rocknroll41 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 10 hours ago, ChineseDemocracy2004 said: Loved it. I was overwhelmed by it and I'm looking forward to the next film. What do you mean by “next film” exactly? The Avengers films, as far as we know, are over. So I assume you mean another one of the future marvel films like Spider-Man Far From Home, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 2 hours ago, appetite4illusions said: Because I enjoyed Infinity Wars so much and the approach they took with it, I still think they should have made more of an effort to do a film that was actually about fighting Thanos. That's not what this was, it was about finding infinity stones. The problem is, they used that premise to do a "greatest hits" scenario where they return to past movies, hang out with ancillary characters and tip their hat to references far and wide. Only in the last act does the battle even begin and by then, it's almost too late to make it amount to anything but emptying the toy-box and having all the action figures fight. I guess it was enough to satisfy people but I was down for a film that was less about tying up every loose end and more about earning an epic victory. This is why I think taking the stones away from Thanos was a mistake - he became just another Vanilla villain after that and it hurt the great work they did building him into this walking juggernaut at the end of the last film. Yeah, I can relate to those sentiments. The first two-thirds of the movie just wasn't fun for me. It felt like a treasure hunt through rehashed scenes as a means of connecting previous stories with the overarching narrative. When they took out Thanos at the end I quickly thought, okay, so this will turn into a time travel saga. I guess I expected they would figure out another way of severing Thanos with the infinity stones but turns out time travel was the best they could come up with. The final sequence was glorious to watch, but as you mentioned, it kind of came a little too late. I also kept asking myself, "where's Captain Marvel?" Part of the problem with making a character too powerful, her presence would render the rest of the cast moot so they need to come up with an excuse to have her offscreen. I'll need to see it again before I make a final decision. Still a fun movie overall but not quite the one I expected after seeing Infinity War. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said: wow! I wouldn't be surprised if down the line another Avengers movies comes about with new younger actors playing the leads. It seems they are doing this with the X Men movies. A lot of the actors are younger now than the original ones. That's Hollywood, always want new and younger actors to play roles. Yeah, but I hated that most of the Avengers disappeared especially Grout. I love him! I am Grout Edited April 30, 2019 by luciusfunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontdamnmeuyi2015 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 17 hours ago, rocknroll41 said: What do you mean by “next film” exactly? The Avengers films, as far as we know, are over. So I assume you mean another one of the future marvel films like Spider-Man Far From Home, correct? I bet in years to come more Avengers movies come out with younger actors. But yeah, there will be a new Spiderman this summer and another Guardians of the Galaxy. I'm sure more Thor movies too. As long as their are fans and money is made, they will continue, I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontdamnmeuyi2015 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Did any of the theatres you guys went to have an intermission? I don't think I could sit for 3 hours. lol Although, the movie theatre I usually go to has recliner leather seats now. Still I've heard from friends that they cried and I really don't want to cry in front of people I don't know. I think I will wait for the blue ray and cry at home. Sometimes I really sob at things because it reminds me of loved ones I've lost and I can't stop. Either way, I will eventually see this movie for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 (edited) I know where I rank this amongst the other MCU films now: Guardians of the Galaxy Thor: Ragnarok Captain America: The Winter Soldier Captain America: Civil War Spider-Man: Homecoming Black Panther Avengers: Endgame Avengers: Infinity War The Avengers (aka Avengers: Assemble) Iron Man Ant-Man Ant-Man and the Wasp Doctor Strange Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2 Iron Man 3 Thor Captain America: The First Avenger Avengers: Age of Ultron Iron Man 2 Thor: The Dark World The Incredible Hulk Haven't seen Captain Marvel yet. Edited May 5, 2019 by rocknroll41 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Black Panther above Avengers 3 & 4? I need to go back and watch them all again before I can make a list. I want so much to like Thor: The Dark World, but I just can't. I still haven't sat through it all the way without falling asleep. I watched Doctor Strange again on Thursday and it still holds up pretty well for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLegend Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 They mostly blend together to me. Seen them all except Captain Marvel/Doctor Strange and Hulk. The series is fine, but there's no chance of me being able to list them in order or re-watching them. Thor: Ragnarok was easily the most fun for me and maybe Civil War 2nd? Homecoming was fun, but not as good. The Ant-Man films were fine, but nothing that stands out. Black Panther was good, but it still descends into a boring CGI mess like most. Then factor in the hype and cynicism surrounding it's Oscar nomination and being portrayed as one of the greatest films ever made. Age of Ultron was boring and the first Avengers films was fine (yet one of the most over hyped films of all time). I can't even remember the Iron Man films that well (which should say it all, though I enjoyed 3 the best). I do remember being bored by the first two Thor films and original Captain America. This film is just like Infinity Wars to me. It's fun, but the final CGI battle is a little too much Ready Player One. On 30/04/2019 at 3:55 AM, downzy said: I also kept asking myself, "where's Captain Marvel?" Part of the problem with making a character too powerful, her presence would render the rest of the cast moot so they need to come up with an excuse to have her offscreen. Like Superman in a Justice League film. You have to turn off your brain and ask why the other heroes are needed when you have someone who could pretty much do everything themselves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Black Panther gets a huge bump for solely due to the fact that the villain was, imo, written beautifully, and then protrayed even more beautifully by Michael B. Jordan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appetite4illusions Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 18 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said: Black Panther gets a huge bump for solely due to the fact that the villain was, imo, written beautifully, and then protrayed even more beautifully by Michael B. Jordan. That's what I heard everybody say in reviews. Then they went and named the character Killmonger (!)