the Evader mix. The evader mix is made from scratch....it's NOT a mix of a demo or leak we had....so basically you're just saying, you prefer a cover/interpretation of a song we guessed about based on a short clip distanced from the speakers it came from with loud crowd chatter far more present in the audio than the music....it was a decent guess but it isn't a thing you can prefer as to be annoyed that things weren't included officially based on a fans work...if you prefer fans music to Guns, stick to that, eh.... (I love Evaders work) but I found it so strange that so many seem to think his version is based on a leak we had or something. I suppose it's a testament to his talent and to the fact, some folk don't care for details ...like saying "ooo why did Axl not include the original vocals about being chained, etc"...seriously! Edited October 28, 2023 by colonizedmind 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trin9498 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Evader’s General is Better than Axl’s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitstuai Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Have you thought about the fact slash isn't playing on any of these 2 tracks. But since we don't know when this recording was made, we want to believe he's on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimiRose Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 36 minutes ago, kitstuai said: It could be a song recorded before 1993. Or they took slash recording parts from a certain time. No, even if this is not the same guitar player in this leak and live, the chorus has a completely different vibe. Like it's not playing the same thing Did you say earlier a song can't change tempo or key, thus it must be fake or an AI? IS that a serious comment or you jus trolling? I mean no one sad enough to be on any forum is that musically illiterate and dumb? People here tend to be a bit more hardcore. not that some people dont say stupid shit, but this is reaaaaaaaaallly stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSTK Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hidin´Stradlin said: Like them both a lot! When you hear it as one song, it's even better to me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Agattuso said: Imagine the U turns people gotta do if song released on December, and it's a different version while people been praising Slash playing on this leak Do your ears work? Are you a fan of this band? Do you know what Slash's tone sounds like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSTK Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, kitstuai said: Have you thought about the fact slash isn't playing on any of these 2 tracks. But since we don't know when this recording was made, we want to believe he's on them. It's all opinions at this point til writing & recording credits come out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, kitstuai said: Have you thought about the fact slash isn't playing on any of these 2 tracks No I haven't because 1) I'm not an idiot and 2) because I have ears Edited October 28, 2023 by StrangerInThisTown 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DingBat Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 15 minutes ago, kitstuai said: You can't fit 9 minutes on a 7" 45 RPM, just impossible. Maybe back then when no one cared about the quality, not in 2023 Well the RPM is up to them. Might sound like shit, but it's not impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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