t-p-d-a Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 it's not the drumkit it's the beard beards doesn't fit Guns N' Roses 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 He's a thumper not a swinger. Which isn't a bad thing, some music needs thumpers...and some music needs swingers. And some bands, like GnR, need a thumper who can swing. Which is why Matty ain't the best for GnR, Frank ain't the best for GnR, Brain is good for GnR and Stevie is PERFECT for GnR. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, Rovim said: Swingers n' thumpers. What are your feelings about synthmasters? Pitman or Mellisa? Take them out back and shoot them in the back of the head. I'm all for synth, don't get me wrong. In the bands that are good for em I'm all for em. But Guns ain't got no mileage outside of a somewhat purist rock n roll...and that shit don't work over there. Which i know to some is all the more reason to stick em in but it is what it is. There's too much thats good already going on in Guns to add synth, it's like adding a dollop of mayo into the greatest soup recipe ever. Mayo is wonderful but you don't need it in your soup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holographic Universe Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) The only opinion on Frank's sound that matters is Duff, Slash, and Axl. Everybody here who has an issue with his sound or tempo are just bitching about non issues. If the band -composed of old class musicians- thinks Franks playing is suitable for GNR then so should you. And, if you dont then you can continue to bitch at the expense of your time and energy. Edited January 6, 2017 by The Holographic Universe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeez Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) Didn't he just recently switch to DW? I'm pretty sure he was using Pork Pie before (with GNR). Anyway, there is nothing wrong with his set-up. The video in the first post isn't representative at all, as it's a completely different kit (in sizes and obviously tuning). Ferrers' current kit is ideal for the music they play. That said, I'm not a huge fan of his Sabian cymbals - especially the hi-hat sounds too "wet" and splashy. I prefer a more crisp sound. Edited January 6, 2017 by Jeez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeez Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) 27 minutes ago, The Holographic Universe said: The only opinion on Frank's sound that matters is Duff, Slash, and Axl. Everybody here who has an issue with his sound or tempo are just bitching about non issues. If the band -composed of old class musicians- thinks Franks playing is suitable for GNR then so should you. And, if you dont then you can continue to bitch at the expense of your time and energy. What a strange post. The fans of their music shouldn't have opinions about their sound? Of course we should. I don't see how Axls', Slashs', or Duffs' opinion should change ours. Tell me, did you like Ashba because Axl must have found his sound suitable for GN'R? And for the record, opinions do matter. GN'R wouldn't be anywhere if we - the fans - didn't like what we heard. Edited January 6, 2017 by Jeez 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holographic Universe Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Jeez said: What a strange post. The fans of their music shouldn't have opinions about their sound? Of course we should. I don't see how Axls', Slashs', or Duffs' opinion should change ours. Tell me, did you like Ashba because Axl must have found his sound suitable for GN'R? And for the record, opinions do matter. GN'R wouldn't be anywhere if we - the fans - didn't like what we heard. The constant expression of this particular opinion is pointless and well past its expiration date. Ashba kept that band touring at the point in the band's history and since he was only playing other guitarists parts I was content with his inclusion in the band. And, the band would be fine if every member on this forum died tomorrow, so your opinion has no impact on this band at all. Spoiler Spoiler Edited January 6, 2017 by The Holographic Universe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 1 hour ago, The Holographic Universe said: The constant expression of this particular opinion is pointless and well past its expiration date. Ashba kept that band touring at the point in the band's history and since he was only playing other guitarists parts I was content with his inclusion in the band. And, the band would be fine if every member on this forum died tomorrow, so your opinion has no impact on this band at all. Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents By your logic there's no need for a fan forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeez Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Holographic Universe said: The constant expression of this particular opinion is pointless and well past its expiration date. Ashba kept that band touring at the point in the band's history and since he was only playing other guitarists parts I was content with his inclusion in the band. And, the band would be fine if every member on this forum died tomorrow, so your opinion has no impact on this band at all. Oh, I see why you're confused. You actually think these opinions are exclusive to this forum. And if you don't think such opinions matter you should read up on how this tour is doing compared to the previous ones (in terms of income, attendence etc.). Most of the content on this forum, or any fan forum for that matter, is pointless. Lastly, I don't see how my opinion must have an impact on the band for it to be valid. Edited January 6, 2017 by Jeez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I am now losing brain cells reading this thread....holy WTF? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holographic Universe Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Jeez said: Oh, I see why you're confused. You actually think these opinions are exclusive to this forum. And if you don't think such opinions matter you should read up on how this tour is doing compared to the previous ones (in terms of income, attendence etc.). Most of the content on this forum, or any fan forum for that matter, is pointless. Lastly, I don't see how my opinion must have an impact on the band for it to be valid. Franks drumming and any opinions do not affect attendance at the concerts. Are you making correlations between the ticket sales and the consensus opinion of fans? Yeah, I'm confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeez Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Holographic Universe said: Franks drumming and any opinions do not affect attendance at the concerts. Are you making correlations between the ticket sales and the consensus opinion of fans? Yeah, I'm confused. "If the band -composed of old class musicians- thinks Franks playing is suitable for GNR then so should you" If you still don't see how bizarre your logic is, I can't help you. If the Stones swapped Charlie Watts with Lars Urlich, would you expect their fans to applaud their decision because "old class musicians" approved him? Edited January 6, 2017 by Jeez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holographic Universe Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 4 hours ago, Jeez said: "If the band -composed of old class musicians- thinks Franks playing is suitable for GNR then so should you" If you still don't see how bizarre your logic is, I can't help you. If the Stones swapped Charlie Watts with Lars Urlich, would you expect their fans to applaud their decision because "old class musicians" approved him? Auto correct fucked with my words. I intended to write "world class musicians". I don't even know what old class would mean. My point is that if musicians of their caliber and considerable talent approve of him them just accept it. The band was fine without Steven and is now fine without Matt. They are both replaceable. Bitching about the drummer is pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 8 hours ago, tsinindy said: I am now losing brain cells reading this thread And nobody even noticed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Cavalerra Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Frank recently interviewed by Modern Drummer magz, he said that when Steven comes, they takes extended break to set up his drums before Steven slid in. He also said Slash and Duff like to hear a lot of hi-hat, quarters, and 8ths. He's hope if Guns continues in whatever form, he'll be part of of the recording process. And he's actually battling arthritic stuff on his left wrist and ankle. It's actually long ass interview you can find posted on other forum, i can't paste it here because the pic has watermark all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 3 hours ago, Len Cnut said: And nobody even noticed Obviously someone did.... 10 hours ago, The Holographic Universe said: Franks drumming and any opinions do not affect attendance at the concerts. Are you making correlations between the ticket sales and the consensus opinion of fans? Yeah, I'm confused. Your opinion probably doesn't....but Frank's drumming actually may affect attendance, you don't know that....neither do I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Magnus Cavalerra said: Frank recently interviewed by Modern Drummer magz, he said that when Steven comes, they takes extended break to set up his drums before Steven slid in. He also said Slash and Duff like to hear a lot of hi-hat, quarters, and 8ths. He's hope if Guns continues in whatever form, he'll be part of of the recording process. And he's actually battling arthritic stuff on his left wrist and ankle. It's actually long ass interview you can find posted on other forum, i can't paste it here because the pic has watermark all over it. What "Extended breaks"? i was at the Cincinnat show (you know the first time Adler returned) and it was a typical break between songs, there was no delay....at all. Edited January 6, 2017 by tsinindy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 13 hours ago, The Holographic Universe said: The constant expression of this particular opinion is pointless and well past its expiration date. Ashba kept that band touring at the point in the band's history and since he was only playing other guitarists parts I was content with his inclusion in the band. And, the band would be fine if every member on this forum died tomorrow, so your opinion has no impact on this band at all. Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Lucky for us your opinion doesn't have any impact on the band either. And Ashba decided to leave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Cavalerra Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 30 minutes ago, tsinindy said: What "Extended breaks"? i was at the Cincinnat show (you know the first time Adler returned) and it was a typical break between songs, there was no delay....at all. I don't know man, he didn't explain anything further, maybe it's just mere ten second longer than usual, with today technology changing some setup probably blazingly fast. What clearly stated it's something has changed to match Steven preferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, Magnus Cavalerra said: I don't know man, he didn't explain anything further, maybe it's just mere ten second longer than usual, with today technology changing some setup probably blazingly fast. What clearly stated it's something has changed to match Steven preferences. Yeah, it could have been something as simple as adjusting the height of his seat and shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 1 hour ago, tsinindy said: Obviously someone did.... Your opinion probably doesn't....but Frank's drumming actually may affect attendance, you don't know that....neither do I. Taken me off ignore already? I knew you loved me really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner55 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 On Monday, July 04, 2016 at 4:58 PM, comboguns said: I think Frank decision's to use a jazz drum kit is a bad choice, it dont fit with the guns n roses sound. Frank is a good drummer, but he is playing with a jazz drum kit, this is like slash playing with a stratocaster, it will not fit with the gnr sound. Then how did Steven manage to make Frank's kit sound so much better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Its like you hand over any guitar to Ashba, the sound will be shit. Same goes with Frank. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 31 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: Taken me off ignore already? I knew you loved me really Yes, that's it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, tsinindy said: Yes, that's it Hey...who loves ya baby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts