Popular Post GNFNRUK Posted August 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 hour ago, klakly said: comincio ad essere sempre più scettico sull'uscita di venerdì 18. D'altra parte, il link alla pagina GnR è ancora lì, e anche quella UMG sembra essere ancora in attesa. Probabilmente pubblicheranno la canzone, ma chissà quando. Nel caso fosse vera la data del 18 agosto, sarebbe la prima volta che noi italiani diamo una notizia in anteprima 🤣 Interpreter please… 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Friendly reminder that opinion is not fact. Having said that, I think Robin’s solos are perfect (including the Perhaps one) and I really love Slash’s solo in You Got No Right. Most recently, I like Fill My World. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outofgascar Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, GNFNRUK said: Interpreter please… It says if we don't stop throwing things at the jukebox, he will go home....and make a calzone. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klakly Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) 12 minuti fa, GNFNRUK ha scritto: Interpreta per favore... I'm beginning to be increasingly skeptical about the Friday 18 release. On the other hand, the link to GnR's page is still there, and UMG's still seems to be on hold as well. They will probably release the song, but who knows when. In case the August 18 date is true, it would be the first time that we Italians give a preview news 🤣 22 minuti fa, Georgina Arriaga ha detto: Potete tradurre per favore? I'm beginning to be increasingly skeptical about the Friday 18 release. On the other hand, the link to GnR's page is still there, and UMG's still seems to be on hold as well. They will probably release the song, but who knows when. In case the August 18 date is true, it would be the first time that we Italians give a preview news 🤣 Edited August 16, 2023 by klakly 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneway23 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 21 minutes ago, Slaveleft said: The logic of no-logic. It's like Bruce Lee...The style of no style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, jacdaniel said: It's actually baffling that they're going to release this now when the tour is coming to an end and then there is Christmas holidays and Slash solo career early next year. I'd love to know what logic they apply... I don't think they release singles at all to affect ticket sales (because it doesn't really matter, the audiences come to hear Paradise City not a new song anyway), or to earn money from music sales (even with promotion the singles wouldn't sell much, this kind of music is not popular anymore) - nor do I think they are that motivated by releasing music to earn money anyway (they already have huge profits from the touring, which is perhaps simpler for them). Some fans here like to think that the band has this motivation to be great again, but I think it is more the fans that for some reason has a need to see their band become great again. They are in their 60s, I think they are pretty content with where they are. So I think Axl releases the singles more because he wants them to come out, they mean something to him (or the concept of still releasing music means something to him), but there is no rush for him, nor does the releases need to be timed to anything in particular. He might even wait with some songs till after they have finished touring, because then he won't have to try to sing them live (instead of releasing them while touring but not sing them and thus acknowledge that his voice has weakened that much). So I think we should give up trying to force their actions into some conventional approach on how bands release music to become big and enable touring. I don't think it's like that at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSTK Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Sonicjam said: In less than 25 hours from now, it will be friday the 18th in new zealand. 24 hours then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonez Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 I always think that axl doesn't want to push the singles cause if he does loads of promos and puts effort into it and it doesn't live up to his expectations then he's going be upset where if you don't try and just throw it out you have a excuse built in of it would of done better with promotion. Spares his emotions but I guess we will see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 The 18th is the last day I will be hopeful for. If it doesn’t happen then, I just assume it’s been shelved or cancelled, or maybe at best will come out 2 years down the line like Hard Skool did after being rumored in 2019. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbj_jam Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 If everything wasn't spoiled already, you would have no clue as to whether said songs were recorded yesterday or 20 years ago, this isn't something uniquely pertaining to gnr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneway23 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, pbj_jam said: If everything wasn't spoiled already, you would have no clue as to whether said songs were recorded yesterday or 20 years ago, this isn't something uniquely pertaining to gnr. You're absolutely right. Axl's voice hasn't changed in any way over the past twenty-five years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyrai Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 This will come out, somewhere someone will have the copy from touchtunes, hopefully this week we hear it and potentially have an option after to buy a physical copy , until then il keep enjoying other artist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020_Intensions Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, AxlRoseCDII said: The 18th is the last day I will be hopeful for. If it doesn’t happen then, I just assume it’s been shelved or cancelled, or maybe at best will come out 2 years down the line like Hard Skool did after being rumored in 2019. Why does it matter to you so much? You already heard the song lol. We've had it for 4 years now. The official release is only going to be slightly different. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbj_jam Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, oneway23 said: You're absolutely right. Axl's voice hasn't changed in any way over the past twenty-five years. the quality of the music itself is indifferent, or the justification of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneway23 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, pbj_jam said: the quality of the music itself is Irrelevant, or the justification of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AxlRoseCDII Posted August 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said: Why does it matter to you so much? You already heard the song lol. We've had it for 4 years now. The official release is only going to be slightly different. Why does it matter to me? Someone whose username is AxlRoseCDII? Someone who’s favorite band is, or should I say was, GNR? Gee, I wonder why it would ever matter to me to have music i geniunely loved be formally released and played live. 