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The Hateful Eight - New/Second Trailer!


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You could not give a Scorsese equivalent of the advice to, stay at home and watch Lady Snowblood or Foxy Brown. Scorsese's films, especially his 1970's work, are thoroughly original creations. What influences they are (e.g. I Vitelloni on Mean Streets) are just that: influences. In fact there are few films more original than Mean Streets.

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For the record, I do not like everything Scorsese has done. Some of those criticisms are valid - although I do love Casino. I was not that keen on Shutter Island to be honest. But it is not exactly a good argument to defend Tarantino with, by stressing the shortcomings of Scorsese.

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I just saw a new TV spot that only feature's Channing Tatum's character. Talk about giving away the whole movie in the advertising :thumbsdown:

Ouch.

Just seen this today, it was just released here. I thought it was fairly good, but it was very-by-the-numbers for a Tarantino film.

I didn't take issues with alot of the stuff, it was basically what you'd expect from one of his films. Certain scenes that border on self-indulgence, in other words lasting a little bit longer than needed. Dialogue scenes that go on a bit too much and don't advance the plot, some pretense to justify excessive use of the n word and the ending was almost too predictable.

It's what I expect from one of his films and I normally love it, this though was missing a spark. It wasn't one of his better films, but it was still a Tarantino film I guess :shrugs:.

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I just saw a new TV spot that only feature's Channing Tatum's character. Talk about giving away the whole movie in the advertising :thumbsdown:

Ouch.

Just seen this today, it was just released here. I thought it was fairly good, but it was very-by-the-numbers for a Tarantino film.

I didn't take issues with alot of the stuff, it was basically what you'd expect from one of his films. Certain scenes that border on self-indulgence, in other words lasting a little bit longer than needed. Dialogue scenes that go on a bit too much and don't advance the plot, some pretense to justify excessive use of the n word and the ending was almost too predictable.

It's what I expect from one of his films and I normally love it, this though was missing a spark. It wasn't one of his better films, but it was still a Tarantino film I guess :shrugs:.

^This about nails it for me. Not saying it was bad by any means, but it kinda falls into the "Jackie Brown" category of "yeah, it was a Tarantino film." Thank the god for all that hype about the leaked script

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Thought it was fantastic. Better than Django and Bastards for sure.

I'll have to check it out again. It was a little long, and uncomfortably brutal at some points, but the first and second acts of the film had that classic Tarantino style

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I've watched it 4 times now. Seemed to get better on rewatch. I missed a lot. Still not sure about the red jelly bean.

When the Domergue gang showed up at Minnie's, they shot her through the jellybean jar, blowing it up. That's why there's a bean on the floor and an empty space on top of the cabinet.

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I've watched it 4 times now. Seemed to get better on rewatch. I missed a lot. Still not sure about the red jelly bean.

When the Domergue gang showed up at Minnie's, they shot her through the jellybean jar, blowing it up. That's why there's a bean on the floor and an empty space on top of the cabinet.

Yeah, it's Sam Jackson's character understanding that something is amiss in the cabin. It also foreshadows the guy hiding under the floor.

I just love it, it's a slow and careful character study, then becomes a classic 'Clue' style murder mystery, then dissolves into mass violence and panic. The movie tells a really gritty and nihilistic take about what happens when you take a handful of people in a broken and emotional country(just slightly after The Civil War) and shove them in a cabin together.

It highlights the really shitty and cynical parts of the American West, and what loneliness, desperation, and survival does to people, and the disgusting lengths they will go to keep themselves alive.

The Revenant essentially tells a similar tale, but it's a story of the disgusting toll survivalism takes on a person, with a more honorable, and less outwardly nihilistic approach.

The Revenant ends with Glass getting revenge for his sons murder, accepting that judgment is reserved for a higher power, and realizing that his pain won't end, not matter how great and brutal his survivalist journey was.

Hateful Eight ends with two characters brutally hanging the person who caused their imminent death. They're both dying, and Sam Jackson openly uses that as an excuse to brutally murder and enjoy the death of another human being, and we do too, because our two 'heros' are the only characters in the movie we can relate two, because they were the only bystanders in the movie. The Hangman and everyone else all picked a side in the plot twist of the movie. Everyone makes a decision on or against the side of Daisy Domergue except Sam Jackson and the Sheriff, who we are forced to root for even though they are both awful and do terrible brutal things

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It also captures the lie of the American dream, showing the lengths to which Sam Jackson's character would go to just make himself equal in the eyes of others, and the whole film ends on the note of him reading the letter from Lincoln, which was an elaborate hoax he divised just to give himself the opportunity to be proven equal by whites, and how awestruck even the most radical and hateful of the racist South were in the presence of a relic by Lincoln. The American Dream is just as much a beautiful and saintly hoax as the Lincoln letter, and the film goes to great lengths to justify that.

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