THE GENERAL - MONSTERS - Official Discussion Thread. NO LINKS OR ASKING FOR LINKS

[evilfacelessturtle]

9 hours ago, username said:

You're probably right about TB not being the only idiots doing this... BUT for this I can bring out the ago-old argument that shit like this, for some reason, only happens to GnR. Not to any other high profile rock band. Just GnR. Every other band I've purchased music from in the past years, be it vinyl or cd, does not have this problem. But GnR does. It's always something with them. 

Mis-prints are not uncommon in music memorabilia, and often end up becoming collector's items. AC/DC had some singles with "Givin' the Dog a Bone" misspelled as "Given the Dog a Bone".

[mr-fukaji]

my own personal guess for the errors is nobody at the label is providing anything but the most basic support for the band after their last record took 16 years, cost $14m and then they disappeared off the face of the earth for about a year when it came out

[Skamos66]

Axl made a comment before The General at Hell & Heaven "I'd like to tell you why it is a new song, but, whatever."

I don't know of course, but I'd like to think Axl was going to introduce it as "This is a new song, "The General", which was going to be on the follow-up record to Chinese, you'll hear the rest of the album next year"
But I feel like Fernando or some management told him to not announce it. 
No facts on that, just my opinion.

[CAFC Nick]

2 minutes ago, Skamos66 said:

Axl made a comment before The General at Hell & Heaven "I'd like to tell you why it is a new song, but, whatever."

I don't know of course, but I'd like to think Axl was going to introduce it as "This is a new song, "The General", which was going to be on the follow-up record to Chinese, you'll hear the rest of the album next year"
But I feel like Fernando or some management told him to not announce it. 
No facts on that, just my opinion.

If your hypothesis is accurate, it was probably a smart decision. Axl doesn’t have the best track record in things he says coming to fruition, especially within a normal timeframe.

[Skamos66]

Also, I contacted GritaRadio, who did that terrible glitchy livestream at that show, and asked about footage. Got an interesting reply.

(This is part of something that is going on called "Project: Atlas Breakdown" behind the scenes, a few fans including me know about it, not going into detail as I don't want to expose the plans to TB of course and get sued lol)
*Not saying I had anything to do with it when/if it works

Edited December 27, 2023 by Skamos66

[Blackstar]

7 hours ago, mr-fukaji said:

my own personal guess for the errors is nobody at the label is providing anything but the most basic support for the band after their last record took 16 years, cost $14m and then they disappeared off the face of the earth for about a year when it came out

I agree that these releases have not had much support from the label (I would say they've got minimal support and promotion), but that's not because of the reason you mention. The reason is that these are more GN'R releases than label releases, as the label is only the distributor. On the other hand, the label has seemed to be more supportive of the archival releases (the box sets) as it has more rights to that old material, even though they did less promotion for the UYI box set than the AFD one (and my guess is that was also because ownership of the rights of the UYI era material is mixed: the label acted as the distributor in the case of the live stuff, as GN'R owns the rights to the live recordings).

This is a factor that many people either ignore or overlook, but I think it's a really important factor regarding these "new" releases and probably a big part of the reason why we're getting these songs now and not earlier.

[Let And Let Live]

Still haven't heard Monsters.

[DSTK]

3 minutes ago, Let And Let Live said:

Still haven't heard Monsters.

Where have you been for 2 months...I'm not wanting to piss on your fire, but it's fucking awesome 

[Let And Let Live]

6 minutes ago, DSTK said:

Where have you been for 2 months...I'm not wanting to piss on your fire, but it's fucking awesome 

I try to remember to drop in every six months or so

[6lake sa66ath]

17 minutes ago, Let And Let Live said:

Still haven't heard Monsters.

Me neither and will wait for an official release like I did The General. 
 

I hope it’s as good as everyone in here claims!

