Woman Covered in Shit Tattoos Told to Cover Up for Work - Complains!

[Dazey]

If you're going to work at a catholic primary school can you really be that shocked to be asked to cover up?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2802935/teaching-assistant-sent-away-catholic-school-arms-neck-covered-tattoos.html

[Johnny Drama]

Saw thread title, knew you were the OP straight away.

Doesn't matter if it's Catholic or not, you dress like that anywhere I'm the boss and you can throw your shit in an archive box to go as soon as you lay your eyes upon my face.

[Dazey]

[Len Cnut]

We've had similar discussions on this topic and like, everyone comes off really understanding like but i wonder if it isn't like, some sort of repressed conservatism at work here 'i've got no problem with it but you just ain't gonna get away with that in such and such place' is usually the line wheeled out by the vast majority.

But thats sort of the whole issue isn't it, people say they don't give a fuck, it don't reflect negatively on the person in their book...so the idea is changing society now and taking that step forward, who gives a shit if your bank teller has an inked sleeve? No one apparently so we just invent new ways of objecting, namely, 'well it's the way of the world so if it happens i've no sympathy for ya!', which strikes me as trying to be on both sides of the fence at once.

Furthermore, Dazey is a fat Tory slag

Edited October 22, 2014 by Lennie Godber

[Johnny Drama]

You wanna dress like that out of the workplace, kudos but don't look like a pincushion colouring book in the workplace if you're employed in a professional capacity.

[Len Cnut]

Why?

[Iron MikeyJ]

I don't like that the girl used the word "prejudice" to describe her ordeal. She wasn't born with tats, she made that decision herself, that is by no means "prejudice" imo. I say that as someone who has tats, so I guess I'm discrimating against my own race, lol. Bottom line, if you want to be a teacher, a lawyer, a doctor, nurse, etc don't get too many or overly visable tattoos. It's really that simple. It's your body, you can do whatever you want, but it's also someone else right to choose to employ you. Using the discrimation card, even slightly like she did, is despicable imo.

Edited October 22, 2014 by Mike420

[Axls Rocket Queen]

Has the woman never heard of concealer?

I dunno, I feel like in this day and age body art shouldn't be an issue but a workplace is within their rights to incorporate body art into their dress code restrictions if they find them inappropriate. My question is, was this made clear to he before she went for the placement, or was she unaware there would be a problem until she started work there? Because really she should have been made aware of any dress code policies before (whether the school sent her information or she asked them) so if she chose to ignore that she can't really blame the school.

[Lio]

I think the discussions prove that you'd better think twice before doing something drastic like having your neck tattooed. Personally, I think it shouldn't matter, but as long as a lot of people think it does matter and find it inappropriate in a workplace, you should know by doing so, you seriously compromise your chances on a job.

[Iron MikeyJ]

Why?

Because your employer has the right to enforce whatever dress code they seem fit. You don't HAVE to work for them, you are choosing to. Therefore you choose to obey their rules.

[Len Cnut]

Why?

Because your employer has the right to enforce whatever dress code they seem fit. You don't HAVE to work for them, you are choosing to. Therefore you choose to obey their rules.

But it is the basis that that rule is made that is in question here, thats my point.

[Dazey]

The way I see it she's entitled to do whatever she wants to her own body but she also needs to accept that it might limit her career options somewhat. Not saying that's right but any imbecile knows that visible tats can cause you problems in this way. If she genuinely didn't realise that this is how things work then she's probably not that bright and shouldn't be anywhere near a classroom anyway.

[username]

Getting a tattoo in any place that's next to impossible to cover up is enormously stupid.

[Roush]

When ya look like that, what are your job prospects?

- bartender

- graphic design

- kitchen staff

- stripper

- mechanic?

[Len Cnut]

The way I see it she's entitled to do whatever she wants to her own body but she also needs to accept that it might limit her career options somewhat. Not saying that's right but any imbecile knows that visible tats can cause you problems in this way. If she genuinely didn't realise that this is how things work then she's probably not that bright and shouldn't be anywhere near a classroom anyway.

