Would you want "Live Era: 2000-2014"?

[Nosaj Thing]

Look at how well the Blu Ray/DVD did.

[gnfnrs1972]

No live music unless it's never been heard before. Has anyone ever released a whole album of live tracks that were all brand new songs?

Hendrix - Band of Gypsies

Neil Young - Time Fades Away

Thanks for the info.

[Apollo]

We can't lose it seems if CD ll sees the light of day. I believe Axl when he says the art comes first. Maybe there's a difficult decision for him to make right now.

Gold Chinese records sent, it seems he maybe focused on getting CD ll out and then there was that Slash comment and also... 3 band members left. I think regardless of whatever potentially can happen with Slash, Axl is not gonna keep the second half of his 10 year project unreleased. I still believe he will at least attempt to release it, and will want to tour in support of it and make some money.

Duff's time with Axl on the road and renewed friendship might be a factor here as well. Can't see anyone other than him with more power to convince Axl Slash is not evil anymore.

I see them as seperate, well I could. CD II or whatever it's called or some other record and touring could be seperated really. Touring now is a celebration of GNR of All Eras. The album has to live up to that and be or express whatever Axl thinks his final statement is. That's how it will be taken. If you are conscious of that or it weighs or has some meaning to the artist then you want it to be right. I don't think they could have made a better CD.

We'll have to wait and see if Axl can get the next one released then see who wants to tour. That's if he ever comes back or if a reunion doesn't just cancel all that.

He said he's not going anywhere, so that means either an album or a tour, and will he tour without another album released? who will he tour with doesn't really matter. Unless it's Slash for most people.

Thing is, there's an album that is pretty much ready to go. I always say this, but if it's in fact the second half of Chinese, that could have a lot of weight and meaning to Axl.

He can move forward and share his musical vision with the world, or he can go back and try to rebuild something that already was.

I said we can't lose cause either way, there is enough time to release CD ll.

I've thought about what if he releases CD ll and waits. Doesn't tour it right away like you said, seems like a good idea cause maybe it's safer that way and buys him more time to decide how he wants to do it live.

But he's getting older and I want to hear the unreleased material live when he's still capable of rocking the shit out of it like he did with Chinese in 2010.

Duff and Slash can close the curtain when it's time, but to include them now when we only got half will change it, and I don't know that it needs changing.

This is all just guess work, but if he hires 2 unknown guitar players and tries to establish another nu incarnation of Guns when things are potentially cool between him and Slash, and Duff is a friend again, will Axl have enough time to release a reunion record?

I think what I'm saying is there's like 7 years for Axl to make his 2 cycles if he's in the mood.

And you can't have it both ways imo: the validity of everything Axl tried to do with new Guns will be damaged as soon as Slash is back and it will look bad.

If the art truly comes first, the artist must not get in the way of the music he believes in.

In my opinion, Axl is aware enough and cares enough about his music that if it feels wrong to include anyone, he just won't do it.

Problem is he is human and while it felt good to hear the stories about him and Duff and memories and nostalgia, it made me think of what if things are cool with Slash and Axl feels he can do something beyond nostalgia with Slash because he's nostalgic?

Even half a reunion changes everything. It's hard for me as a fan to know what I want Axl to say in the next interview he gives.

But logic says first finish what you're doing, and only then even risk what you've worked 10 years on. Fans should never come first, and certainly not nostalgia in this case imo, and I do want Slash and Duff back in Guns, but not on the expense of the rest of Chinese.

That's why I think put CD II out and Remix and re-release CD. Next year. Don't necessarily tour though. Maybe get Slash and Duff for a tour in 2018.

Or next year do a reunion tour kind of thing and delay the release maybe think of using Axl's material on a reunion record.

Why in the hell would they re-release CD?

Put out CD2 in May and do a summer tour. Bring Bumble back for that.

Make remix songs available on their website or ITunes.

Slash can finish up his touring and get his divorce finalized.

Reunion in 2017.

New album and tour starting in the summer.

[Swedish]

If they released a Live Era '00-'14 I would like them to have a track listing with at least 30% CD songs since I can enjoy seeing NuGN'R perform the CD material, but hearing them play You Could Be Mine only makes me think about how much better that song was when the old band played it.

