Stay.Of.Execution Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, batatadoce said: But it was also stated: 1183. This belief in futility was reasonable and supported because ,on or about October 2022, when Benzova attempted to reach out Beta Lebeis, mother of Fernando Lebeis and manager of AXL Rose, Beta ridiculed and demeaned Benzova stating the only reason she is where she is in her life is because of her son. missed that one. well, the apple doesnt fall far from the tree 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I don't get it. Ok, she didn't wanna get fired or thrashed or whatever, but if she gathered enough evidence and then showed it to Duff or Slash secretly, are you telling me they wouldn't have lifted a finger?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Bob Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Fernando don't I swear I won't... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IzzysMissy Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Italian girl said: I hope that melissa's latest absences didn't mean anything regarding this situation.. I immediately thought this too…. I fucking hope not. Honestly… and what @batatadocejust pointed out above you is HORRIBLE. I wonder if this gets worse… 4 minutes ago, batatadoce said: 1183. This belief in futility was reasonable and supported because ,on or about October 2022, when Benzova attempted to reach out Beta Lebeis, mother of Fernando Lebeis and manager of AXL Rose, Beta ridiculed and demeaned Benzova stating the only reason she is where she is in her life is because of her son. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, Rodela said: I am a firm believer that Axl respects all women wether cis or trans, in this world. He'll step forward and dismiss Fernando. Axl's history proves quite the opposite. He also rewards loyalty above all else. There is zero chance Fernando will be fully dismissed as he should be. At most, he would likely be relegated to a background position. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Italian girl said: well done, old witch witch is an underrated insult 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian girl Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, IzzysMissy said: I immediately thought this too…. I fucking hope not. Honestly… and what @batatadocejust pointed out above you is HORRIBLE. I wonder if this gets worse… it will.. it's just the beginning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, jamillos said: I don't get it. Ok, she didn't wanna get fired or thrashed or whatever, but if she gathered enough evidence and then showed it to Duff or Slash secretly, are you telling me they wouldn't have lifted a finger?? That is not how a business should work. I know it is lame calling GNR a business, but that is what they are, and a lucrative and large one at that. You should document and go through the proper channels- which is certainly not a rich, washed- up rock star. She was wise to document and then appropriately build her case. Her legal counsel determines what she should do with that information, and it seems like the time has come to launch the case. Good for her, I hope she bleeds them dry. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, jamillos said: I don't get it. Ok, she didn't wanna get fired or thrashed or whatever, but if she gathered enough evidence and then showed it to Duff or Slash secretly, are you telling me they wouldn't have lifted a finger?? Seems like it wasn't a problem worth fighting for (but worth documenting since 2016), until she wasn't brought back in 2022 (not sure if the law suit indicates if she quit or wasn't called back). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRQ93 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 If Beta knew, Axl knew. Fortus prob knew cause wasn’t he close with Kat? you’re telling me also Kat didn’t gossip with Meegan and other women in the entourage? word gets around doesn’t it? beta knew and shamed Kat as in the doc above. So she would have to go too. And she won’t, cause she’s family to Axl. GNR is fucked 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, jamillos said: I don't get it. Ok, she didn't wanna get fired or thrashed or whatever, but if she gathered enough evidence and then showed it to Duff or Slash secretly, are you telling me they wouldn't have lifted a finger?? Slash and Duff wouldn't rock the boat, especially with people as close to Axl as Fernando and Team Brazil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, AxlRQ93 said: GNR is fucked in the head 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 17 minutes ago, Rodela said: I am a firm believer that Axl respects all women wether cis or trans, in this world. He'll step forward and dismiss Fernando. Don’t forget he might have been a bit brainwashed by the Lebeis’. He’s always been a bit peculiar and sensitive, and after all, when he and Steph broke up, guess who remained around him and been in his life ever since. I’m starting to wonder whether they didn’t have something to do with it... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRQ93 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, ZoSoRose said: in the head that too but I mean, as a band. Axl is never gonna give up TB even tho it’s the right thing to do. Slash is not gonna wanna have his name dragged thru the mud by proxy. Duff is very pro female nowadays and I don’t think he’ll stick around if Axl stands by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Live Like a Suicide said: Slash and Duff wouldn't rock the boat, especially with people as close to Axl as Fernando and Team Brazil. Why? Slash certainly wouldn't have gotten fired, that's for sure. That would have been the end of GNR. Axl needs him more than he needs Axl these days. Edited November 14, 2023 by jamillos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, AxlRQ93 said: that too but I mean, as a band. Axl is never gonna give up TB even tho it’s the right thing to do. Slash is not gonna wanna have his name dragged thru the mud by proxy. Duff is very pro female nowadays and I don’t think he’ll stick around if Axl stands by them. Unfortunately, this stuff is probably more common than we think in big organizations like GNR. I am a little optimistic this may lead to some good change because she was so close to the band, but who knows. If this is all true, I'd love to see TB kicked to the curb; they are parasites Edited November 14, 2023 by ZoSoRose 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindmelon Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 14 minutes ago, Italian girl said: I hope that melissa's latest absences didn't mean anything regarding this situation.. this was my thought too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarpatch Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, jamillos said: Why? Slash certainly wouldn't have gotte fired, that's for sure. That would have been the end of GNR. Axl needs him more than he needs Axl these days. They need each other. None of them are getting paid that much on their own. The tour being canceled affects all of them legally and financially They may have known. It would have cost them less to settle after the tour ended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Rindmelon said: this was my thought too She did appear at the Hollywood Bowl shows. I was in the back, but I remember introducing her during the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, guitarpatch said: They need each other. None of them are getting paid that much on their own. The tour being canceled affects all of them legally and financially They may have known. It would have cost them less to settle after the tour ended That would make it even worse, way worse. I hope that wasn't the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, Rodela said: Axl and Duff have always cherished women and will intervene to help Kat, Melissa, Dizzy, and other women harassed by GNR staff. What 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Słash Posted November 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2023 Logged in after 7 years! hope everyone is doing well. This is extremely disgusing, really kick out TB and get a proper manager. I am honestly not surprised and won't be surprised if something similar happened with Mellisa too. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindmelon Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, jamillos said: I don't get it. Ok, she didn't wanna get fired or thrashed or whatever, but if she gathered enough evidence and then showed it to Duff or Slash secretly, are you telling me they wouldn't have lifted a finger?? I forget how it was worded, but doesn't it basically say in there that she needed permission from Fernando to actually talk to them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4NNY Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Rodela said: Axl and Duff have always cherished women and will intervene to help Kat, Melissa, Dizzy, and other women harassed by GNR staff. Dizzy??? 😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Słash said: Logged in after 7 years! hope everyone is doing well. This is extremely disgusing, really kick out TB and get a proper manager. I am honestly not surprised and won't be surprised if something similar happened with Mellisa too. Hey dude! Good to see you! Yeah, this sucks. Fuck TB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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