Len Cnut Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 That is the end of Labour for a considerable time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) Baaaaaaahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhhahahahahaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edited September 12, 2015 by Dazey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 You know what the astonishing thing is? The Blairites are now closer to the Tories ideologically, than to the political beliefs of their own leader - very much so infact! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Baaaaaaahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhhahahahahaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracii Guns Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Didn't follow this too closely as I'm not a Labour member (though almost am). Happy enough with this result, though I miss Ed Miliband being in my life. In the same way I miss Ugne from Bake Off. Baaaaaaahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhhahahahahaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ?Don't worry, you need to have attended private school to be able to translate Tory gibberish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted September 12, 2015 Author Share Posted September 12, 2015 Baaaaaaahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhhahahahahaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ?Jeremy Corbyn is way too left wing to be successful in England, which pleases McLeods upwardly mobile sensibilities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) It can only benefit the Conservatives who only need to sit back with their feet up and watch Labour tear themselves apart in a fratricidal war between Corbyn's supporters and the Blairites. As I said before, the Blairites are now far closer to the Tories ideologically. PSHeck, Corbyn makes Ed Balls look right wing and Ed Balls is not even considered a 'Blairite'!! Edited September 12, 2015 by DieselDaisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted September 12, 2015 Author Share Posted September 12, 2015 Ed the Balls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Balls was on Test Match Special this summer, interviewed by Aggers during lunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Corbyn is essentially a 'Bennite', i.e. hard left. He is recycled Tony Benn. In that, he is actually to the left of Old Labour while he makes New Labour, both Brownites and Blairites (not that there is much ideological difference), look like the Nazi party; people like Miliband, Jacqui Smith and Hazel Blears have absolutely nothing in common with him. I cannot see any other outcome than a Labour party tearing itself a part and consequentially awarding the Tories control of the Commons for the considerable future - certainly until he is ousted.Unless of course Corbyn suddenly discovers some hidden centerist tendencies we all didn't know about!A person that far left is un-electable in England. It is as simple as that. I mean, 'reopening the mines'. Can you imagine modern Brits working in mines today? They would be wilting in the grime and heat, complaining that they cannot get a mobile signal or broadband down in the mine shafts haha, complaining that working down mine shifts ''infringes on their yuman rights'' and their ''elf n' safety'' etc Basically everybody got rich and fat during the Thatcher/Blair. There is no going back to the militancy and class hatred of the mid 1970s. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted September 12, 2015 Author Share Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) Last sentence sums it up really. Paragraph rather. Edited September 12, 2015 by Len B'stard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunko12345 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 I just watched Ken Livingstone getting interviewed and he could not be happier, which says it all really, and then the footage shot to a group of people with placards singing "and we'll keep the Red Flag flying high" David Cameron must be pissing himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake-Pit Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Thoughts?Who is Jeremy Corbyn?Like I'm supposed to have heard of him, I'm 28! - Who is he? - John Major was the first politician I ever heard of, back when he was the PM, John Corbyn? - Strikes me as Ken Livingstone and stuff like that, but IDK.Maybe Tony Blair was trying to warn us, so he doesn't face war crime charges which'll probably happen if Corbyn comes to power!? - and they're the same party! ? -, IDK, seems like a radical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted September 12, 2015 Author Share Posted September 12, 2015 Thoughts?Who is Jeremy Corbyn?Like I'm supposed to have heard of him, I'm 28! - Who is he? - A wrestler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunko12345 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Last Night Of The Proms is on tonight. It would be interesting to do a survey of how many people are there who also went to Wimbledon, The Chelsea Flower Show, The Henley Regatta, The Oxford and Cambridge boat race and an England Rugby match at Twickers. Should be ppv I reckon because it's a load of fucking bollocks from where I'm sitting I'm going out for a fag. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake-Pit Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Thoughts?Who is Jeremy Corbyn?Like I'm supposed to have heard of him, I'm 28! - Who is he? -A wrestler.Well Winston McKenzie ran for Parliament with UKIP here, so, sure; why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until the Labour Party is dead!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) Returning to the fact he is far left of Old Labour itself, I'm sure he would have been in the Communist party if he had been active in the 1920s or 1930s. Then again, Tony Benn was Labour and routinely despised by the rest of his party (''..he is a king of ageing perennial youth...he immatures with age'' - Harold Wilson). If you look at the Labour leaders who obtained the Premiership - MacDonald, Attlee, Wilson - none of them could exactly be described as loopy left (or even 'to the left' of their own party), and then again, if you look at the New Labour project you immediately surge further right.As I said, he is a Bennite. It would be the equivalent of Tony Benn heading the Labour party instead of Wilson. The difference is, now we are obsessed with centerist politics, the era of touchy feely Tories, beige Pimms drinking Labour MPs and identikit PM candidates; all politicians are obsessed with the middle ground and establishing this middle class - uncommitted, non-extreme, appealing to everybody - image. Corbyn, I expect, is not that.In a way, he is the antithesis of Blair, but the problem here is, many in his party are advocates of Blairism and the population of England seemed to have moved on from class divisive politics. In his defense, he does have at least two policies which immediately appeal to English voters,- Withdrawal from the EU- Abolishing tuition feesThere is also an anti-American implication (pro-Palestine, withdrawal from NATO) which may appeal to those fed up with the thoroughly one-sided 'special relationship'. Edited September 13, 2015 by DieselDaisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 now we are obsessed with centerist politics, the era of touchy feely Tories, beige Pimms drinking Labour MPs and identikit PM candidates; all politicians are obsessed with the middle ground and establishing this middle class - uncommitted, non-extreme, appealing to everybody - image.the population of England seemed to have moved on from class divisive politics.Reminds me of this:http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x17b3nc_the-century-of-the-self-eight-people-sipping-wine-in-kettering-4_news(think I may have posted it before) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 Everyones criticism appears to be 'i dont think he'll make it'...that aint an answer to whether you think he has good ideas or will make a good job of being PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I hope he becomes Prime Minister. Then if Sanders becomes President then two of the greatest nations on earth will have socialist leaders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Everyones criticism appears to be 'i dont think he'll make it'...that aint an answer to whether you think he has good ideas or will make a good job of being PM.I find his beliefs atrocious so my answer to that is self-evident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I hope he becomes Prime Minister. Then if Sanders becomes President then two of the greatest nations on earth will have socialist leaders. Sanders isn't a socialist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I reckon we can borrow money for 50 years so just turn the UK into ballistic missile base to control Iran. Put the bunny back in the box culture will continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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