invisible_rose Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) Given we now have a fair chunk of demos, 'finished' and released tracks from what could/would/should have been Chinese Democracy II, how do you envisage the track list/running order? And do the CDII tracks have a parallel on CDI. Obviously there are a few holes. If there are any tracks I've missed, feel free to add them in! Here's a my first, very quick comparison. Let's hear your take (PS there are no wrong answers!) 1. Chinese Democracy = Oh My God 2. Shackler = Absurd 3. Better = Perhaps 4. Street of Dreams = Going Down 5. If the World = Knocking on Heavens Door (Acoustic) 6. There Was a Time = Monsters 7. Catcher = Atlas Shrugged 8. Scraped = State of Grace 9. Riad = 10. Sorry = The General 11. IRS = Hard Skool 12. Madagascar = 13. This I Love = 14. Prostitute = Edited December 1, 2023 by invisible_rose 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -W.A.R- Posted December 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2023 Starting the album with Oh My God and Absurd would be a bold move. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Don't forget Nothing and Eye On You. Berlin, Seven, Cuban Skies, Monstrocity, and Tonto are also near certainties as far as finished songs, but we have yet to hear complete mixes of those songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 4 hours ago, invisible_rose said: Given we now have a fair chunk of demos, 'finished' and released tracks from what could/would/should have been Chinese Democracy II, how do you envisage the track list/running order? And do the CDII tracks have a parallel on CDI. Obviously there are a few holes. If there are any tracks I've missed, feel free to add them in! Here's a my first, very quick comparison. Let's hear your take (PS there are no wrong answers!) 1. Chinese Democracy = Oh My God 2. Shackler = Absurd 3. Better = Perhaps 4. Street of Dreams = Going Down 5. If the World = Knocking on Heavens Door (Acoustic) 6. There Was a Time = Monsters 7. Catcher = Atlas Shrugged 8. Scraped = State of Grace 9. Riad = 10. Sorry = The General 11. IRS = Hard Skool 12. Madagascar = 13. This I Love = 14. Prostitute = My word I thought the common talk we have of going as far back to revamp OMG for an album was a WTF...now we're re-doing '91 with Heavens Door. Shit-a-brick 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible_rose Posted December 1, 2023 Author Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 hour ago, colonizedmind said: My word I thought the common talk we have of going as far back to revamp OMG for an album was a WTF...now we're re-doing '91 with Heavens Door. Shit-a-brick 🤣 Have you heard the acoustic version of KOHD? Granted, it would never have made CDII, but from what we have, it's a great cover of a cover! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 hour ago, invisible_rose said: Have you heard the acoustic version of KOHD? Granted, it would never have made CDII, but from what we have, it's a great cover of a cover! I have and nothing wrong with it at all, it's just the pure optics of another proposed old old song being added to albums decades apart..unless it's a reimagination of old hits, it's new songs we want, not old songs on a new album....we could obviously make that ourselves...😬 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prez Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 NGL that prospective tracklist makes me glad we didn't get CD2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmus1 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Chinese Democracy II. 12 songs, bring it full circle with a Slash/Duff redo of the title track. Listening to the demos sequenced, if they all had vocals, it wouldn’t be the worst album (+ assuming Seven exists because I needed a 7th song ) 1. Oklahoma 2. Hard Skool 3. Absurd 4. Perhaps 5. The General 6. Monsters 7. Seven 8. Atlas Shrugged 9. Oh My God 10. Leave Me Alone 11. Quicksong 12. Chinese Democracy (w/Slash, Duff, Brain, Melissa) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 12 hours ago, -W.A.R- said: Starting the album with Oh My God and Absurd would be a bold move. A fucking awesome 1-2 punch in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 From what we've heard, Hardschool with the long intro would've been the best opening song for CD2. If completed, Zodiac and Oklahoma would also be good choices. Just going off the few tracks we've heard and that CD2 email list, this would've been a decent tracklist. Hardschool Oklahoma/Berlin Perhaps Atlas Shrugged State Of Grace Tonto Going Down Absurd The General Soul Monster OMG, TIL remix, Ten Percenter, etc could be bonus tracks. Obviously we can't really comment on songs like Cuban Skies, Nothing, Monstrocity, Down By The Ocean, Seven, etc but they had at least one more solid album ready to go, even without those tracks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 47 minutes ago, bmus1 said: Chinese Democracy II. 12 songs, bring it full circle with a Slash/Duff redo of the title track. Listening to the demos sequenced, if they all had vocals, it wouldn’t be the worst album (+ assuming Seven exists because I needed a 7th song ) 1. Oklahoma 2. Hard Skool 3. Absurd 4. Perhaps 5. The General 6. Monsters 7. Seven 8. Atlas Shrugged 9. Oh My God 10. Leave Me Alone 11. Quicksong 12. Chinese Democracy (w/Slash, Duff, Brain, Melissa) Monsters and Leave Me Alone are the same song - Soul Monster. And tbh, re-releasing CD-era songs with Slash and Duff would be ridiculously lame and uninteresting even for a band that barely releases music. I really don't know why some people here want a 'new' version of CD, OMG, Better, etc but I guess it's a 'beggars can't be choosers' thing... Give me live songs, cover songs, or even Duff songs over re-recorded songs from 20+ years ago... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmus1 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 5 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said: Monsters and Leave Me Alone are the same song - Soul Monster. Which is the 6:30ish instrumental with piano breaks, Me & My Elvis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 To think it's practically half a record already officially released, it's pretty mental all things considered. I've not even attempted playing what we have back to back yet, I imagine it would be quite sonically jarring given the difference in mixing, but I do hope we get a cohesive package at some point soon, but I imagine it's most likely going to be continuing to drip feed these songs over the course of a few years and then the band looking at starting from scratch for a new album, sadly - I'll happily take whatever we're given though! Oklahoma/Berlin and Zodiac will hopefully be enjoyed in the not too distant future. The Village Leaks are full of intriguing instrumentals that would have made a great follow up to Chinese had they been worked on - which is possible given the timeline of the Village sessions is from 2000/01. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 23 minutes ago, bmus1 said: Which is the 6:30ish instrumental with piano breaks, Me & My Elvis? No, that's a different track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) If only we had a GNR album per amount of these threads over the last decade and a half! If we did, we would be giving the Prince catalogue a run for its money... Edited December 2, 2023 by colonizedmind 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible_rose Posted December 2, 2023 Author Share Posted December 2, 2023 18 hours ago, colonizedmind said: I have and nothing wrong with it at all, it's just the pure optics of another proposed old old song being added to albums decades apart..unless it's a reimagination of old hits, it's new songs we want, not old songs on a new album....we could obviously make that ourselves...😬 Totally agree. Glad we got the recording though. I thought it was a great version. 5 hours ago, Dean said: To think it's practically half a record already officially released, it's pretty mental all things considered. I've not even attempted playing what we have back to back yet, I imagine it would be quite sonically jarring given the difference in mixing, but I do hope we get a cohesive package at some point soon, but I imagine it's most likely going to be continuing to drip feed these songs over the course of a few years and then the band looking at starting from scratch for a new album, sadly - I'll happily take whatever we're given though! Oklahoma/Berlin and Zodiac will hopefully be enjoyed in the not too distant future. The Village Leaks are full of intriguing instrumentals that would have made a great follow up to Chinese had they been worked on - which is possible given the timeline of the Village sessions is from 2000/01. Sonically jarring - bravo! Great way to describe what we have so far in terms of a running order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible_rose Posted December 2, 2023 Author Share Posted December 2, 2023 11 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said: From what we've heard, Hardschool with the long intro would've been the best opening song for CD2. If completed, Zodiac and Oklahoma would also be good choices. Just going off the few tracks we've heard and that CD2 email list, this would've been a decent tracklist. Hardschool Oklahoma/Berlin Perhaps Atlas Shrugged State Of Grace Tonto Going Down Absurd The General Soul Monster OMG, TIL remix, Ten Percenter, etc could be bonus tracks. Obviously we can't really comment on songs like Cuban Skies, Nothing, Monstrocity, Down By The Ocean, Seven, etc but they had at least one more solid album ready to go, even without those tracks. I really did prefer the 'Hard School' with the longer intro, which was surely meant for an album version vs the single we got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmus1 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 7 hours ago, Blackstar said: No, that's a different track. Wait which one is it lol I think I've only seen it falsely titled online then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, bmus1 said: Wait which one is it lol I think I've only seen it falsely titled online then. Me and My Elvis is the instrumental track contained in the locker discs. Most people were certain that it was the same song that later became Soul Monster and many even renamed it. But it wasn't, eventually. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 On 12/1/2023 at 11:17 AM, -W.A.R- said: Starting the album with Oh My God and Absurd would be a bold move. One might even say it's...Absurd? I'll show myself out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimisbatman Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Am I the only one that would love P.R.L as the opening track into OMG. Try it out, it rocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agattuso Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 I really love Me and My Elvis. That harmony of the piano soft melody and the guitar's descending riff has been stuck in my head for a long time. I think NITL treatment will really elevate it (that riff always remind me of Slash) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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