ManetsBR Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 (edited) It's not Guns N' Roses. It sounds like Guns N' Roses because the guy who wrote, plays piano and sings on that album used to write, play piano and sing in Guns N' Roses too. Of course it sounds like it is, that's pretty obvious. That's it. Edited August 5, 2014 by ManetsBR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 There's definitely parts of old GNR on CD. Sometimes it's close to copy n paste. People are distracted by the sound of it I think. Sometimes I think it's the old cords played backwards by different guitarists. I really want to play YCBM intro backwards to see if it sounds like Shacklers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoGer99 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 What did Mr Rose say once ?I doesn't sound like Guns N'Roses. ..but its got a GN'R feeling. .or something like that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYWIFEMYLIFE Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I didnt wait for years for an album sounding exactly like the ex-albums. CD has satisfied me in that sense. Would there be a better album with the ex line up? Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trqster Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 CD = Bloated Gn'R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 It reminds me a lot of parts of the Illusions. With so many years between it is only natural it would evolve into something different. I feel the music changed more from AFD to UYIs than from UYIs to CD, yet more years passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvH Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 This Chinese Democracy review threads suck, constant reviewing of a 2008 album because of nothing new is very sad.We can close the thread now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 This Chinese Democracy review threads suck, constant reviewing of a 2008 album because of nothing new is very sad.We can close the thread now.Or you can just choose to stop reading it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvH Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 This Chinese Democracy review threads suck, constant reviewing of a 2008 album because of nothing new is very sad.We can close the thread now. Or you can just choose to stop reading it.You mean this one or the 4000 other weekly topics trying to reevalutate ChiDem misunderstood significance in the grand scheme of the history of music ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 This Chinese Democracy review threads suck, constant reviewing of a 2008 album because of nothing new is very sad.We can close the thread now. Or you can just choose to stop reading it.You mean this one or the 4000 other weekly topics trying to reevalutate ChiDem misunderstood significance in the grand scheme of the history of music ?This one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercool Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 (edited) that's the feedback I had about CD from a non-gnr fan, but who listens to rock/metali disagree. cd doesn't sound like guns. they are two different bands. Edited August 5, 2014 by supercool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 that's the feedback I had about CD from a non-gnr fan, but who listens to rock/metali disagree. cd doesn't sound like guns. they are two different bands.But Axl is a big part of the Gn'R sound, just like Slash, Izzy, Duff, and to a lesser extent Steven were. So it does sound like Guns in places imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 that's the feedback I had about CD from a non-gnr fan, but who listens to rock/metali disagree. cd doesn't sound like guns. they are two different bands.But Axl is a big part of the Gn'R sound, just like Slash, Izzy, Duff, and to a lesser extent Steven were. So it does sound like Guns in places imo.Shut up. Too reasonable.Although I'd probably throw a "lesser extent" on Duff too, except for a couple songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 There are 4 or 5 songs on CD like Mov Rain or estranged. Add If the World and Madagascar as Axls cenematic ballads. Better is like SCOM played by a NIN guitarist. Sorry is like a grunge power ballad version of Don't Cry. There's just not that much space for it not to sound like GNR. With the rest Axl is doing his rage lyrics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 (edited) that's the feedback I had about CD from a non-gnr fan, but who listens to rock/metali disagree. cd doesn't sound like guns. they are two different bands.But Axl is a big part of the Gn'R sound, just like Slash, Izzy, Duff, and to a lesser extent Steven were. So it does sound like Guns in places imo.Shut up. Too reasonable.Although I'd probably throw a "lesser extent" on Duff too, except for a couple songs.Together, Duff and Steven, as a rhythm section were crucial to the sound. Almost like one person. As a songwriter, Duff was never great, but he had his moments and his arrangements made many Guns songs work. Edited August 5, 2014 by Rovim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 that's the feedback I had about CD from a non-gnr fan, but who listens to rock/metalso I guess axl's voice and music arrangements are what identify gnr. like many others band though.People REALLY need to stop making excuses for this piss-poor album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 that's the feedback I had about CD from a non-gnr fan, but who listens to rock/metalso I guess axl's voice and music arrangements are what identify gnr. like many others band though.People REALLY need to stop making excuses for this piss-poor album. Axl was going through some stuff. Please understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Chinese Democracy taken by itself as a piece of music is a great record for me, convoluted, confused, bloated(heh), intriguing, dynamic... it has a couple of noticeable flaws but also several strengths running through it. The layers inflate some tracks to a pointlessly blurry degree, there are few decent riffs - Better, CD, TWAT and Riad are noteworthy, the lyrics are quite poor for Axl's usual standard, lack of aggression - this is Axl Rose after all. The variation is wonderful even though it could do with two more rockers, the vocals are stupendous, the solos are high class and Slash is not missed it's Izzy more than anyone. TWAT, Catcher In The Rye, Prostitute, Street of Dreams, This I Love, Sorry are all 10./10 songs. Is it congruent to the resources and time it took to create, hell fucking no, is it a GNR record? No, it's an Axl Rose interpretation of how he wanted GNR to sound if he was surrounded by servants and not equals. Are you looking forward to another new GNR record? Exuberantly... but he seems to have not learnt he don't need 10 years or endless tinkering or isolation from the other guys to conjure up another decent record. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Chinese Democracy is full of good-great songs, but the versions that made the final cut suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Nah, songs just aren't good enough. There's no great secret to why the album is what it is. Sure, lots of production issues, but there are only a few decent songs with mostly mediocre to bad songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Better, IRS, The Blues, Catcher, Riad, Prostitute- IMO as good as any "modern" rock songs, just presented in a piss poor form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I'm starting to agree with those who say TWAT is not that great aside from bucket's solo. Leaving Better as the only good song on the entire record. CD is just a bad to mediocre album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intercourse Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 CD is the aural equivalent of Elvis at the end of his career - its all still in there but looking a fucking shambles from indulging in too much of the good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 (edited) I would say there's 14 great songs. But the 90s/nu metal styles just aren't as commercial as 80s hard rock. If you let Bucket and Finck rape SCOM it turn out like Better. Instead of Slash solos you'd get a Pitman synth breakdown with Axl screaming Where we go to to!!!. Just like how Dj "Livin the Dream" Patience solo. Suddenly it's not so classic and everyone is weeping into their pints of real classic rock ale. It's thin line between rock nirvana and the dollar store. Edited August 5, 2014 by wasted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 that's the feedback I had about CD from a non-gnr fan, but who listens to rock/metalso I guess axl's voice and music arrangements are what identify gnr. like many others band though."That sounds like GNR with another singer"That's the feedback I had about It's 5 o'clock somewhere from a non-gnr fan, but who listens to rock/metalso I guess Slash's guitar and music arrangements are what identify gnr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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