Georgina Arriaga Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 49 minutes ago, Ratam said: I read that Kimmel name was find in Epstein list. That Is misinformation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 hours ago, Ratam said: I read that Kimmel name was find in Epstein list. Stop spreading bullshit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 16 minutes ago, Stay.Of.Execution said: Stop spreading bullshit I not spread BS, i read it, then i accept that Internet is full of BS. Thanks for nothing...... 1 hour ago, Georgina Arriaga said: That Is misinformation Now will delete my post. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamos66 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Stay.Of.Execution said: Stop spreading bullshit I mean, she just said that she read it. Didn't see her claim it was fact🤷 Edited January 13 by Skamos66 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream of the Butterfly Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 4 hours ago, History2010 said: Default judgement could be worse financially. Courts really don't appreciate being ignored so the penalties could be a lot more severe than if he just participates and is found liable. That might be true, but I imagine Axl is wealthy enough to not have to worry about it as much. 3 hours ago, Blackstar said: From what I understand, it's the plaintiff's responsibility to serve the lawsuit properly. If they fail or are not able to do it in the ways provided for in the civil law codes, they can request the court to allow them to serve it in another way. Three visits to his door and a mailed letter would normally be considered sufficient even if there was no answer at the door. 3 hours ago, Blackstar said: In the lawsuit of the woman who claims she was injured by Axl's mic, her lawyers haven't been able to serve the lawsuit to Team Brazil (who is one of the defendants) yet, and the court gave them permission to publish ads in the LA Times and other newspapers and also try to send it by email (the lawsuit hasn't been served yet even after that): Has anybody seen these ads? 3 hours ago, Avillart said: He doesn't have the option to ignore it. Once he/his lawyers got the 30 days (or whatever the time frame in this case is, in the Russell Brand case it was 30 days) he/they have to respond. Also, it doesn't look good to the outside to "ignore" it, especially when it's a person in the spotlight. If he ignores it and fails to respond, there could be a default judgement, but I think there would be less publicity than if he chooses to actively participate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 38 minutes ago, Stay.Of.Execution said: Stop spreading bullshit How is Ratam to know if it's bullshit? 1 minute ago, Skamos66 said: I mean, he just said that he read it. Didn't see him claim it was fact🤷 *she 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Just now, janrichmond said: How is Ratam to know if it's bullshit? It's not hard to reassure if what you're reading is actually fact or not nowadays. No need to spread it any further. But nevermind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluegrassBlues Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 21 minutes ago, Ratam said: I not spread BS, i read it, then i accept that Internet is full of BS. Thanks for nothing...... Now will delete my post. It's ok @Ratam we all misread things on the internet, that reply was a bit aggressive for no reason. I am a bit worried about how this lawsuit is going to play out now though 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Scream of the Butterfly said: Three visits to his door and a mailed letter would normally be considered sufficient even if there was no answer at the door. Has anybody seen these ads? In TB's/Fernando's case it isn't considered service (see the document I posted: https://jumpshare.com/s/8mdVcUdO8L29KYBphNUw) I suppose Axl can delay it and gain more time, but not ignore it (and I don't think he intends or wants to, since his attorney responded to the press right away). I can look for the ads (notices) Edited January 13 by Blackstar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 3 minutes ago, BluegrassBlues said: It's ok @Ratam we all misread things on the internet, that reply was a bit aggressive for no reason. I am a bit worried about how this lawsuit is going to play out now though I came off more aggressive as I intended, sorry. I just get annoyed about this topic after all the Karen Rodgers saga 😛 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRQ93 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 So is Axl’s career over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluegrassBlues Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 minute ago, Stay.Of.Execution said: I came off more aggressive as I intended, sorry. I just get annoyed about this topic after all the Karen Rodgers saga 😛 That's completely understandable, we're all human! I know I'm newer around here, but from all the past threads I've caught up on she has been here for years and has posted a lot of cool stuff, so I don't believe she would ever intentionally say anything that wasn't true. Personally I don't consider Sheila a victim based on everything I've read, and I'm so ready for this lawsuit to be over with 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) 11 minutes ago, BluegrassBlues said: It's ok @Ratam we all misread things on the internet, that reply was a bit aggressive for no reason. I am a bit worried about how this lawsuit is going to play out now though I don't think anything significant is going to happen for a while. Even when Axl's answer is filed in about two months from now, at this stage it will be just typical (a typical answer is addressing the lawsuit paragraph by paragraph and denying everything without further explanation). Unless he files a counter-suit (e.g. for defamation) along with the answer, but I doubt it. 5 minutes ago, AxlRQ93 said: So is Axl’s career over No. Edited January 13 by Blackstar 