Rovim Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 (edited) CD is the best rock album in the last 10 years.Amen! 10 years? What rock album better than Chinese Democracy was released 11, or 12 or 13... years ago? @groghan - the only thing i disagree wth you about in your post is that CD was the best rock album in þhe last 10 yrs.Axl wishes his guitarists could come up with half the amount of good riffs slash comes up with - and whoever said it was write, axl hasnt written a good vocal/lyric since uyiHmmm... don't know about that. Catcher's vocals and especially the outro vocals are great imo. Better's vocals too, Street Of Dreams, just to name a few.Slash came up with many cool riffs post Guns. Slither, By The Sword, Anastasia... Honestly, most songs on Contraband have a badass riff, and even the Snakepit material which im not a fan of at all contained some awesome riffs. Edited July 2, 2013 by Rovim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shades Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Slash basically has no talent as a song / riff writer.. hence he has bounced around in club bands since leaving guns.... great guitar player though, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetness Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Slash has a ton of fantastic riffs post GNR imoSlither, just like anything, sucker train blues, ghost, anastasia, halo, the last fight, fall to pieces, serial killer, shots fired, tons more and that's blot even counting 5 o clockYes.You could also ask the question, ''Is it possible that Axl hasn't had any great lyrics since old GNR because he's not working with Izzy and Slash anymore?'', as Axl's post Slash lyrics have been very poor (exception being, Oh My God).Both of these posts, /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotgunblues1978 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Riffs have never been Slash's problem. However, riffs alone don't make a great song. Slash is not a natural (like Izzy) or interesting (like Axl) songwriter. The old GnR group worked so well because Izzy was great at laying out the basic framework of a song, Slash was great at coming up with big riffs and solos, and Axl was great at creating vocal melodies and bringing it all together. I think they've all retained their strengths. Personally, I'm more interested in Axl's music (rare as it has been) because I find his songwriting and sense of melody more appealing without the other old GnR elements than I find Slash's riffs or Izzy's songwriting on their own.The main gripe I have with them is quite opposite. With Slash, I think he's largely avoided pushing himself since leaving GnR and stuck within his comfort zone. With Axl, the problem is that he can't just trust himself and release his music; if he'd released 3 or 4 albums since 1997, he (and his music) would not be judged so harshly. CD could've come out in 2002 (or 2003 or 2004) largely the same as it was, minus Ron's parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I would say it is possible, especially since anyone GNR related, whether it be Slash, Axl, Duff, etc. have not done a single thing that can match up to what they did together. In my opinion of courseSlash's solo material overall is a bit underwhelming to me but he can still belt out great solos and occasionaly it all comes together. He has had plenty of great songs post-GNR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Riffs have never been Slash's problem. However, riffs alone don't make a great song. Slash is not a natural (like Izzy) or interesting (like Axl) songwriter. The old GnR group worked so well because Izzy was great at laying out the basic framework of a song, Slash was great at coming up with big riffs and solos, and Axl was great at creating vocal melodies and bringing it all together. I think they've all retained their strengths. Personally, I'm more interested in Axl's music (rare as it has been) because I find his songwriting and sense of melody more appealing without the other old GnR elements than I find Slash's riffs or Izzy's songwriting on their own.The main gripe I have with them is quite opposite. With Slash, I think he's largely avoided pushing himself since leaving GnR and stuck within his comfort zone. With Axl, the problem is that he can't just trust himself and release his music; if he'd released 3 or 4 albums since 1997, he (and his music) would not be judged so harshly. CD could've come out in 2002 (or 2003 or 2004) largely the same as it was, minus Ron's parts. Fuck. I agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvH Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 A shame that "Ain't Life Grand ?" has been OOP for years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Slash has a ton of fantastic riffs post GNR imoSlither, just like anything, sucker train blues, ghost, anastasia, halo, the last fight, fall to pieces, serial killer, shots fired, tons more and that's blot even counting 5 o clockExactly.Been There Lately is a good fuckin' riff. Back and Forth Again, Beggars & Hangers-On.A shame that "Ain't Life Grand ?" has been OOP for years now.Yeah, good song! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 As early as 95 when the first Snakepit album came out, he kept making great riffs. That kept going into Snakepit II, VR, and the current solo stuff. Don't worry about the riffs, they're there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaida Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 (edited) Anastasia = Slash on form..thinking back. The first Snake-pit album is just great. Edited July 6, 2013 by vaida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Yeah, Snakepit I was a good album, I never understood the negative reception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Slither and Anastasia have great riffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 ..thinking back. The first Snake-pit album is just great.There are some pretty good Slash moments all over that album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA_0013 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Yeah, Snakepit I was a good album, I never understood the negative reception.I don't think the reception was negative - it just wasn't the euphoria of UYI. I think any album that came out once Guns split would have struggled.But now the dust has long settled, and I give that album a spin - I appreciate what a great record it actually isLA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 True, and all the UYI euphoria was due to how good AFD was. They rode the AFD popularity wave pretty much 'till they stopped playing in 93. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 True, and all the UYI euphoria was due to how good AFD was. They rode the AFD popularity wave pretty much 'till they stopped playing in 93.While I agree with this, I can't help but think You Could Be Mine and November Rain did wonders for how UYI was recieved. I mean, you can't deny the hits were there for it to stand on it's own.Without the 'right' singles, UYI would have never been as big as it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 But now the dust has long settled, and I give that album a spin - I appreciate what a great record it actually isYeah, it is a great record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmapelian Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Yeah, Snakepit I was a good album, I never understood the negative reception.Probably cause axl wasn't singing on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 The best way to describe Snakepit I is snore-core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUnderScott Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Slash has come up with plenty of great music and cool riffs in the last 10 - 15 years. His solos are amazing and his talent seems endless at this point in time. He's also been very productive which is fantastic. Wish someone else was the same... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turn_It_Up Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Always On The Run such a cool riff. Would be great to see him add some more funk like that occasionally... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Diet Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I mean, Slash came up with the Sweet Child O' Mine riff, but it was Izzy who saw potential in that and Axl who turned that into a song.Is it possible that Slash often comes up with incredible riffs, but thinks they're too lame, and as Izzy is not there anymore to warn him, he just scraps'em? no, cuz he came up great riffs after GNR anywaySlash basically has no talent as a song / riff writer.. hence he has bounced around in club bands since leaving guns.... great guitar player though,lol you are so wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONEZY Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Slash has a distinctive sound. When I hear a song with him in it I recognize that it is Slash. Sure it would be better for all of us (most of us) if Slash/Izzy and Axl would get locked in a room and come up with some great stuff. But those days are long gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmapelian Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 let's put it this way - slash has come up w/ may more killers riif and songs than axl has since they parted ways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 let's put it this way - slash has come up w/ may more killers riif and songs than axl has since they parted waysSlash wrote many great riffs since he left Guns, but I think Axl wrote better songs. (by himself or with others)Chinese is just stronger as an album to me compared to what Slash came up with if you treat it as an Axl solo record.Contraband was strong with many great riffs and solos, but every song has the same structure and the material hasn't really aged well imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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