Nicklord Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, default_ said: I believe a better term to qualify them is "pop rock" or something. No. They're a rock band with some pop singles. I'll throw some more songs just for fun This is not how a pop rock band sounds like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMtq-wdpblo Edited May 16, 2018 by Nicklord 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Order of Nine Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 They are trying to rock, I'd give em a step above some band like Marron 5 who people insist to me are rock. But I'd still say it's more like pop rock like the type of rock you would see on a wholesome family program like the voice. I still remember back in the late 80s when people insisted to me Guns was metal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Order of Nine Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 15 minutes ago, default_ said: I believe a better term to qualify them is "pop rock" or something. That's fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 22 minutes ago, default_ said: I believe a better term to qualify them is "pop rock" or something. Me too, same COLDPLAY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Order of Nine Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Order of Nine said: I'll check it out in a bit. First reminds me of Radiohead, the overhead mics on the drums seem way to hot, but possibly helps it to rock a little. Bands like this, Marron 5, the killers, Coldplay, radiohead that type of thing it's just quirky pop that trys to rock but never fully takes flight inmho. Outta that batch I'd say the killers rock the most cause thier drummer actually creates that energy. I can get into Radiohead and the killers I love ok computer and the killers first release, but each are more easy listening pop more then they could ever care to admit Play this track before SOYL and I'm sure you'll notice the energy level difference. Edited May 16, 2018 by Order of Nine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Order of Nine said: I just strongly disagree they are rock. I suppose Brian Johnson solidified them as a rock band when he jammed with them. They just don't have a rock band energy or attack to me. I think you need to listen to some of the music they released earlier on, or just watch a few clip of them playing live. They are fairly heavy in places, and from what I've been told they are fantastic live. If we're calling U2 rock, then we're definitely putting Muse in the rock category. Even Muses later material is rock, even if it is a bit heavier on synths and keys... kinda like another band we all know and love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 3 hours ago, default_ said: I believe a better term to qualify them is "pop rock" or something. Pop-rock is Bon jovi, Nickleback. Muse are closer to alternative rock because they mix old with new. I'm not a Muse fan though, but I've heard a lot of them over the years and it's hard to deny that no 1. they are good at wha they do 2. they certainly can get loud like the best of them. I'm not saying they can "out-rock" Metallica or any full on hard rock / metal bands, but they do a good job of bridging the gap for people who aren't into the heavy heavy side of music. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Do I hear some NIN in Muse too? dunno... Im always hearing NIN everywhere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Just now, killuridols said: Do I hear some NIN in Muse too? dunno... Im always hearing NIN everywhere I hear it in the way they heavily process the instruments, not so much their songwriting BUT my knowledge of both bands is limited to their singles so I'm no authority Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tom2112 said: I hear it in the way they heavily process the instruments, not so much their songwriting BUT my knowledge of both bands is limited to their singles so I'm no authority hehe, me too, but sometimes the less you know the more you grasp some things that the ones who are detail-oriented do not see because they are much focused on the micro. They sound similar to Sigur Ros too (well, in my ears ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeADog93 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 4 hours ago, Order of Nine said: I just strongly disagree they are rock. I suppose Brian Johnson solidified them as a rock band when he jammed with them. They just don't have a rock band energy or attack to me. Listen to this and then come back and tell me that they're not rock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted May 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2018 Quick question- Easy Lover by Phil Collins.... Rock or no? I figured we're already so far off the reservation, it couldn't hurt to ask. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 1 hour ago, killuridols said: hehe, me too, but sometimes the less you know the more you grasp some things that the ones who are detail-oriented do not see because they are much focused on the micro. They sound similar to Sigur Ros too (well, in my ears ) I agree with this. 38 minutes ago, RussTCB said: Quick question- Easy Lover by Phil Collins.... Rock or no? I figured we're already so far off the reservation, it couldn't hurt to ask. Definitely rock, that main riff! the great punchy verse AND that solo. It's got that typical motown/soul influence that Phil seems to leans towards but it's rawkkk! none the less. yeah! I love that song 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, Tom2112 said: I agree with this. Definitely rock, that main riff! the great punchy verse AND that solo. It's got that typical motown/soul influence that Phil seems to leans towards but it's rawkkk! none the less. yeah! I love that song Side note- I once watched Bumblefoot play the whole song and sing it at the same time lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Just now, RussTCB said: Side note- I once watched Bumblefoot play the whole song and sing it at the same time lol. Ha! I'd love to have seen that! next time he does a clinic near me I'm gonna request this. I think he knows every song ever, it's really hard to stump him! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuriousStyles Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 1 hour ago, RussTCB said: Quick question- Easy Lover by Phil Collins.... Rock or no? I figured we're already so far off the reservation, it couldn't hurt to ask. If Easy Lover is rockin' enough for Double Dragon, it's rock enough for me! Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Tom2112 said: Ha! I'd love to have seen that! next time he does a clinic near me I'm gonna request this. I think he knows every song ever, it's really hard to stump him! I seriously tried to stump him once over the course of about 6 hours and it just couldn't be done lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 18 minutes ago, RussTCB said: I seriously tried to stump him once over the course of about 6 hours and it just couldn't be done lol I tried to get him to play My world, he just laughed... does that count? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 37 minutes ago, Tom2112 said: I tried to get him to play My world, he just laughed... does that count? I'd count it lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NostalgiaGoddess Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 I listened to it on Spotify while waiting for my dad to pick me up from college. I was pretty much excited throughout the song, I loved how energetic it was. Can't wait for more unreleased tracks (or hopefully some new songs) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklord Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 1 minute ago, tremolo said: Why do people make the association that distorted guitars and-or hard-hitting drums are all it takes to define what is rock? Muse is pop as fuck with some rock-sounding tunes. The Killers are pop as fuck too. Coldplay doesn’t even qualify as music. Did you listen to a single Muse video we all posted so far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) ...but does it djent? Edited May 17, 2018 by soon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 34 minutes ago, tremolo said: Why do people make the association that distorted guitars and-or hard-hitting drums are all it takes to define what is rock? Muse is pop as fuck with some rock-sounding tunes. The Killers are pop as fuck too. Coldplay doesn’t even qualify as music. Why? Because you don't like them? They're a hell of a lot more genuine than the landfill of bands who cover their arms in tattoos, put hoops in their ears, wear flat-brimmed caps, scream and shout about how individual they are, whilst doing nothing original or remotely alternative, while EVERYONE else they know and play with sound identical. Maybe Muse, Killers and Coldplay aren't your musical taste - but they're all bands with a unique sound and identity that aren't following the crowd. Good luck to them and their fans. Edited May 17, 2018 by allwaystired 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stress Fracture Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 I think Muse (dubstep) and Coldplay (pop duets with Rihanna) did follow the crowd. Never far away from the dreaded millennial whoop either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Stress Fracture said: I think Muse (dubstep) and Coldplay (pop duets with Rihanna) did follow the crowd. Never far away from the dreaded millennial whoop either. I'd say both are unique bands though - in that there's no one that sounds like either of them really. Both bands have also moved their sound on continuously - which I have to admire. I have no desire to hear Muse's foray into dubstep, or a duet with Rihanna of course! I just think it's harsh to run these bands down when there are so many 'rock' bands who are the most boring, dull, unimaginative fuckers you can imagine, claiming not to be, yet offering nothing to the contrary. Having tattoos and claiming to be 'hardcore' and all that crap is now about as 'different' as reading Harry Potter. Edited May 17, 2018 by allwaystired 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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