If they did release a live album like that I would probably buy it just to own it but I can't see myself listen to it regularly, unless there is a performance on there that is truly great or a song that isn't in the setlist that often (like It's Alright and Coma from live era)!

I think Bucharest 2010 is probably Axl's best performance, out of all the bootlegs out there. He's as good as he was in his prime ('88-91), he sounds unreal on every song. If there's ever another single-show release, I hope it's that one.

I justed looked up some clips from that show on YouTube, WOW! I've never heard Axl in NuGN'R with this much rasp and power! Amazing! Would love a soundboard or good audience recorded bootleg of this!

[Rovim]

Why in the hell would they re-release CD?

Put out CD2 in May and do a summer tour. Bring Bumble back for that.

Make remix songs available on their website or ITunes.

Cause he said he always viewed Chinese as a double album. This can be a good way to present it like it was meant to be presented, with a little cool bonus that makes sense (the remix album) since this material has been worked on for years.

So Axl can do a cool box set with an unfucked booklet. Chinese, CD ll, and the remix.

Don't know if the label will go for it, or if Axl will do that, but Itunes doesn't seem to be how he prefers to release music on the rare occasion he actually does that. I think he's more traditional as a musician in that sense.

But the release can't and won't come before CD ll is released imo. Unless it's like a stop gap and I don't think Axl will do that, but it's possible.

[BangoSkank]

Absolutely. The band was on fire for most of those years.

Edited October 13, 2015 by BangoSkank

[wasted]

We can't lose it seems if CD ll sees the light of day. I believe Axl when he says the art comes first. Maybe there's a difficult decision for him to make right now.

Gold Chinese records sent, it seems he maybe focused on getting CD ll out and then there was that Slash comment and also... 3 band members left. I think regardless of whatever potentially can happen with Slash, Axl is not gonna keep the second half of his 10 year project unreleased. I still believe he will at least attempt to release it, and will want to tour in support of it and make some money.

Duff's time with Axl on the road and renewed friendship might be a factor here as well. Can't see anyone other than him with more power to convince Axl Slash is not evil anymore.

I see them as seperate, well I could. CD II or whatever it's called or some other record and touring could be seperated really. Touring now is a celebration of GNR of All Eras. The album has to live up to that and be or express whatever Axl thinks his final statement is. That's how it will be taken. If you are conscious of that or it weighs or has some meaning to the artist then you want it to be right. I don't think they could have made a better CD.

We'll have to wait and see if Axl can get the next one released then see who wants to tour. That's if he ever comes back or if a reunion doesn't just cancel all that.

He said he's not going anywhere, so that means either an album or a tour, and will he tour without another album released? who will he tour with doesn't really matter. Unless it's Slash for most people.

Thing is, there's an album that is pretty much ready to go. I always say this, but if it's in fact the second half of Chinese, that could have a lot of weight and meaning to Axl.

He can move forward and share his musical vision with the world, or he can go back and try to rebuild something that already was.

I said we can't lose cause either way, there is enough time to release CD ll.

I've thought about what if he releases CD ll and waits. Doesn't tour it right away like you said, seems like a good idea cause maybe it's safer that way and buys him more time to decide how he wants to do it live.

But he's getting older and I want to hear the unreleased material live when he's still capable of rocking the shit out of it like he did with Chinese in 2010.

Duff and Slash can close the curtain when it's time, but to include them now when we only got half will change it, and I don't know that it needs changing.

This is all just guess work, but if he hires 2 unknown guitar players and tries to establish another nu incarnation of Guns when things are potentially cool between him and Slash, and Duff is a friend again, will Axl have enough time to release a reunion record?

I think what I'm saying is there's like 7 years for Axl to make his 2 cycles if he's in the mood.

And you can't have it both ways imo: the validity of everything Axl tried to do with new Guns will be damaged as soon as Slash is back and it will look bad.

If the art truly comes first, the artist must not get in the way of the music he believes in.

In my opinion, Axl is aware enough and cares enough about his music that if it feels wrong to include anyone, he just won't do it.

