NicoRourke Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 I'm really moved by those two songs, can't wait to purchase them in some proper form I hope both songs will be presented on the Perhaps vinyl. Axl is a really special artist, those two are triggering all kinds of emotions it's almost cathartic. I hope all those songs he worked on brought him some form of happiness. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaguns1982 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, DSTK said: Agree but omg has already been released & going down has Tommy on vocals..maybe a Duff track that's not a snooze fest would be cool Love both omg & going down but can't see it happening Some of duffs material with loaded kicks ass. I can definitely envision Axl on vocals and there would be some cool rockers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3coloursbeige Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Great to hear new music from the gang. But all the songs that have emerged sound completely different to each other. They sound like they have been recorded and produced by different bands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonGuns Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 A few comments: - a 9 min song will sound dreadful on a 7”. Hopefully they’ve had the common sense to upgrade to a 45rpm 12” single. - as great as it is to have Slash and Axl back together, this kind of makes me (even more) realise “what could have been”. Why oh why not release this in 2004-2010. The reunion would have come anyway. - this makes me still want a CD boxset at some point. Empty the vault. Doesn’t need fancy packaging, but I would pay $$$ for it. - I know I’ll get slaughtered for this, and I love the Slash + Axl combo, but I’d love to hear those screams towards the end of the songs with Bucket shredding underneath. I originally thought it was Bucket but have since reassessed as Slash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSTK Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, megaguns1982 said: Some of duffs material with loaded kicks ass. I can definitely envision Axl on vocals and there would be some cool rockers Kicks ass ? His solo stuff apart from one album is a tad dull , you never know with Guns now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonGuns Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, 3coloursbeige said: Great to hear new music from the gang. But all the songs that have emerged sound completely different to each other. They sound like they have been recorded and produced by different bands. I tend to agree. Not sure if it is a good thing (variation) or a bad thing (difficult to sync into an album etc). I suppose it’s to be expected as the songs are essentially Frankensteined versions of songs created over a 20+ period with endless writers and 20+ band members through the revolving door. The only real way to avoid this would have been to re-record everything from scratch in one session - the songs would have originated from different places but would have at least been sonically the same. The issue currently is not only are the songs different styles but then the production / mixing / mastering / drum sound etc etc is also completely different which compounds the issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansidhe Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Got Monsters blasting in the work van. Sounds huge through decent speakers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) So it’s our monsters who were the general the whole time. Jung would have loved this. Monumental stuff. Edited October 28, 2023 by jamillos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lies They Tell Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, 3coloursbeige said: Great to hear new music from the gang. But all the songs that have emerged sound completely different to each other. They sound like they have been recorded and produced by different bands. If you ask me, that's only a good thing. I like variety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumcheecksmcghee Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 hour ago, jacdaniel said: Don't be bitter. They haven't been a band in 2 decades.. It's over now No one's bitter?? But you're comparing apples to oranges? Also hardschool is still better than hard skool.... and silkworms is more bearable than absurd. So.... Facts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneway23 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Imagine if the b-side on the Perhaps single is literally only The General portion, and we don't get Monsters on the official release 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindray11 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 13 hours ago, gavgnr said: @Mindray11 how does it compare buddy? it's interesting how much i missed because all of the people talking in the room back then, you couldn't hear everything that's going on in the songs. i actually thought some songs didn't sound like guns n roses, but it makes so much sense now because the general doesn't sound like a typical gnr song. i remember a lot more parts of it now. this stuff is amazing. i loved bucketheads solo in monsters, but slash's is amazing too. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, jamillos said: They're not a single song, they're two songs. And fuck me running, "Monsters" truly is a gem. Bullshit, bud. (Yes, I'm talking to myself, and nobody's home.) Edited October 28, 2023 by jamillos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 I heard people theorize that Monsters Will be the R side to the Atlas single. I love The General, like Monsters too, but so far The General is my favourite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cantona Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 The ''what I did for you'' vocal portion of Monsters has to be the most gut wrenching cathartic singing I ever heard from Axl Rose. I'm just at a loss for words right now 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veon Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 43 minutes ago, kitstuai said: Perhaps vinyl is 7" 45 RPM there's no way a 9 minutes song can fit on B side It’s can be done. However, the peeps in the know say there’s diminishing sound quality with songs that last longer then 4-5 minutes. https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/longest-commerically-released-7-inch-45rpm-record.129245/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lelex95 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Spoon87 said: Why they haven't put this out for streaming on every platform available now that the leak is out there is completely beyond me. Make it available for everybody in the best quality possible asap! We'll be happy waiting for the vinyl! Just do something! They probably don’t want to reinforce the message that if they take it slow on the release all it takes is for someone to leak it and the song will be released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumcheecksmcghee Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, Eric Cantona said: The ''what I did for you'' vocal portion of Monsters has to be the most gut wrenching cathartic singing I ever heard from Axl Rose. I'm just at a loss for words right now I'm still at a loss for words that time you king fu kicked that bloke in the crowd... epic moment in history 😎 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blackstar Posted October 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2023 11 minutes ago, bumcheecksmcghee said: Also hardschool is still better than hard skool.... and silkworms is more bearable than absurd. So.... Facts Opinions 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiven.DxN.10 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Just listened to 'em. The General for me def is a grower. I like the thing that you can hear the live orchestral intro in the background as I thought that the instrumental was an intro to the actual song. From the other hand the Monsters...that's a total banger. Insane vocals! For sure one of my favorites from now on, both from the CD album and the locker leaks. A friend of mine send me a screenshot from reddit were a guy said that the original concept was to get Perhaps/The General and then Atlas/Monsters. So if we don't get both of them on the Perhaps 7" we know for sure what they'll release with Atlas when or if it's get released and the guy who said that is not a troll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitstuai Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, veon said: It’s can be done. However, the peeps in the know say there’s diminishing sound quality with songs that last longer then 4-5 minutes. https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/longest-commerically-released-7-inch-45rpm-record.129245/ Doesn't make any sense, they released a Hard Skool 33 RPM version with 2 tracks on side B (6:20 min), if they had a 9 minutes song they would have put it on the 33 directly i think the song we will have is around 5 minutes lenght and they thought it would be okay on the 45 RPM but it's not Edited October 28, 2023 by kitstuai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Lio said: I heard people theorize that Monsters Will be the R side to the Atlas single. I love The General, like Monsters too, but so far The General is my favourite. Where does this Atlas/Monsters rumour come from? I think it's without merit, since The General and Monsters has been registered as one song in databases. EDIT: I just saw where it comes from: 8 minutes ago, Stiven.DxN.10 said: A friend of mine send me a screenshot from reddit were a guy said that the original concept was to get Perhaps/The General and then Atlas/Monsters. So if we don't get both of them on the Perhaps 7" we know for sure what they'll release with Atlas when or if it's get released and the guy who said that is not a troll. I don't know who the person on Reddit is, but even if that was the original plan, it seems clear now that they'll be released as one song. Edit 2: Oh yeah, it's an "insider" who has been source of various rumours that were never turned out to be true. Edited October 28, 2023 by Blackstar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uzi your illusion Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 No clue how close or far off this interpretation might be. But I've heard the 9 minute one now a ton of times. I take the first part [General] to refrence the child abuse that took place early on in his life, with the eerie orchestration in the background acting as the manifestation of those feelings that the abuse could cause. And Monsters, as the companion piece, sounds like it's about a failed relationship with a woman later on in life that falls apart for whatever reason. But prehaps the abuse suffered early in life still seeps into Axl's day to day, underlined again by the same orchestration during this part of the song, and that the abuse will always play a part poisoning his adult relationships. That's how I'm reading into it. And if it's close to being accurate, it's exactly what I would have hoped for as a fan who waited on CD and knew it could live up to his artistic heights. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Slash's (I assume) lick before Axl's screams in Monsters is fucking epic. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cantona Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 I hope these songs were in some way healing to write, considering how cathartic a listen it seems to befor many others. Haunting and beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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