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post downzy Posted August 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2023 17 hours ago, Tom2112 said: We've all had this discussion many times, but I think TB were in the right place at the right time. They facilitated the call when Axl told them to make it happen... They didn't talk him into or suggest reuniting with Slash, if anything they actively worked against it for years. I don't think they can take credit for the reunion or its success Had Doc been the manager in 2014/2015 when nuGNR was on the slide, he would probably have been responsible for the reunion tours, same goes for Irving and any manager that wasn't connected to the 90s split. Facilitating a project and tours like this still aren't easy. Look, I'm not a huge fan of how Fernando has conducted himself with the fan base, but I'll give credit where credit is due. A reunion was never going to happen if Axl suspected it was being pushed on him by management that was only interested in collecting its 10-15 percent. My impression is that Axl is very suspicious of people who are only looking out for their own financial interests and are willing to sacrifice how he feels to achieve their objectives. One of the benefits of TB being less than supportive of a reunion with Slash is that Axl knows they weren't helping him because they knew it would only enrich themselves. I have no doubt that they care about him very deeply based on my own interactions with both Fernando and Beta. So you can say TB was at the right place and right time, but I don't see how it happens without them. 16 hours ago, vloors said: That was mostly Axl decision. Wasnt he the one that told Beta/TB to get in contact with Slash then they had a dinner meet up. TB are really just Axls yes men/women. See my post above. At the end of the day, if anyone thinks that being Axl Roses's personal or artist manager is easy, well, they should talk to some of the people I've spoken with. I'm not here to shit on him as I don't know him. But I don't think it's coincidental that there's been a revolving roster of people that have come and gone in Axl's life. Managing Axl Rose isn't a job for someone who is there for the pay cheque. It takes a tremendous amount of trust, something that Beta, Fernando and everyone else around him spent years building. Who really knows, but if you think the reunion or tour happens (or continues past a few shows) without TB, you're not going to find much agreement from me. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSTK Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 24 minutes ago, oneway23 said: You're absolutely right. Axl's voice hasn't changed in any way over the past twenty-five years. I must have dreamed the 2006 & 10 voice then...Best he's ever sounded 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneway23 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, DSTK said: I must have dreamed the 2006 & 10 voice then...Best he's ever sounded Was at all four Hammerstein shows in '06 and three shows in '10. Sarcasm didn't translate in a forum post...settle down, cowboy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Cundy Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Wheels are coming right off this thread haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020_Intensions Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 47 minutes ago, AxlRoseCDII said: Why does it matter to me? Someone whose username is AxlRoseCDII? Someone who’s favorite band is, or should I say was, GNR? Gee, I wonder why it would ever matter to me to have music i geniunely loved be formally released and played live. Yeah, just not understanding why it actually matters if it's formally released or not. That doesn't change anything. You've heard the song. It won't sound nearly as good live. Wanting it to be released and played live is fine, but if it doesn't come out on the 18th, nothing has changed. It's still going to come out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seb91 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 29 minutes ago, downzy said: Facilitating a project and tours like this still aren't easy. Look, I'm not a huge fan of how Fernando has conducted himself with the fan base, but I'll give credit where credit is due. A reunion was never going to happen if Axl suspected it was being pushed on him by management that was only interested in collecting its 10-15 percent. My impression is that Axl is very suspicious of people who are only looking out for their own financial interests and are willing to sacrifice how he feels to achieve their objectives. One of the benefits of TB being less than supportive of a reunion with Slash is that Axl knows they weren't helping him because they knew it would only enrich themselves. I have no doubt that they care about him very deeply based on my own interactions with both Fernando and Beta. So you can say TB was at the right place and right time, but I don't see how it happens without them. See my post above. At the end of the day, if anyone thinks that being Axl Roses's personal or artist manager is easy, well, they should talk to some of the people I've spoken with. I'm not here to shit on him as I don't know him. But I don't think it's coincidental that there's been a revolving roster of people that have come and gone in Axl's life. Managing Axl Rose isn't a job for someone who is there for the pay cheque. It takes a tremendous amount of trust, something that Beta, Fernando and everyone else around him spent years building. Who really knows, but if you think the reunion or tour happens (or continues past a few shows) without TB, you're not going to find much agreement from me. I feel this is spot on. I think the reality is there isn't a scenario in which Axl has regular management and it works out, I feel it's essentially a case of TB or bust. Whilst they're not the most competent management available to GN'R I feel like it's the only way things are going to work. I think the whole Chinese era really showed that no deadlines, incentives or motivation from anyone else really has an impact on what Axl does. Sure, it sucks that 'new' music is being drip-fed at a snail's pace but I don't really see anything that would change that unless Axl one day woke up and decided he wanted to make a record. I guess the bonus is he's still out there doing stuff and this is the most consistent and prolonged period of activity we've had at this point. He hasn't gone to ground for yonks like he did in the past. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 I really hope it comes out on Friday. I'll buy the single, and order it on physical media, if possible, then will go to the bar and listen to it there a few times on the jukebox. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyrai Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Sweersa said: I really hope it comes out on Friday. I'll buy the single, and order it on physical media, if possible, then will go to the bar and listen to it there a few times on the jukebox. Il join virtually with a beer 🍺 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Likelihood of a car crash happening in this thread before Friday: High. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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