Zurimor Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 On 9.7.2016 at 11:05 PM, action said: all of this sounds like a bad football team blaming their humiliating loss on the state of the field (which is of equal stupidity, since the opposing team plays on the same field) It's completely OT, but I have to say something to this. If one team is used to that, the other team not, it's not completely stupid. There were some soccer teams in the past which were famous (or maybe infamous) for the bad state of their lawn, it was a clear advantage when those teams played at home since their opponents weren't used to those conditions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 57 minutes ago, lucasnesposito said: You're right. Why not have an Tama? Something that sound strong Why did you Revive this thread and this lame ass theory? It isn't the kit dude. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIST Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Ferrer ruins EVERY song. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlsFavoriteRose Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 5 hours ago, Zurimor said: It's completely OT, but I have to say something to this. If one team is used to that, the other team not, it's not completely stupid. There were some soccer teams in the past which were famous (or maybe infamous) for the bad state of their lawn, it was a clear advantage when those teams played at home since their opponents weren't used to those conditions. exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucasnesposito Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 4 hours ago, tsinindy said: Why did you Revive this thread and this lame ass theory? It isn't the kit dude. Excuse me, I'm not reliving an thread from five years ago, it's a few month ago. And I'm not doing offtopic. Ferrer use an drum that not sound like an band of Rock and Roll, it's reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlsFavoriteRose Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 18 minutes ago, DIST said: Ferrer ruins EVERY song. best post i've read on this topic! short, sweet and to the point 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) 48 minutes ago, lucasnesposito said: Excuse me, I'm not reliving an thread from five years ago, it's a few month ago. And I'm not doing offtopic. Ferrer use an drum that not sound like an band of Rock and Roll, it's reality. Ugh....read the thread dude, it's not the kit. I never said you were off topic. I said it's not the kit, which if you read the thread you'll understand why. Edited January 4, 2017 by tsinindy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double talkin jive mfkr Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 frank gives me the impression through his drumming alone and the things that he has said that he is not only a non musician of sorts but he is arrongantly playing the tunes as he wishes and has no ear for real music 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 2 hours ago, double talkin jive mfkr said: but he is arrongantly playing the tunes as he wishes !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendestroi95 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 9 hours ago, tsinindy said: Why did you Revive this thread and this lame ass theory? It isn't the kit dude. it is the kit, but he's also not the fit for GNR. When they put Adler there, it only improves the drumming, the sound stills terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 56 minutes ago, rendestroi95 said: it is the kit, but he's also not the fit for GNR. When they put Adler there, it only improves the drumming, the sound stills terrible Disagree (on the sound being terrible when Adler plays the same kit), but OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) I like the guy but hes definitely the weak point in the band. On my youtube channel and facebook groups I run hes the one everyone complains about and most are just casual fans. But he has got alot better from them Vegas shows ill give him that Edited January 5, 2017 by Gibbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cosmic Ted Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 He is not Adler and that is the problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Gibbo said: I like the guy but hes definitely the weak point in the band. On my youtube channel and facebook groups I run hes the one everyone complains about and most are just casual fans. But he has got alot better from them Vegas shows ill give him that Agree with all of this... Out of the 3 replacements I would pick Fruity Pebbles and Fortus to go before him. I would have never thought that in a million years after the Vegas shows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Tom-Ass said: Fruity Pebbles Good one! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderram Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) 17 hours ago, Zurimor said: It's completely OT, but I have to say something to this. If one team is used to that, the other team not, it's not completely stupid. There were some soccer teams in the past which were famous (or maybe infamous) for the bad state of their lawn, it was a clear advantage when those teams played at home since their opponents weren't used to those conditions. Not only that, but poor conditions can level what might have been a drastic talent disparity otherwise. Imagine playing the same 6-string guitar as SLASH. Then imagine playing the exact same guitar but that only has one string. SLASH will probably still play it better, but the degree to which he does would be drastically decreased thus making any competition that much closer than it should have been. People that use the "same conditions" argument just aren't seeing the entire picture. Edited January 5, 2017 by thunderram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stress Fracture Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I preferred Frank on the previous tours when he was free to do his own thing. Same with Brain. It's nice to get new interpretations of overfamiliar songs. This is one of the few fan bases that wants to hear the songs played exactly as they were on record 30 years ago (but also complains about the setlists always being the same). Frank has had to compromise his style for this tour and it's shown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salx Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 From what I've heard of Frank I think he uses drum samples. Every time he hits a drum or cymbal a drum sample is triggered and that's what you hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) Sorum/Adler is always going to sound better with Slash and Duff. Its got nothing to do with Franks tone he just cant cover the old stuff the same. I don't have a problem with the CD songs, I said to Sorum how on the UYI tour how his drums sounded flat on the recordings and he totally agreed whether it sounded like that at the show I don't know I never went Edited January 5, 2017 by Gibbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabian11 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) This is my first post but I can shed some light on this subject. I've been playing drums for 25yrs and have studied various styles. I actually met Frank back in 2011 and we talked drums a bit. He stated that he has a New York style of playing and is bringing that type of feel to GNR. The NYC style is more of a backbeat fusion funk type feel being more in the groove. To me you cant have that NYC style with GNR you have to be out front solid and Rockin like Adler has. It's not that Franks a bad drummer it's that he doesn't play with the right feel for GNR. It's kinda like having Neil Peart drum for GNR he is the best drummer in the world but his feel and style of playing wouldn't be right. Frank was a pretty cool dude and I honestly wanted to tell him to find a fusion band where he could shine because to me you can't play a groove with GNR you have to play with emotion and a rock feel poor Frank just doesn't have that fell. And Axl if your reading this give me a shout I'll show em how its done Edited January 5, 2017 by sabian11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, sabian11 said: And Axl if your reading this give me a shout I'll show em how its done Ffs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabian11 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Ffs Haha! I'll show you too Zoso do you play I'm not too far from you and if you play anything I'd be willing to jam sometime. Especially since your into GNR I love to rock out!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) 29 minutes ago, sabian11 said: This is my first post but I can shed some light on this subject. I've been playing drums for 25yrs and have studied various styles. I actually met Frank back in 2011 and we talked drums a bit. He stated that he has a New York style of playing and is bringing that type of feel to GNR. The NYC style is more of a backbeat fusion funk type feel being more in the groove. To me you cant have that NYC style with GNR you have to be out front solid and Rockin like Adler has. It's not that Franks a bad drummer it's that he doesn't play with the right feel for GNR. It's kinda like having Neil Peart drum for GNR he is the best drummer in the world but his feel and style of playing wouldn't be right. Frank was a pretty cool dude and I honestly wanted to tell him to find a fusion band where he could shine because to me you can't play a groove with GNR you have to play with emotion and a rock feel poor Frank just doesn't have that fell. And Axl if your reading this give me a shout I'll show em how its done And, you know, there's that whole not-keeping-a-consistent-tempo-when-doing-a-fill thing. Or that time at Coachella where he messed up the rest of the band during the breakdown of WTTJ by going back into the chorus with a 6 count instead of a 4 Edited January 5, 2017 by Mendez 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson87 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) On 7/5/2016 at 7:40 AM, Malcolm Malcolm said: Brain is the best drummer GNR ever had. Brent Fitz is ok. Frank is doing alright, but I'd have liked to have seen Matt get the job. Something tells me that Matt would've made an issue out of playing the two or three CD songs in the set. But I see your point, it would've been cool to see him behind the kit Edited January 5, 2017 by Gibson_Guy87 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Jay Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Worst thread ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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