But thats the whole point, changing those attitudes to bring them in line with the times, these are just old standards that no ones changed up but just looking at the world around you clears up how socially unacceptable tats are these days.

[username]

The way I see it she's entitled to do whatever she wants to her own body but she also needs to accept that it might limit her career options somewhat. Not saying that's right but any imbecile knows that visible tats can cause you problems in this way. If she genuinely didn't realise that this is how things work then she's probably not that bright and shouldn't be anywhere near a classroom anyway.

But thats the whole point, changing those attitudes to bring them in line with the times, these are just old standards that no ones changed up but just looking at the world around you clears up how socially unacceptable tats are these days.

Those morals will be great to remember when you have to ask "do you want fries with that burger?" a thousand times a day.

It's all nice and idealistic, but is it really worth being stuck in low-level jobs for the rest of your life?

[Len Cnut]

The way I see it she's entitled to do whatever she wants to her own body but she also needs to accept that it might limit her career options somewhat. Not saying that's right but any imbecile knows that visible tats can cause you problems in this way. If she genuinely didn't realise that this is how things work then she's probably not that bright and shouldn't be anywhere near a classroom anyway.

But thats the whole point, changing those attitudes to bring them in line with the times, these are just old standards that no ones changed up but just looking at the world around you clears up how socially unacceptable tats are these days.

Those morals will be great to remember when you have to ask "do you want fries with that burger?" a thousand times a day.

It's all nice and idealistic, but is it really worth being stuck in low-level jobs for the rest of your life?

But thats what im getting at Ronnie, this aint some far out idea, this aint nudism in the workplace, its a perfectly natural part of social evolution, in much the way spikey hairdos were once employers anathema...now you got weathermen with em, this isnt something wild and totally idealistic and out of sync with the direction our cultures going in.

[ColdHeartBreaker]

It's outdated and wrong. Len is 100% right.

Edited October 22, 2014 by ColdHeartBreaker

[Georgy Zhukov]

Excessive tattoos on women are gross. They give me the impression they have diseases.

Edited October 22, 2014 by Georgy Zhukov

[jekylhyde]

I don't understand why a surprisingly number of people are still against tattoos? Unless you have swastikas, swear words or genitals tattooed on your face, palms, neck etc, it shouldn't matter. I don't have any, but I like to look at other peoples' tattoos.

[downzy]

Didn't they see the tattoos when they hired her? Why'd they give her the job. I get that she should be required to cover up tattoos in areas that are normally covered up, but asking her to cover up tattoos that would have been clearly visible at the time of offering her the job seems a bit absurd.

[magisme]

I take issue with the whole "what I do to my body says nothing about who I am as a person so you have no right to judge in any way" argument. Fuck off. Yes, it does say something about you. That's why you did it. You might want everyone to see only the positive things you associate with your "body art" or whatever, but you don't get to make that call for others. Image is not neutral. It signifies. And people will naturally make judgments based on those significations. You can't legislate that away.

And why is it always an issue of the workplace? Let's go at these pierced and tattooed fucks for a second. You're doing nothing but trying to assure the world that you can be a good little wage slave like everyone else. Nice cause. Your legacy? Making subversive and countercultural gestures inoffensive and unthreatening to the status quo. That's not the kind of "progress" I get behind.

[The Sandman]

She could just use the product that the zombie guy used to look normal.

Her tats are absolutely awful anyway: eurgh.

[bran]

When ya look like that, what are your job prospects?

- bartender

- graphic design

- kitchen staff

- stripper

- mechanic?

tattoo artist

[Axls Rocket Queen]

Didn't they see the tattoos when they hired her? Why'd they give her the job. I get that she should be required to cover up tattoos in areas that are normally covered up, but asking her to cover up tattoos that would have been clearly visible at the time of offering her the job seems a bit absurd.

It sounds from the article more like it was for a placement as part of her training course, rather than an actual job

When ya look like that, what are your job prospects?

- bartender

- graphic design

- kitchen staff

- stripper

- mechanic?

tattoo artist

Vet

You'd be surprised at how many people in the medical profession have a lot of tattoos.