Problem is he is human and while it felt good to hear the stories about him and Duff and memories and nostalgia, it made me think of what if things are cool with Slash and Axl feels he can do something beyond nostalgia with Slash because he's nostalgic?

Even half a reunion changes everything. It's hard for me as a fan to know what I want Axl to say in the next interview he gives.

But logic says first finish what you're doing, and only then even risk what you've worked 10 years on. Fans should never come first, and certainly not nostalgia in this case imo, and I do want Slash and Duff back in Guns, but not on the expense of the rest of Chinese.

That's why I think put CD II out and Remix and re-release CD. Next year. Don't necessarily tour though. Maybe get Slash and Duff for a tour in 2018.

Or next year do a reunion tour kind of thing and delay the release maybe think of using Axl's material on a reunion record.

Why in the hell would they re-release CD?

Put out CD2 in May and do a summer tour. Bring Bumble back for that.

Make remix songs available on their website or ITunes.

Slash can finish up his touring and get his divorce finalized.

Reunion in 2017.

New album and tour starting in the summer.

I just figured CD is sold out and could use the real booklet artwork etc. it could be an option to buy CD, CD II and Remix in one deluxe package.

If the next record is a stand alone record of any significance it will need touring.

But maybe the two things, albums and touring arent as connected anymore.

Some might be more interested in the studio album. Some will be more excited by the "reunion" tour.

It actually doesn't make much sense. You would like to see some passion behind releasing a album. Slash and Duff joining would totally void a record recorded without them? But didn't seem to be a problem when Dj n Ron joined but they don't have so much juice in GNR history.

if they repackaged the whole CD project and then let it have some time to settle.

Then like you said possible reunion.

[MrSoftie]

If they released a Live Era '00-'14 I would like them to have a track listing with at least 30% CD songs since I can enjoy seeing NuGN'R perform the CD material, but hearing them play You Could Be Mine only makes me think about how much better that song was when the old band played it.

If they did release a live album like that I would probably buy it just to own it but I can't see myself listen to it regularly, unless there is a performance on there that is truly great or a song that isn't in the setlist that often (like It's Alright and Coma from live era)!

I think Bucharest 2010 is probably Axl's best performance, out of all the bootlegs out there. He's as good as he was in his prime ('88-91), he sounds unreal on every song. If there's ever another single-show release, I hope it's that one.

I justed looked up some clips from that show on YouTube, WOW! I've never heard Axl in NuGN'R with this much rasp and power! Amazing! Would love a soundboard or good audience recorded bootleg of this!

Have a look in the downloads, there's a great audience bootleg of the whole show

[Gordon Comstock]

I think Bucharest 2010 is probably Axl's best performance, out of all the bootlegs out there. He's as good as he was in his prime ('88-91), he sounds unreal on every song. If there's ever another single-show release, I hope it's that one.

I justed looked up some clips from that show on YouTube, WOW! I've never heard Axl in NuGN'R with this much rasp and power! Amazing! Would love a soundboard or good audience recorded bootleg of this!

There's a pretty good audience recording of the whole show (I think) on youtube. It's easily one of the most consistent shows Axl's ever played, and he's at 100% the entire night.

[Nosaj Thing]

Yes, there's a good bootleg both audio and video. I have the audio and I gotta say that Axl sounds fantastic.

[Todo Poderoso Timão]

I'd be very interested in this. Be great if they could continue the releases to give us material from throughout the years, a little bit like Kiss did with Kissology.

Ideally they could pick tracks from throughout the era to cover all band members. Be great to have more official releases with Brain, Finck, Bucket and Bumble, although I'm personally not fussed about Ashba...

House of Blues 2001. Nothing else.

[double talkin jive mfkr]

fuck no

worst thread ever

yeah axl in his worst version ever

[axlslash]

Will it be as heavily retouched as Live Era? If so, yes. IF not, nah.

[trqster]

O2's '10 show would be probably the perfect DVD from the nuGn'R era with Duff's special appearance and top-notch vocals from Axl that night. Come on does ANYTHING on the '10 tour really beats this performance?

Edited October 15, 2015 by trqster