(?). I know we're dealing with comic book characters and they have origins in broad territories, but man, what an awful name. Like waving a flag and getting hit over the head with a hammer: "This is our villain! He has Kill and monger in the same name!" It's almost the same wink-wink as Apocalypse Now; naming the crazy surfing Lieutenant Killgore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appetite4illusions Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 2 hours ago, AtariLegend said: This film is just like Infinity Wars to me. It's fun, but the final CGI battle is a little too much Ready Player One. Dude, you speak the truth. That was on my mind every freakin' second of it. So much so that I could literally hear Dee Snider, plainly screaming "We're not gonna take it!..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 (edited) On 5/5/2019 at 10:42 AM, appetite4illusions said: That's what I heard everybody say in reviews. Then they went and named the character Killmonger (!)(?). I know we're dealing with comic book characters and they have origins in broad territories, but man, what an awful name. Like waving a flag and getting hit over the head with a hammer: "This is our villain! He has Kill and monger in the same name!" It's almost the same wink-wink as Apocalypse Now; naming the crazy surfing Lieutenant Killgore. The name Killmonger is only mentioned once as being an old military callsign nickname he had back when he was a black ops mercenary. For the rest of the film he is either referred to as Eric Stevens or N’Jadaka. Edited May 13, 2019 by rocknroll41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lies They Tell Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Here's my ranking of the MCU movies. (Only ranking the one's I've seen obviously) 1. Captain America: Civil War 2. Avengers: Infinity War 3. Ironman 4. Spiderman: Homecoming 5. Avengers: Endgame 6. Guardians Of The Galaxy 7. Ant-man 8. Black Panther 9. Thor: Ragnarok 10. Avengers: Age of Ultron 11. Ant-Man and the Wasp 12. Ironman 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseDemocracy2004 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 On 30/04/2019 at 3:08 AM, rocknroll41 said: What do you mean by “next film” exactly? The Avengers films, as far as we know, are over. So I assume you mean another one of the future marvel films like Spider-Man Far From Home, correct? Yeah. I was talking about Far From Home. Hoping to see that as soon as possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted June 1, 2019 Author Share Posted June 1, 2019 The highs of this movie probably make it my favorite MCU movie, even though its not as rewatchable as Civil War and Infinity War Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontdamnmeuyi2015 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 On 5/5/2019 at 9:05 AM, rocknroll41 said: Black Panther gets a huge bump for solely due to the fact that the villain was, imo, written beautifully, and then protrayed even more beautifully by Michael B. Jordan. I loved the fact that to me he really wasn't a real villain. I mean his dad was killed and he was left on his own. I understood why he was pissed off and wanted his place in their kingdom. Okay, he went about it wrong, but other men fought Black Panther, so why not him? Anyway, I liked how this movie didn't shy away that even though their kingdom was safe and happy, many other blacks were not and the dilemma of helping their own kind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklord Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) I watched those that came out before the first Avengers movie including that one and stopped cause they were progressively more boring for me to watch. I remember I saw that Taika Waititi (easily my favorite "younger" director) directed Thor: Ragnarok but I somehow forgot to watch it until a few days ago I saw that he's doing another one so I decided to finally do it and it was glorious. Like, I don't even remember the story but I loved how just bizzare and stupid it was, love that Thor became basically The Dude with muscles. It felt like an improv then I watched some BTS and basically a lot of it was. Jeff Goldbloom doing Jeff Goldbloom was great. Then I got hyped and wanted to see how they ended it and watched Infinity War and Endgame. The first one was good, it had everything one good comic movie should have and they prepared it really nicely for the ending. Theeen the Endgame, I thought it wasn't good at all. I don't like their big resolution, it just creates a lot of room for plotholes but I had no problem with that really. They handled it well enough. Good things were, ending fight was really good. Captain America was badass. Ironman doing the final blow was also good and felt satisfying. Professor Hulk was fun What I had problems with: They figured out way too easily how to travel through time. "I can't do it. That's stupid" /5 minutes later/ "There we go". I didn't like the death of Black Widow, it really felt cheap. Fat Thor was fun then his resolution was really fast and non believable. Captian Marvel was OP and they ignored her cause of the plot. We NEVER saw what a real world looks like now with the half of population gone. And genuinely I really didn't enjoy watching the movie, I didn't get immersed in and I was annoyed a lot because I didn't feel that the ending fight was earned, it felt like they got there cheaply Edited August 2, 2019 by Nicklord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 55 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 I wasn't a fan of this one. Once it went the time travel route, it lost me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 I’m glad it beat Avatar’s all-time record. Well deserved, imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontdamnmeuyi2015 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Got this movie on pre-order. Can't wait to see it in the comfort of my couch. lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F*ck Fear Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Once DC shit the bed with their universe, I started to lose interest in the genre. I did however catch Endgame a few days ago. Great way to end 10+ years of story. I've no interest in what's to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Waiting for it to get to Netflix to see it. Do I need to see Infinity War first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted August 8, 2019 Author Share Posted August 8, 2019 32 minutes ago, moreblack said: Waiting for it to get to Netflix to see it. Do I need to see Infinity War first? Itd be easy to get the gist without it but itd be way better of you did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F*ck Fear Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 On 2019-08-08 at 10:27 AM, moreblack said: Waiting for it to get to Netflix to see it. Do I need to see Infinity War first? I skipped both Ant Man & The Wasp and Captain Marvel, but I'd suggest watching Infinity War. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontdamnmeuyi2015 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 (edited) Got the Blue ray. Just have to find 3 hours to watch it! lol My daughter told me a lot of it, so I know who dies and other stuff, but I still need to watch it one day soon. I never watched man or wasp and ant nor Captain Marvel. All these movies are making me nuts. I didn't see the new Spider man, but I did like the other one. I hope they make another Guardians of the Galaxy. I love all those characters. Who knows? I did see Infinity Wars. Bought the DVD. It was good. Edited August 18, 2019 by dontdamnmeuyi2015 more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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