Padme Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I created a separate thread as a lot of good debate is being lost on a number of different threads.I have mixed opinions about this but in short I believe (as we type and spk) things MAY be evolving.What's your view/take?PLEASE KEEP RESPECTFUL!it's a very good thing, this mini-reunion could lead us to the BIG ONE ! Yes, but in what terms? A big one with TB as managers? A big one with 4 former members just as hired guys? Many things must change for a big one to be done the proper way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PITBOSS Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 it's pretty clear for me, with no disrespect to tommy, duff being back is a pretty exciting time for this band and I hope it continues. with that guy on board maybe we can get better negotiations for things like releasing the dvd. people say "duff back means no new music"? I say what? I think it gives a boost to axl and maybe he will actually want to record something now. Duff can't learn how to play a new song on the fly? he figured out the Chinese democracy songs pretty quik. if this becomes permanent it's a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 A compelling point is the label may see one old gunner as highly marketable to the old fanbase for new material, so if that hang up is a large blockage in the cogs of a sequel (Axl ain't even playing anything to signify he has anything up his sleeve, never hints he has further plans, does the same thing over and over, BBF saying Atlas isn't even finished - so there is a lot of doubt this is why nothing new) there may be more leverage and opportunity in the future pipeline, but what would Duff's motivation be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercool Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I created a separate thread as a lot of good debate is being lost on a number of different threads.I have mixed opinions about this but in short I believe (as we type and spk) things MAY be evolving.What's your view/take?PLEASE KEEP RESPECTFUL!it's a very good thing, this mini-reunion could lead us to the BIG ONE ! Yes, but in what terms? A big one with TB as managers? A big one with 4 former members just as hired guys? Many things must change for a big one to be done the proper way.indeed, but it could be a step in the right direction. wait and see 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) Duff has the power to challenge Axl. Tommy doesn't.That's why I think Tommy will stay so Axl can still do whatever he wants which is precisely... nothing. Edited April 22, 2014 by Nosaj Thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PITBOSS Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 it's cutting it close but last guns gig is 6/7 walking papers first gig 6/9?First gig is June 6 in Horsens, Denmark. Plus time to get to Europe (And I'm sure rehearsals since they haven't played together in a little while), definitely 3 but probably 4 gigs he'd have to sit out. google has failed me lol http://www.songkick.com/artists/5875959-walking-papers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Considering Duff seemingly is behind starting a show with YCBM and has seeimgly been really giving Axl some good energy I say that Duff returning would kick ass.However the only reason why I would not want it is because I think Duff is too talented to be wasted in a band that doesn't release music 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsguy Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Just got an email back but driving!I'll update later..Curse you!!! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 If Axl ever reunites the old line up then to me that says that Axls a bitch and quite frankly they were all always about the money in the first place. And to ditch Tommy after all the fuckin' graft and commitment he's put in while Duff was busy bailing out and pissing around in college and trying to make an Axl-less GnR in VR, running Axl down and all sorts, that pretty clearly says to me that these lot ain't about shit, none of em.But you're working off the assumption that Tommy wants to stay. Maybe he doesn't? Maybe he wants to do other things? I'd agree it would be a shitty move on Axl's part to force out one of his most loyal bandmates, but I'm not sure if Duff coming in translates into Axl forcing Tommy out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 If Axl ever reunites the old line up then to me that says that Axls a bitch and quite frankly they were all always about the money in the first place. And to ditch Tommy after all the fuckin' graft and commitment he's put in while Duff was busy bailing out and pissing around in college and trying to make an Axl-less GnR in VR, running Axl down and all sorts, that pretty clearly says to me that these lot ain't about shit, none of em.But you're working off the assumption that Tommy wants to stay. Maybe he doesn't? Maybe he wants to do other things? I'd agree it would be a shitty move on Axl's part to force out one of his most loyal bandmates, but I'm not sure if Duff coming in translates into Axl forcing Tommy out.Oh true, yeah, sorry, i wasn't clear there, was I? Obviously if Tommy wants out and the windows open for Duff then go for it. But even then, after all this shit, it's really odd to see them just suddenly cool out of the blue, fuck it, wasted the best years of your life you could've been together, why bother now It's annoying if anything, kinda like those Monkees reunions, it's like where the fuck were a quarter of a century ago, nobody wants to see your wrinkly prune-cheeks this late in the day, go home and sip meds through a straw and shit your pants and await the inevitable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Just got an email back but driving!I'll update later..You fucking cockbag wankstain Geordie cunt!!!! Howay man that's not cricket!