07/22/23 - Athens, GR - Olympic Stadium

[PatrickS77]

Just now, JimiRose said:

From Austria i guess you can drive to lots of different countries easy enough, you must be boarded by 6? bit harder and expensive from london!

Yeah. Not being on an island makes it easier for sure. Did a 3500 km roundtrip by car. Hollywood Vampires, Guns and Bruce Springsteen. 2 of those Vampires show got cancelled, which led to that last minute desicion major ride from Slovakia to the north of Poland. Exhausted as hell. But so worth it.

[nikosgnr]

To begin with, my apologies if my english are not so good..

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So, what a night! I want to give some kudos firstly to the band for playing in so much heat and to all of us who we're patiently waiting for hours. Even for us, greeks, the conditions were extreme. I've spent 4 bottles of water right on my head and body, probably 5 more for drinking it.

I've been saying this for sometime now and I was right. If you 're planning to see the band live, don't watch any of the clips in YT. It's just not the same!

Olympic stadium isn't famous for the acoustics. I was sceptical about this from the beggining and fortunately it was great! Sure there were some ups and downs but nothing special.

We arrived around 16:30, heat was insane and there were so many people already there. The doors opened at 17:15 and we managed to get in front of the stage.

We had people of all ages, so nostalgia did hit hard to many of us.. I've met a guy who saw them back in '93 in the same stadium and he was 18 back then. Now he was with his daughter, who had the same age as him in '93. 18! How cool was that?

When the band kicked off, I was in shock tbh. Even now that I'm writing down all this, feels surreal. I haven't realized it.. It needs time I guess..

Watching those 3 guys again side by side was like a dream. All of them had so many energy, especially uncle Ax who was running all the time the stage like a kid and he's 61. And again. He's 61 goddamnit! He was in a great mood just like in '06!

Duff is now the silent force of the band. Interacted with everyone, with us. Love the dude.

4tus is the best rhythm guitar GN'R ever had. Just like that.

As for Slash.. I know most of the people on the stadium came to see him. No words can describe him. He's in the top-3 of most dedicated guitar players EVER. When he plays the 6 string, he's 101% there. He's a BEAST. I've blown away. Everyone's blown away, so we wished him happy bday. What a moment right there! And it was the first time we get to see him smile!

I don't care what everyone says about Axl. We have a saying here in Greece about opinions (fellow greeks in this forum they get what I mean). Everyone has to understand he's 61, the "prime" days are over. Unfortunately he f@cked his voice once and for all with AC/DC and we have to live with that. But you have to admit that he's giving everything on stage, 101%. Therefore, the heat combined with humidity wasn't helping. Especially for him.

As I said he was in a great mood, joking about Slash on band introduction. Everyone literally was screaming Slash's name and he was like "yeah I think that's all etc."

He had some weak moments with Locomotive wich I wasn't prepared for it. Neither for Anything Goes (which is one of my favorite songs) in which he was great. I think they have to reconsider songs like Loco that  they need many breaths.

Everyone in the stadium was exstatic. Too many sing alongs and so much energy. We missed those guys...!

Anyone who came just to have some fun, he surely did.

Overall was a great experience. As I said to some friends, "Not In This Lifetime" for us got to be "Once In A Lifetime". I just hope the rumors not coming to europe for awhile will be just rumors.

 

 

Edited July 24, 2023 by nikosgnr

[Stay.Of.Execution]

34 minutes ago, colonizedmind said:

 

So do we have a best show of this run? I suppose the band are pretty tight most nights, so it comes down to which was Axl's best night? Glasto? Those that went to multiple nights and were actually there should be in the best position to answer, especially those that went to 7 shows, etc...

 

Only judging by the show itself, I would say Madrid. Longest show of the euro run, incredible twat performance by Axl.

[Amir]

28 minutes ago, JimiRose said:

From Austria i guess you can drive to lots of different countries easy enough, you must be boarded by 6? bit harder and expensive from london!

RyanAir/easyJet/WizzAir are your friend I remember back in 2010 I did London - Paris - Geneva - London for about £70. My most expensive flight this year by far was Paris -> Bucharest because it was on Bastille Day and last minute (144 euros), my other flights (London -> Paris, Bucharest -> London) were around £30. For Glasgow I braved a Megabus (£30 return), probably won't do that ever again  

Also AirBNBs are much cheaper on the continent than in the UK or the US.

[Coma16]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CvE3c0cuQqb/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

[JimiRose]

31 minutes ago, Amir said:

RyanAir/easyJet/WizzAir are your friend I remember back in 2010 I did London - Paris - Geneva - London for about £70. My most expensive flight this year by far was Paris -> Bucharest because it was on Bastille Day and last minute (144 euros), my other flights (London -> Paris, Bucharest -> London) were around £30. For Glasgow I braved a Megabus (£30 return), probably won't do that ever again  

Also AirBNBs are much cheaper on the continent than in the UK or the US.

I just paid £360 to fly to prague from london! summer holidays now and inflation, though if done well in advance could probably still find those low prices

[Gnrcane]

On 7/23/2023 at 6:52 AM, Live Like a Suicide said:

 

Why does it seem Axl has switched to the handheld train horn vs. the full sized one mounted on the stage?  Did somebody sue them like the stupid b that ruined the mic toss?

[PatrickS77]

10 minutes ago, Gnrcane said:

Why does it seem Axl has switched to the handheld train horn vs. the full sized one mounted on the stage?  Did somebody sue them like the stupid b that ruined the mic toss?

Well, it didn't work at the show in Bern and he used the handheld thing. I wonder if they left it off since then. They didn't mount it in Budapest either. Is it broke? Did the guy responsible get fired?

Edited July 24, 2023 by PatrickS77

[Blackstar]

18 minutes ago, Gnrcane said:

Why does it seem Axl has switched to the handheld train horn vs. the full sized one mounted on the stage?  Did somebody sue them like the stupid b that ruined the mic toss?

It didn't work one time, then it worked and then didn't work again, so Axl used the handheld one. Then he said the stage one was broken, so he would use the "backup" one.

That was the second time it didn't work :

 

 

[Lio]

3 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

It didn't work one time, then it worked and then didn't work again, so Axl used the handheld one. Then he said the stage one was broken, so he would use the "backup" one.

That was the second time it didn't work :

 

 

Poor guy  He seems completely lost.

[Blackstar]

Review on a Greek music site (in Greek):

https://www.rocking.gr/live/guns-n-roses-the-last-internationale-olympic-stadium-oaka-20723/41919

Translation:

Guns N' Roses, The Last Internationale @ Olympic Stadium, 22/07/23

The night the lion defeated the elephant

As much as we love the bands we have seen in our country in the last few years, from Iron Maiden to Arctic Monkeys, it is true that Greece hasn't seen a really big concert for a long time. Guns N' Roses' super-successful and huge all-around tour, with its impressive stage setup and the millions of people who have attended, is an international extravaganza. The fact that such a mega production has finally found its way back here again will hopefully mark our return to the concert map of this level.

Ever since Guns N' Roses decided to bury all of their hatchets in their old age and the core members (Axl and Slash, that is) patched things up again, their train has been on the rails and rolling. Certainly more professionally and probably better than ever, offering each and every night an enjoyable, at least three-hour setlist that tests the audience's stamina. You would think the cliché "well-oiled machine" was made for the particular group of musicians that now make up Guns N' Roses. The only factor that varies each night is the vocal shape Axl is in, but bear with me on that!

The half hour further shift in the schedule due to the extreme heat only troubled those of us who were already there early to slot in as close to the stage as possible. Refreshed with water provided by the security guards in front of the railings to anyone who asked for it, we saw The Last Internationale confidently step onto the huge stage of the Olympic Stadium at 7:30pm sharp. When you get promoted to the Olympic Stadium from the "Anaireseis" festival, the primary fear is that you might get swallowed up by the enormity of it all.

That wasn't even remotely the case. Starring the core of the band, namely vocalist and amazing performer Delila Paz and guitarist Edgey Pires, The Last Internationale spread their bluesy, '70s-influenced rock with ease and impressed us. Their sound was too clean and good and seemed to move a good portion of the crowd that had gathered at that time - mostly in the arena, as the stands were waiting for the heat to subside a bit so they could be occupied by their respective ticket holders.

In the soulful "Soul On Fire" Delila mentioned that The Last Internationale is an independent band that has neither a manager nor a record label. They do, however, have the admiration of various stars such as Tom Morello and Robert Plant, with whom they have worked with in the past. On "Hard Times" the versatile Delila picked up the bass, while Edgey picked up a guitar that had the words "Free Peltier" written on it. An obvious reference to Leonard Peltier, the man for whom Rage Against The Machine's "Freedom" is written.

Nearing the end, Delila took the band's photographer by the hand, got off the stage with her, climbed over the stage rail and came into the crowd to sing. After getting us all to sit down, she made us bounce like springs and jump around. Soon after, she jumped the railing again and crowd surfed, which I guess a large portion of the audience was not very familiar with, because we ended up being the few people who traveled with her in the first few rows. The Last Internationale's performance ended somewhere around three quarters of an hour in, revealing a band that didn't go unnoticed and made their mark. [PC].

A lot has been written about Guns N' Roses' concert in our country since its announcement, maybe too much. Again, this was to be expected, because there may have been several big concerts in our country this summer, but this one was the only ( if I may use the expression) "larger than life" show in terms of production, name, impact etc. Even the amount of "noise" (whining, doom and gloom) was to be expected. After all, was there ever a time when Guns were uninteresting, unexciting and tension-inducing?

Before we go on to talk about what happened in the 3 hours between 9 pm and 12 am on July 22, I'd like to make it clear that for some years now, personally, concerts held in large stadiums have not been my top choice. They may have an element of spectacle that comes from the size of the stage and the whole production, but they also have some given drawbacks. For example, not having the luxury of time and/or the physical stamina to arrive very early, one will logically be forced to watch the concert from a mid to long distance, occasionally seeing a small part of the stage and actually watching much of it from the screens.

At the same time, it is extremely difficult - almost impossible usually - for the attendees to share exactly the same experience, especially when it comes to the sound aspect of the concert. You will often hear different opinions from people who were in front of the stage compared to those who were back in the arena, or from people who were sitting too far to the side, or from those in the stands. Inevitably there will be more than one truth and they are all legitimate.

But let's start with some facts that are not open to multiple interpretations.

First and foremost, Guns N' Roses honor the large audiences that flock to their concerts with a satisfying, 3-hour show during which they give it their all on stage. There are no excuses like the age of the members or special circumstances, and in no way could what they do be described as a money grab. The show they put on in general, and the one we saw in particular, can only be described as utterly satisfying.

Secondly, as the wise Antonis Moustakas has been saying for many years, "In the beginning was the catalogue". Okay, he doesn't say it exactly like that, but you get the point. How many artists can afford to leave out songs like "Don't Cry" in a 3 hour show without anyone being bothered? How many bands out there can have songs like "Welcome To The Jungle", "Sweet Child O' Mine", "Civil War", "November Rain", "You Could Be Mine", "Patience" and "Paradise City" in their catalogue? Or their - now own - covers of "Live And Let Die" and "Knocking On Heaven's Door"? A few. And how many can dive into their lesser known songs and pull out a "Locomotive", a "Pretty Tied Up", an "Anything Goes" or a "Bad Obsession"? Even fewer.

Third, Duff may be indispensable and huge with his coolness, but at last night's show even the last non-believer probably bowed to Slash, and how great a guitarist he is. A guitar hero for all generations, a six-string god who seemed to embody that greatness that once made many of us, as kids, fans of Guns and rock music in general. At many times, and with all due respect to the rest of the band, the show seemed to be "Slash and the others" in terms of performance and substance.

Fourth, inevitably as we were in the jungle, there was an elephant to talk about. And that is Axl's voice. And if Axl's performances on "Appetite For Destruction", "G N' R Lies" and "Use Your Illusion" put him in the book of the best rock voices all at once, well, this was not the Axl we saw live, vocally speaking, of course. Sure, he couldn't sing like there's no tomorrow like he did 30 and 35 years ago, but it's now sadly true that he almost ruins some songs with his voice. The majority of the "Appetite For Destruction" era songs, in particular, where you struggle to understand how he performs them, while a song like the (much loved) "Locomotive", with its endless lyrics and need for breath, is like an exposure of what he can no longer support...

