dalsh327 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 The whole quote for those interested. He starts talking about when the next Tool album will come out:"It's just out-of-control amazing [the next Tool album]. And what is really nice now, you don't have to be in a hurry to make a record now. Because people don't buy it. There is no record shops. So why the fuck put a record out? Just do what you want to do. And that is nice. It works both ways. People don't want to buy it, so you don't have to put it out. And when we do, we just relax and take our time...just like Guns, we don't care. We go out and play songs that people know, but we're not knocking ourselves out to release music. There's no need to that now, it's not the time and place."This is so dismissive of your hardcore fanbase though. Okay so it's not as large as it was circa 93 but it's still there. Other established bands recognised this. The industry has changed but what Pitman is saying is a version of Naomi Campbell's ' I don't get out of bed for less than $10000'. Other bands of the same era at least acknowledge the fans that made them rich and famous in the first place and in return those fans are happy to pay for deluxe remix albums, dvds and pretty much anything else they throw their way. In the age of the internet there will always be downloaders but Axl is already rich and new music would still make money even if it's not nineties level dosh. If this really does boil down to money it makes me wonder if previous rumours about financial difficulties have legs otherwise why constantly piss off your fanbase over it. Pitman also saw the crap Axl had to go through for years. It's more "we can take our time and not have the record company breathing down our neck". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUNNER PT Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Pittman is fckn right, you download motherf@k'rs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfierose Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 The whole quote for those interested. He starts talking about when the next Tool album will come out:"It's just out-of-control amazing [the next Tool album]. And what is really nice now, you don't have to be in a hurry to make a record now. Because people don't buy it. There is no record shops. So why the fuck put a record out? Just do what you want to do. And that is nice. It works both ways. People don't want to buy it, so you don't have to put it out. And when we do, we just relax and take our time...just like Guns, we don't care. We go out and play songs that people know, but we're not knocking ourselves out to release music. There's no need to that now, it's not the time and place."This is so dismissive of your hardcore fanbase though. Okay so it's not as large as it was circa 93 but it's still there. Other established bands recognised this. The industry has changed but what Pitman is saying is a version of Naomi Campbell's ' I don't get out of bed for less than $10000'. Other bands of the same era at least acknowledge the fans that made them rich and famous in the first place and in return those fans are happy to pay for deluxe remix albums, dvds and pretty much anything else they throw their way. In the age of the internet there will always be downloaders but Axl is already rich and new music would still make money even if it's not nineties level dosh. If this really does boil down to money it makes me wonder if previous rumours about financial difficulties have legs otherwise why constantly piss off your fanbase over it. Pitman also saw the crap Axl had to go through for years. It's more "we can take our time and not have the record company breathing down our neck".I can appreciate that to some extent as others such as Trent Reznor have spoke about their experiences but those others do still seem to be getting on with stuff a little better. I guess they don't live on Axl time though ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Pittman is fckn right, you download motherf@k'rs.Maybe a few years ago. People are buying music, it might be in lesser numbers, but they're listening to albums on Spotify and Pandora. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfuckinga Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Who honestly gives a fuck about what Chris Pittman has to say about the next GN'R record though. He probably knows just as much about it as we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugachev Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 GNR is done, Slash won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapitch_77 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 GNR is done, Slash won.Keeping the name added a lot of pressure on Axl's shoulders. I think he didn't really realise that until it was too late to change his mind. The others just have to do whatever they want to do... Axl probably wanted to create something great but you can't duplicate what the real band could achieve. Chemistry is not something you can control and say "Oh I'll get this guy from this band and that guy from that band and this guy... that'll sound great". Doesn't work like that at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 There is a distinction between fans and concert goers although obviously they overlap. Taking your time is fair enough but they really do stretch it to the limits. Managing to get the live dvds out would have gone a long way to appease fans. Generally I'm one of those people that is hopeful of seeing a new album by the end of 2014 but they really don't help themselves sometimes.What hes saying seems to be a positive spin on the label saying theres no point. They sell 300k in the US. That 3 mil dollars. So the labels indifference means theres morw time for artists to do what they want. To keep people happy they will have tour like hell. But right now they seem happy to take a break. Maybe the label will put a Best of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThinkAboutYou Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I think Pittman wants to create music his a creative guy. I've listened to him talk on the subject a few times I understand where his coming from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rckn Posted August 18, 2013 Author Share Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) Does somebody actually believe, that there is material for a cd?20 yrs is a long time and they all are getting older.I´m sure, that Pitman is not making decissions, but heis delivering the ideas that he is surrounded. Edited August 20, 2013 by rckn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Fuck you, Chris Pitman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvH Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Fuck you, Chris Pitman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 For the love of god, someone just leak all the CD II songs.Atlas Shrugged, The General, Berlin, Zodiac, Jackie Chan, Soul Monster, Seven, fuck it leak them all!We are never getting those officially released to fuck it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOSIER GUNZ Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 It would be cool to see one of those songs on iTunes soon.I can think of a couple hundred thousand that would get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roush Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 my collection is not complete until i have all 35 stephanie seymour piano ballads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuanVictor Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Pitman on twitter today:CPitmanofficial: hi Ronnie, all is good, but not too silent,...were back in studio making new records...cool things happening! http://pic.twitter.com/RxsoMuIQDO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31illusions Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 For the love of god, someone just leak all the CD II songs.Atlas Shrugged, The General, Berlin, Zodiac, Jackie Chan, Soul Monster, Seven, fuck it leak them all!We are never getting those officially released to fuck itLOL. Concerning Pittman. He doesn't make the decisions but yes, he's just expressing what he hears from Axl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlinkafayette Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 guy is a fucking idiotPut out new music to draw NEW fans inMany current bands are doing a hell of a lot better than Guns, and they still put out records regularly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicrawker Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 (edited) Pittman is a nobody...just another talented hired hand in Axl's tribute band.......when Axl barks he jumps.......... Edited August 19, 2013 by classicrawker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rckn Posted August 20, 2013 Author Share Posted August 20, 2013 Does somebody actually believe, that there is material for a cd?20 yrs is a long time and they all are getting older.I´m sure, that Pitman is not making decissions, but heis delivering the ideas that he is surrounded.Correction, there is material, but I don´t know about quality. (what we have heard) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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