[Sweersa]

On 12/24/2023 at 9:56 PM, Powerage5 said:

Just to play devil's advocate here a little bit...while the pixelated cover is a widespread problem, it's not a universal problem. As far as I can tell everyone who has reported a pixelated cover has an EU pressing (With the "made in the Czech Republic" sticker on the shrink). However, not all EU copies have a pixelated cover - mine does not for example, and I've seen others say that. So the issue is not as was originally thought where someone submitted the wrong file type or something, it's obviously a printing error.

I'm in the US and my Perhaps vinyl has the Czech sticker and no pixilation issue. 

[Axls_Moustache_Rules]

Pixelated cover is the new How are you grenade/red hand cover.

[fabrph5]

2 hours ago, 6lake sa66ath said:

Me neither and will wait for an official release like I did The General. 
 

I hope it’s as good as everyone in here claims!

do you get an award for waiting?  With this band, take all you get IMO

[gavgnr]

30 minutes ago, fabrph5 said:

With this band, take all you get IMO

Damn straight. None of us know what’s around the corner

[DSTK]

3 hours ago, 6lake sa66ath said:

Me neither and will wait for an official release like I did The General. 
 

I hope it’s as good as everyone in here claims!

The thing is with GNR, it may never get released 

[AxlUlrich]

On 12/26/2023 at 7:06 PM, NormisX said:

what CD?

Perhaps cd single from Japan

[6lake sa66ath]

2 hours ago, fabrph5 said:

do you get an award for waiting?

I’ll take a hockey stick.

[evilfacelessturtle]

7 hours ago, Skamos66 said:

Axl made a comment before The General at Hell & Heaven "I'd like to tell you why it is a new song, but, whatever."

I don't know of course, but I'd like to think Axl was going to introduce it as "This is a new song, "The General", which was going to be on the follow-up record to Chinese, you'll hear the rest of the album next year"
But I feel like Fernando or some management told him to not announce it. 
No facts on that, just my opinion.

Man, the conspiracies people have come up with around that are quite amusing.

Axl said something to the techs, but they responded "I can't hear a word you're saying". He was probably asking them to delay the trigger of the video, lighting, click track etc, but they couldn't hear him so he got frustrated and figured "forget about it".

[Sweersa]

Like with most Guns leaks, I wish Monsters and The General leaked in a form previous to NITL working on them. That way, we have different mixes to compare. 

[DSTK]

6 hours ago, Let And Let Live said:

I try to remember to drop in every six months or so

In 6 months,  either nothing could have happened,  or another village locker leak

[TiedHands]

14 hours ago, Skamos66 said:

Axl made a comment before The General at Hell & Heaven "I'd like to tell you why it is a new song, but, whatever."

I don't know of course, but I'd like to think Axl was going to introduce it as "This is a new song, "The General", which was going to be on the follow-up record to Chinese, you'll hear the rest of the album next year"
But I feel like Fernando or some management told him to not announce it. 
No facts on that, just my opinion.

It seemed to me that they were just having technical issues at the time and he was pissed because of it. These conspiracy theories on here are just dumb lol

[Zeppelin]

16 hours ago, Skamos66 said:

Axl made a comment before The General at Hell & Heaven "I'd like to tell you why it is a new song, but, whatever."

I don't know of course, but I'd like to think Axl was going to introduce it as "This is a new song, "The General", which was going to be on the follow-up record to Chinese, you'll hear the rest of the album next year"
But I feel like Fernando or some management told him to not announce it. 
No facts on that, just my opinion.

New album imminent.

[GNRRHCP98]

4 hours ago, Zeppelin said:

New album imminent.

Well, to me, it was a little odd cause he did get to state it is a new song, but not “why.”

Probably reading too much into it, but it could be argued there was some intent on Axl’s part to talk a little bit more about TG before the performance. 

Edited December 28, 2023 by GNRRHCP98

[Sweersa]

I wonder why they are only seemingly doing a Japanese CD release this time. Hard Skool and Absurd got the works, trifecta. CD, vinyl, and audio cassette! 

[Gordon Comstock]

For those who didn't want to order the CD from Japan, it's on amazon now. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CMZBGN7D/