But is this the whole truth about Axl? No! Because there were quite a few moments when he was from decent to pretty good. On "Bad Obsession", "Chinese Democracy", "Live And Let Die", "Civil War", "Knocking On Heaven's Door", "Patience" and even "Paradise City", but especially on his -own- "November Rain", I was fairly to highly satisfied with his performance. And the above is no short list!

Also, I give him credit for giving it his all. Whether he's physically able or not, he runs the stage up and down as far as his legs will carry him, he performs each song more with his soul than with his voice, and he sweats every t-shirt (or shirt) from the many he changed during the show. And I side with those who would rather see Axl himself perform his songs than someone else with a voice in better shape...

... but at the same time it might be good to do something to improve that factor. Because, I have a suspicion that if a very large percentage of those in attendance would have second thoughts about seeing Guns N' Roses live again in the future, it would be because of Axl's performances of many favorite songs. And I don't know if his ego allows him to have more support on a vocal level (Melissa Reese does a good job but that's not enough on its own) or if he can change something else, but as much as the drive he puts out as a frontman keeps the energy level high, his vocal shortcomings are a hindrance. And it's a shame.

Because, other than that, the show Guns N' Roses put on was amazing to the point of being thoroughly enjoyable. In terms of length of time, number of songs... even the sound on most songs was super. Only on "Estranged" for some inexplicable reason they dimmed Slash's wonderful guitar and I was a bit put off, as it's my favorite Guns song. But it was enough for me to hear it live, with a decent performance from Axl.

The opening with "It's So Easy" was meek, but "Bad Obsession" was super. "Chinese Democracy" - which oddly enough was the only song played from the album of the same name - showed that that's where Axl's voice is now, while "Pretty Tied Up" was just OK. "Mr. Brownstone" had the groove we needed to sway and I enjoyed it despite the asterisks, while "Welcome To The Jungle" was the only song the crowd greeted with 2-3 flares. I think Bruce could have taken that much, too.

"Double Talkin' Jive" was fine and came wrapped up with a Slash solo before the show made its only dent song-wise with the two super-moderate new/old songs, "Hard Skool" and "Absurd". Apologies to those who disagree, but these are not Guns level songs and the latter seems to have a sneeze for a chorus.

"Estranged" was dope, despite the fact that some idiot lowered Slash's guitar while we wanted to suck in every melody. Nice Dizzy Reed on piano though.

As for "Live And Let Die", it was fantastically delivered and undoubtedly one of the highlights of the night in terms of performance, with "Rocket Queen" also being better delivered than I feared, always with the usual footnote.

"Down On The Farm," which represented "The Spaghetti Incident?", was brilliantly performed, whereas "You Could Be Mine" clearly gave Axl a hard time with the bridge part ("while you're breakin' down my back...") being so poorly delivered that I thought it might have been better left to the audience. However, Slash was a boss and didn't allow us to not enjoy this great song...

Duffman, who has always been the most punky and rockabilly of all, took over vocal duties on the cover of The Stooges' "T.V. Eye" and did a great job, giving Axl a couple of breathers to more comfortably perform "Anything Goes", one of the beloved, but often overlooked, songs from "Appetite For Destruction", which I personally enjoyed.

Then I think came the best part of the concert, first with "Civil War" being performed brilliantly by both Slash with his double guitar and Axl, with the audience getting more involved and being one of the best moments of the night, totally dedicated to Ukraine, even if no one had to say anything.

Then Slash - who one really couldn't get enough of - took his time and space for his solo, which led to "Sweet Child O' Mine" and the expected biggest sing along of the night, just before the grand classical piano was placed in the centre of the stage, and Axl and Slash gave us a gorgeous rendition of the legendary "November Rain", perhaps the highlight of the show.

After this magnificent trifecta, the blast from the past with "Reckless Life" - when they were still writing love songs, as Axl joked - was welcome, but again... the further back in time we go, the more the vocals become strained. As for the cover of "Wichita Lineman", it was unnecessary in my opinion, but some things will always be mysterious with this band.