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamos66 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Axl is going to be just fine, it is all he said/she said and there is no physical evidence or anything anyways. If it happened or not (which idk how anyone would be able to find out anyways) now is way too late. Also, how the hell can someone not break out of a pantyhose? Don't those have holes and are very thin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream of the Butterfly Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 6 minutes ago, Blackstar said: In TB's/Fernando's case it isn't considered service (see the document I posted: https://jumpshare.com/s/8mdVcUdO8L29KYBphNUw) If I understood correctly, there was uncertainty about Fernando's whereabouts and address because supposedly he had moved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 6 minutes ago, Skamos66 said: Axl is going to be just fine, it is all he said/she said and there is no physical evidence or anything anyways. If it happened or not (which idk how anyone would be able to find out anyways) now is way too late. Also, how the hell can someone not break out of a pantyhose? Don't those have holes and are very thin? not when they are used to tie hands together 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Scream of the Butterfly said: If I understood correctly, there was uncertainty about Fernando's whereabouts and address because supposedly he had moved. Yes, but also although there was someone there to receive the lawsuit, they refused to give their name, so it was delivered to "John Does". Axl obviously can't say that he has moved (and I don't think he would be interested in having an "excuse" like that), but since there was no one at the door he can be considered absent for a while. But regardless, it is necessary for Axl or someone on his behalf (e.g. his lawyer) to acknowledge the service by signing the papers they received in order for the lawsuit to be considered served. Edited January 13 by Blackstar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream of the Butterfly Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 4 minutes ago, Blackstar said: But regardless, it is necessary for Axl or someone on his behalf (e.g. his lawyer) to acknowledge the service by signing the papers they received in order for the lawsuit to be considered served. To my knowledge, it isn't necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Here is, for example, Axl's and GN'R's answer to the mic injury lawsuit: https://jumpshare.com/v/iQ8bp9ncBYZ8gilkJhX4 I expect something similar in this one, too. Just now, Scream of the Butterfly said: To my knowledge, it isn't necessary. According to this, it is: https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2022/cvp/article-3/312-a/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 26 minutes ago, BluegrassBlues said: It's ok @Ratam we all misread things on the internet, that reply was a bit aggressive for no reason. I am a bit worried akmmmmbout how this lawsuit is going to play out now though Maybe the fact that passed 34+ years is difficult to get evidences, and it can finish in nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluegrassBlues Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 4 minutes ago, Ratam said: Maybe the fact that passed 34+ years is difficult to get evidences, and it can finish in nothing. That is what I am feeling now, at first I was very sympathetic to her just based on Axl's past record with women, but the more I've learned about it I just honestly do not believe her, and that's not just because I am a fan. If she has real evidence I will eat crow, but for now I just can't say I do 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream of the Butterfly Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 28 minutes ago, Blackstar said: According to this, it is: https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2022/cvp/article-3/312-a/ It says that a signed acknowledgement "shall constitute proof of service" but I don't see where it says that it's the only possible proof of service or that a person who refuses to sign is considered not to have been served. If that were the case, then anybody who doesn't want to deal with a lawsuit could easily avoid it by just refusing to sign the documents, which would be absurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Scream of the Butterfly said: It says that a signed acknowledgement "shall constitute proof of service" but I don't see where it says that it's the only possible proof of service or that a person who refuses to sign is considered not to have been served. If that were the case, then anybody who doesn't want to deal with a lawsuit could easily avoid it by just refusing to sign the documents, which would be absurd. I suppose it wouldn't say it if it wasn't needed, at least in the case of sending the lawsuit by mail, or it would mention alternatives for proof of service. But not only does it mention it, but it says "must". I'm not sure about the case of leaving it at the door (if the affidavit is enough as proof). Edited January 14 by Blackstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream of the Butterfly Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 5 minutes ago, Blackstar said: I suppose it wouldn't say it if it wasn't needed, at least in the case of sending the lawsuit by mail, or it would mention alternatives for proof of service. I'm not sure about the case of leaving it at the door (if the affidavit is enough as proof). https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/law-and-life/dont-bother-avoiding-process-servers/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karice Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Plot twist. The Served Papers were actually served to Axl's Childhood home in Lafayette, Indiana, a home he hasn't lived in for around 50 years! 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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