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellobeatle Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I'd be interested in the business arrangement if Duff were to return. Would he be cool with just being a contractually hired hand? Would he request more money from sales than the others? Would Axl let him buy back or create a partnership? Duff appears to be more business savvy than your usual musician and he knows it'd increase exposure, so I'm sure he'd want more than the other guys.All relevant questions that will get lost in this forum's usual annoying posts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NGOG Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) If Subs has a car accident before telling us the information - god forbid - I'm blaming it on Team Brazil cutting his breaks. Edited April 22, 2014 by NGOG 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 If Subs has a car accident before telling us the information - god forbid - I'm blaming it on Team Brazil cutting his breaks.The rest of us will blame it on you. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 If Axl ever reunites the old line up then to me that says that Axls a bitch and quite frankly they were all always about the money in the first place. And to ditch Tommy after all the fuckin' graft and commitment he's put in while Duff was busy bailing out and pissing around in college and trying to make an Axl-less GnR in VR, running Axl down and all sorts, that pretty clearly says to me that these lot ain't about shit, none of em.But you're working off the assumption that Tommy wants to stay. Maybe he doesn't? Maybe he wants to do other things? I'd agree it would be a shitty move on Axl's part to force out one of his most loyal bandmates, but I'm not sure if Duff coming in translates into Axl forcing Tommy out.Oh true, yeah, sorry, i wasn't clear there, was I? Obviously if Tommy wants out and the windows open for Duff then go for it. But even then, after all this shit, it's really odd to see them just suddenly cool out of the blue, fuck it, wasted the best years of your life you could've been together, why bother now It's annoying if anything, kinda like those Monkees reunions, it's like where the fuck were a quarter of a century ago, nobody wants to see your wrinkly prune-cheeks this late in the day, go home and sip meds through a straw and shit your pants and await the inevitable Yeah, in all of this is the fact that it's a shame that it took so long. I get what you're saying. But at this point, if Axl is done putting out new music, would it not just be better to have the old guys come back? It sucks that they went through all of this to do next to nothing, but now that we're at this shitty destination, might as well make the best of it. If Axl doesn't want to retire and wants to keep on making those Ferrari payments, why not give people what they want? If he's going to sucker people into paying into a greatest hits show, might as well have the guys who actually wrote the music playing along with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthias Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Blame Canada!I'd love to have Duff back for the long run, maybe he could motivate Axl to get shit done ... and even if not it would be cool for me to see them both on stage at a concert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I'd be interested in the business arrangement if Duff were to return. Would he be cool with just being a contractually hired hand? Would he request more money from sales than the others? Would Axl let him buy back or create a partnership? Duff appears to be more business savvy than your usual musician and he knows it'd increase exposure, so I'm sure he'd want more than the other guys.All relevant questions that will get lost in this forum's usual annoying posts.I really don't think it's about money at this point for guys like Duff. I'm sure that so long as he's getting what he feels as fair, he's more into celebrating his legacy than anything else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I'm sure that at this point, Duff would be just fine getting paid good money to be part of Guns N' Roses. This isn't 1996 and they're not getting any younger... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 If Subs has a car accident before telling us the information - god forbid - I'm blaming it on Team Brazil cutting his breaks.The rest of us will blame it on you.No kidding... The last guy to be pointing fingers around here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnari Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) Just speculating: Could this be the road to reunion?? I highly doubt it.....Please let this lead for reunion!!!! :headbang:I want these fuckers to get back together so bad Edited April 22, 2014 by gunnari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Just speculating: Could this be the road to reunion?? I highly doubt it.....Please let this lead for reunion!!!! :headbang:I think that's getting ahead of ourselves, but who knows. Prior to 2006, I would have never imagined Izzy or Duff joining GNR/Axl on stage. The fact that they're all still alive is amazing enough. Maybe one day they'll take advantage of that highly unlikely fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tippin Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 SUBS- after posting that, you'd better tell us what's goin on! Pull over damn it! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Coma Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Just got an email back but driving!I'll update later..Pull over 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bonham Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 This is a victory for Gen X-ers everywhere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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