I enjoyed "Locomotive" (which, if I'm not mistaken, was chosen over "Coma") only to a degree, singing its superb lyrics as much as I could, as, truth be told, it wasn't the most fitting choice for Axl's vocal state. He struggled much less on "Knocking On Heaven's Door", on several guitar parts of which Richard Fortus, who was generally very good, was given space to demonstrate his skills. He may not be Izzy (no one could be), but he fills the shoes of the role he's in just fine.

Heading towards the end, "Nightrain" was more than enjoyable and the performance was quite satisfactory, while "Patience" was one of the most beautiful moments of the night, being one of the most beautiful Guns N' Roses compositions, and it was supported as it deserved by everyone's performance and sung heartily by the audience.

Probably few people caught Axl's reference to the rest of the band as family, but everyone recognized how much things have changed when he asked the audience to sing "Happy Birthday" to Slash eight minutes before the date changed and that great guy with the afro hair, top hat and sunglasses turned 58. And he, in turn, after thanking the crowd somewhat humbly and awkwardly, led us to the closing of the night with "Paradise City", to which, to be honest, I expected a stronger reaction from the crowd, but possibly the energy after three full hours and so much heat had been largely exhausted. Always though, this is the perfect way to end a Guns N' Roses concert.

To sum up, we had the chance to see a great show. And I'm not (only) referring to its length. We saw Axl on the same stage with Slash and Duff, backed by very good musicians, performing songs that changed the history of rock music and possibly many of the lives of those in attendance. Notwithstanding any legitimate objections (we won't repeat them) partially diminishing the experience, they still provided an enjoyable show rather than a box-ticking performance with no need to gloss over any of their weak spots. Keeping in mind that a few years ago it seemed like a midsummer night's dream, we had the opportunity to experience a summer evening (in a heat wave) in Athens, enjoying these guys playing these songs together.

At one time Guns N' Roses were the greatest hard rock band on the planet. Today they are the greatest exponent of this music, and those of us who were at OAKA definitely saw a historic rock concert, which we will continue to talk about for a long time. Even if everyone will have a different truth to defend. [H.K.]

Edited July 30, 2023 by Blackstar

[nikosgnr]

 

Just a video of mine.

[PatrickS77]

11 minutes ago, Lio said:

Poor guy  He seems completely lost.

That poor guy. I saw him the first time in Oslo, when it was a festival and he set it up, right before GNR was supposed to play. While he was setting it up, I thought, what now? Will he just know it works or will he test it, with all the people there. Well, he told everyone cover their ears and did test it. 2 weeks later, I see them in Bern, it doesn't work and he goes pale and Gio comes over to console him. And then obviously the same shit again in Weert. Yeah, don't wanna be him. It used to work like a charm previously. In Budapest it wasn't even set up anymore.

Edited July 24, 2023 by PatrickS77

[Italian girl]

In Rome Axl talked and smiled to him .. he hasn't been fired

[PatrickS77]

1 minute ago, Italian girl said:

In Rome Axl talked and smiled to him .. he hasn't been fired

Before the pain train? What did he say?

[Blackstar]

Another review in the same vein as the one above about Axl's voice etc. (in Greek):

https://www.athinorama.gr/music/3019375/guns-n-roses-eixan-na-dosoun-liga-pou-omos-simainan-tosa-polla-gia-xiliades-kosmou/

A short and positive one from another music site:

https://www.hit-channel.com/guns-n-roses-apogeiosan-katamesto-oaka/252402

Some more reviews and reports from Greek news sites, all generally positive:

https://www.efsyn.gr/efsyn-city/synantiseis/398494_guns-n-roses-last-internationale-oaka

https://www.cnn.gr/style/politismos/story/374611/guns-n-roses-sto-oaka-idrosan-ti-fanela-me-trioro-rok-en-rol-epos

https://www.topontiki.gr/2023/07/23/guns-n-roses-apsifisan-ton-kafsona-ke-evalan-fotia-sto-oaka/

https://www.protothema.gr/culture/article/1395167/oi-guns-n-roses-apsifisan-ton-kausona-kai-epaixan-treis-oloklires-ores-sto-olubiako-stadio/

https://www.enikos.gr/timeout/guns-n-roses-xesikosan-tin-athina-epeita-apo-30-chronia-vinteo/2002448/

https://www.ieidiseis.gr/politismos/207876/guns-n-roses-monadiki-i-synavlia-tous-sto-oaka-to-happy-birthday-ston-slash

[Italian girl]

8 minutes ago, PatrickS77 said:

Before the pain train? What did he say?

