Jakey Styley Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I can't say anything negative about him as a human and neither should anyone here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
there is no dana only zool Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I think Pitman's added effects are cool as hell and his last solo material, Sextapes, is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceguy Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Pitman/Tobias are GN'R.Just imagine reading this is 1991. Pitman? Tobias? No one would have believed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 This thread has been made so many times before. I think it boils down to the older fans who really want GnR to be a organic, straight forward rock band with just the essentials and those who are more receptive to the newer songs and approach. We all love the classic line-up so we're all appreciative of that. You can't really deny his presence on Chinese songs though, he's critical on those songs. There's some interesting synth going on behind a lot of the old songs which I think does add something.I just wish Axl had of released more, I bet Pitman's all over Soul Monster, Zodiac etc.If anyone has any doubt about his musical talent, check out the Lusk album. Free Mars.I'm an "older fan" and was/am open to the supposed "industrial" direction (or whatever) Axl was going to take GNR in, I was all for stuff like Silkworms and OMG and "the freak show"...but no I'm not really into all that ending up being Pitman and his sub bass / smearing audio shit over AFD songs at live gigs.I'd love to hear his awesome contributions to the bizarre, awesome new material he came up with Dizzy, Paul, Robin, Tommy, Bucket, Freese and Brain...hearing him play sub bass or a fucking tambourine on you could be mine? not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvH Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I have none because he's useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumblefeet Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 (edited) You can clearly hear him play ground notes on Shackler's and on the chorus of Sorry as well, plus doesn't he also control the click track or is that someone else? Edited April 13, 2014 by Bumblefeet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nulla Lex Ink. Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I think he's an integral member in the new songs. Unfortunately though, the new songs make up 1/8 of the setlist on most nights, if that, so in a live setting where mostly songs that predated his membership are played, he's pretty useless. You could say the same thing about Dizzy and everything before Use Your Illusion I and II, and arguably with some of those songs as well. Hell, you can even say the same thing about Finck, and later Ashba, cause honestly most of the songs could fair pretty well without a third guitar player, and did so years prior to the three guitarist lineup.That being said, if more new material would be released, or if they'd just play more Chinese Democracy songs during a live show, I think both men would be key members to the lineup. But then there's the question of if they'd deserve full membership or not. Should they be full time members, or just people that go on tour with the band, while everything else is handled by the core band, that being Axl, Dizzy, Bumblefoot, Richard, Tommy and Frank. Actually, even Dizzy could be relegated to just a touring member. Mind you, I'm not saying he should, but he could be, since I think Axl is a competent enough keyboard player to accomplish many of the melodies the band has done, at least in a studio setting.Boiling that down in a nutshell, I think that with the current condition of the band's live performances he's unessential to have as a full time member and would better serve as touring personnel, playing on songs where his parts are necessary, and then with ones where he's not necessary, doing something else, like being a roadie or technician or something along those lines. But if the band changes and makes Chinese Democracy half their set and adds in some new songs that absolutely require his presence? Sure, he'd be worthy of full membership then.Also, not sure if this is the right place to bring it up, but I still find it hilarious how Axl said in that one interview, when asked who'd be fired first, he responded "Probably Chris." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stella Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 (edited) I've honestly never figured out why he's there onstage. Edited April 13, 2014 by stella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 What the hell does he do when Jungle, ISE, Brownstone, Estranged, Don't Cry, Nightrain etc are playing? In fact, what does Dizzy do obv Estranged he's on the keys but c'mon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I think Billy Howerdel and Chris Vrenna had contributed a lot of the "electronics" sound before Pitman joined. Keyboards aren't the only thing he plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumble's Bridge Pickup Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 He's funny to watch and fits the over-the-top style of the band 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanudo19 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 he was useful 14 years ago, not anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Jesus Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Pitman was fired along time ago. He just kept on showing up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Seems to have some musical talent and songwriting skill here and there. But I don't care much at all about the things (if any) he adds to GnR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 He's essential to the new sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOLGER Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Plays some essential tambourine too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 His most memorable contribution to GNR= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumblefeet Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 LOLBy the way, what do you guys make of the way he has his keyboard positioned for the current tour, it makes no sense whatsoever to do this unless you only have one or two keys to hit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbhutto Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 (edited) Maybe he's just like Axl's security blanket.EDIT: wtf why did I say comfort blanket originally lol Edited April 15, 2014 by jbhutto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russel Nash Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I get the Pitman jokes, but he's no joke. He's all over CD, and he's a key part in the live sound. Also he seems to be one of those guys that is very high in spirits, good vibes for everyone. The soul at the party. A real rockstar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trqster Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I'd be OK with Pitman being a contributing recording studio member of nuGn'R, but pretty much a dead weight on live touring... The same applies to that 2nd lead guitar player - such a waste of space and so confusing for the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfierose Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 The burning question I want to know is...is Axl donating his cast off hats to Chris? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 The guy has been in the band longer than all the classic line up except captain ahab lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadcaplaughs Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 A quick look at the Chinese Democracy credits shows he is probably one of the most essential members in regards to new music.As for his live performance, this is all we need to remember. The man is a living legend and the only member of the band who truly rocks.If anyone has a picture of Pittman rocking the hell out of that towel during Bridge School, please post it. I also suggest watching that performance of "Rockin' in the Free World" should be required viewing for any GN'R fan. You can literally see Chris slink his way to the front of the stage, stand next to Neil Young, and then decide, "fuck it Ill sing." It was more exciting than anything Axl did either night. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I kinda liked him until that stupid interview where he says people don't buy albums so GNR doesn't care about releasing them. Stupid guy, average to bad musician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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