Graeme Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 As if the Home Office wasn't already completely dehumanising to people who've come here from around the world, now they just get to be heartless bastards to people from European countries too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Just now, Graeme said: As if the Home Office wasn't already completely dehumanising to people who've come here from around the world, now they just get to be heartless bastards to people from European countries too. But she is so sexy whilst doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 minute ago, DieselDaisy said: But she is so sexy whilst doing it. I find being a good person attractive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunko12345 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Graeme said: I find being a good person attractive. Broadly speaking I agree with you on most things Gra but on this I'm not sure if that's true. I'd probably (definately) shag a fit Nazi. Edited February 19, 2020 by spunko12345 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 minute ago, spunko12345 said: Broadly speaking I agree with you on most things Gra but on this I'm not sure if that's true. I'd probably (definately) shag a fit Nazi. Is she wearing the uniform? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunko12345 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dazey said: Is she wearing the uniform? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucketfoot Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 It all seems quite sensible and reasonable to me. You want to come here to work and you meet the criteria put in place.... welcome. You don't meet the criteria? Best of luck elsewhere. Europeans and those from the rest of the world on an equal footing. No doubt the Remainiacs will have their knickers well and truly in a twist about it, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, bucketfoot said: It all seems quite sensible and reasonable to me. You want to come here to work and you meet the criteria put in place.... welcome. You don't meet the criteria? Best of luck elsewhere. Europeans and those from the rest of the world on an equal footing. No doubt the Remainiacs will have their knickers well and truly in a twist about it, though. We have criteria here. The Sussex's, especially the prince, dont really meet Canadas immigration requirements. No joke. Like, I don't know the ins and outs, but he could eventually be granted some degree of citizenship/status but it'll be an uphill battle. (except they'll prolly just wave him on in though innit) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 21 minutes ago, bucketfoot said: It all seems quite sensible and reasonable to me. You want to come here to work and you meet the criteria put in place.... welcome. You don't meet the criteria? Best of luck elsewhere. Europeans and those from the rest of the world on an equal footing. Makes perfect sense until you realise that the healthcare, agriculture and hospitality sectors for a start are heavily reliant on people who won't qualify under the new regs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, soon said: We have criteria here. The Sussex's, especially the prince, dont really meet Canadas immigration requirements. No joke. Like, I don't know the ins and outs, but he could eventually be granted some degree of citizenship/status but it'll be an uphill battle. (except they'll prolly just wave him on in though innit) Corrected on stipulation by HM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucketfoot Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Dazey said: Makes perfect sense until you realise that the healthcare, agriculture and hospitality sectors for a start are heavily reliant on people who won't qualify under the new regs. How did those sectors survive before the vast influx of foreign/cheap labour from 2004 onwards? I don't really buy that argument to be honest. There are a lot of employers who have taken the piss for far too long, paying shit wages for the cheapest labour they can get. Also, the rise in employers using agencies and putting workers on zero hour contracts and not offering the security of a permanent contract and a decent wage is a disgrace. If they can't/won't offer the basics in terms of employing a workforce, they don't really deserve to be in business as far as I'm concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, bucketfoot said: How did those sectors survive before the vast influx of foreign/cheap labour from 2004 onwards? I don't really buy that argument to be honest. There are a lot of employers who have taken the piss for far too long, paying shit wages for the cheapest labour they can get. Also, the rise in employers using agencies and putting workers on zero hour contracts and not offering the security of a permanent contract and a decent wage is a disgrace. If they can't/won't offer the basics in terms of employing a workforce, they don't really deserve to be in business as far as I'm concerned. No you're right. We should immediately revert to whatever we were doing 16 years ago. All these people taking the piss should immediately start paying fruit pickers £15 an hour, all the feckless UK doleys will immediately come off benefits and we'll all be more than happy to pay a fiver for a fucking cabbage. Rule Britannia! Edited February 19, 2020 by Dazey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucketfoot Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dazey said: No you're right. We should immediately revert to whatever we were doing 16 years ago. All these people taking the piss should immediately start paying fruit pickers £15 an hour, all the feckless UK doleys will immediately come off benefits and we'll all be more than happy to pay a fiver for a cabbage. Rule Britannia! I'm pleased you've come round to my way of thinking, took you long enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, bucketfoot said: How did those sectors survive before the vast influx of foreign/cheap labour from 2004 onwards? I don't really buy that argument to be honest. There are a lot of employers who have taken the piss for far too long, paying shit wages for the cheapest labour they can get. Also, the rise in employers using agencies and putting workers on zero hour contracts and not offering the security of a permanent contract and a decent wage is a disgrace. If they can't/won't offer the basics in terms of employing a workforce, they don't really deserve to be in business as far as I'm concerned. You're trusting the Tories to try to rectify that? Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucketfoot Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 12 hours ago, Graeme said: You're trusting the Tories to try to rectify that? Good luck. No, I trusted them to deliver Brexit and that was the first step in turning the ship around. One thing you can rely on from the Tories is their unquenchable thirst for power and their ability to be completely ruthless and opportunistic in their pursuit of it. While Labour flailed around, insulting their core voters and set themselves on a course ultimately aimed at overturning a democratic vote, the Tories sniffed blood and went in for the kill. Now they have a foothold with the working classes, Labour are completely and utterly fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Labour exist in some weird London bubble, completely oblivious to the reasoning why they were walloped at the general election. Their leadership race has become obsessed with gender, trannys and so forth. Dawn Butler, deputy hopeful, claimed on television that ''babies are born without a gender''! Chuck in Nandy wanting to abolish the monarchy and you have a genuine vote winner haha! Long-Bailey is basically Corbyn with a blond wig. She is completely unrepentant about Corbynism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Labour exist in some weird London bubble, completely oblivious to the reasoning why they were walloped at the general election. Their leadership race has become obsessed with gender, trannys and so forth. Dawn Butler, deputy hopeful, claimed on television that ''babies are born without a gender''! Chuck in Nandy wanting to abolish the monarchy and you have a genuine vote winner haha! Long-Bailey is basically Corbyn with a blond wig. She is completely unrepentant about Corbynism. They really don't help themselves do they? Edited February 20, 2020 by Dazey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Dazey said: https://twitter.com/zarahsultana/status/1229459634559291393?s=20 And here we are, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: And here we are, I just don't get how these people expect to get back into power. It's not that I necessarily disagree with certain points on principle I just think you pick your battles when you're in the kind of position you're in right now. As bad as it may sound the electorate at large couldn't give a shit about these issues. These are the policies you look at when you've already won a governing majority. They're not the policies you campaign on. Edited February 20, 2020 by Dazey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dazey said: I just don't get how these people expect to get back into power. It's not that I necessarily disagree with certain points on principle I just think you pick your battles when you're in the kind of position you're in right now. As bad as it may sound the electorate at large couldn't give a shit about these issues. These are the policies you look at when you've already won a governing majority. They're not the policies you campaign on. Do you think a child is born without gender then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 minute ago, DieselDaisy said: Do you think a child is born without gender then? Technically if you define gender as a social construct then yes but that's not what she said. That's all semantics though. She actually said a baby is born without sex which is completely different and makes her a moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Just now, Dazey said: Technically if you define gender as a social construct then yes but that's not what she said. That's all semantics though. She actually said a baby is born without sex which is completely different and makes her a moron. I just think the whole thing is lunacy and should be binned along with gender free toilets and other manifestations of Islington politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: I just think the whole thing is lunacy and should be binned along with gender free toilets and other manifestations of Islington politics. What does it matter? It is irrelevant. I agree with Dazey, moronic to focus on that while in opposition, because people like you @Diesel seem to get so riled up about it. It doesn't matter. The economy matter, education matters, innovation matters, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Just now, DieselDaisy said: I just think the whole thing is lunacy and should be binned along with gender free toilets and other manifestations of Islington politics. I'm not saying I give it a second thought in general I'm just saying that you can put a case for gender being different from biological sex if you're that way inclined. Personally I get scared when the answer to any question isn't yes, no or a number which is why I didn't study the humanities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: What does it matter? It is irrelevant. I agree with Dazey, moronic to focus on that while in opposition, because people like you @Diesel seem to get so riled up about it. It doesn't matter. The economy matter, education matters, innovation matters, etc. It rather is though if lefty-lunacy consigns Labour to the dustbin of history and leaves the conservatives rather opposition-less. The big winner in this is the conservatives. Edited February 20, 2020 by DieselDaisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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