"LET'S SEE IF THIS TIME IT WORKS" (or something like that).. THEN TURNED TO THE GUY AND SMILED

[PatrickS77]

12 minutes ago, Italian girl said:

"LET'S SEE IF THIS TIME IT WORKS" (or something like that).. THEN TURNED TO THE GUY AND SMILED

Good. He went from "He's not number 1 anymore" to smiles to "He's an asshole". Back in the '00s the guy would have been an asshole right away. And fired.

[colonizedmind]

4 hours ago, Stay.Of.Execution said:

Only judging by the show itself, I would say Madrid. Longest show of the euro run, incredible twat performance by Axl.

I was thinking Madrid too...was solid all around...

[We love Axl Rose]

 I have posted photos from Bucharest, here is the link if anyone is interested: 

[thetiesthatbind]

On 7/23/2023 at 8:05 PM, Stay.Of.Execution said:

I did. And a pretty good one too.

Dito and you're welcome. Hope you had a safe trip back. We'll meet on the next tour

Happy to hear that! 

[thetiesthatbind]

On 7/24/2023 at 3:56 PM, Blackstar said:

Another review in the same vein as the one above about Axl's voice etc. (in Greek):

https://www.athinorama.gr/music/3019375/guns-n-roses-eixan-na-dosoun-liga-pou-omos-simainan-tosa-polla-gia-xiliades-kosmou/

A short and positive one from another music site:

https://www.hit-channel.com/guns-n-roses-apogeiosan-katamesto-oaka/252402

Some more reviews and reports from Greek news sites, all generally positive:

https://www.efsyn.gr/efsyn-city/synantiseis/398494_guns-n-roses-last-internationale-oaka

https://www.cnn.gr/style/politismos/story/374611/guns-n-roses-sto-oaka-idrosan-ti-fanela-me-trioro-rok-en-rol-epos

https://www.topontiki.gr/2023/07/23/guns-n-roses-apsifisan-ton-kafsona-ke-evalan-fotia-sto-oaka/

https://www.protothema.gr/culture/article/1395167/oi-guns-n-roses-apsifisan-ton-kausona-kai-epaixan-treis-oloklires-ores-sto-olubiako-stadio/

https://www.enikos.gr/timeout/guns-n-roses-xesikosan-tin-athina-epeita-apo-30-chronia-vinteo/2002448/

https://www.ieidiseis.gr/politismos/207876/guns-n-roses-monadiki-i-synavlia-tous-sto-oaka-to-happy-birthday-ston-slash

Most of those reviews that have a negative tone, are just delusional people who have higher expectations than they should as they already knew the terms of the show. 
 

GNR overdelivered in Athens. I’ve seen many artists and concerts so far, and I can say for sure this one was a good one. Most of those reviewers best thing they’ve seen in their lives is Arctic Monkeys and Muse.

[We love Axl Rose]

https://www.facebook.com/gunsnroses/posts/868590981296326

 

[Blackstar]

4 hours ago, thetiesthatbind said:

Most of those reviews that have a negative tone, are just delusional people who have higher expectations than they should as they already knew the terms of the show. 
 

GNR overdelivered in Athens. I’ve seen many artists and concerts so far, and I can say for sure this one was a good one. Most of those reviewers best thing they’ve seen in their lives is Arctic Monkeys and Muse.

Only one review is negative, though (the first one in Athinorama) and not because the reviewer had higher expectations (the review reads more like a self-fulfilled prophecy of low expectations that proved to be justified) - on the contrary, he thinks that the people in the crowd who enjoyed it were delusional.

[AxlIsGod.]

It could be the heat but Axl has sounded a bit tired over the last couple gigs, feel like the run maybe peaked around the Paris show.

The break has probably come at a good time, although it's quite a short one. Hopefully it's a bit cooler by the time the US run kicks into gear