gnfnr2k Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Axl would sound even better if he would take the songs a few steps down like Plant does with Zeppelin and Tyler does with Aerosmith. Tons of singers that used to have a high range in their primes have stepped down some of their songs to make it easier to sing, Axl should do the same. It would save his voice for one and he would also sound much better. He shouldn't try to sing like he did in his 20s and early 30s. Axl aways songs really good when he sings in his normal voice or lower register its when he tries to hit those high octaves he starts to have his voice get all thing and Mickey like. would have to hear him try for a couple shows to see if it works out. Not sure what everyone else thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNFR Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 I don't know, sure they could do that yeah, but I've always liked the fact Axl's kept the original tunings, keep the music exactly as it should be. Give him something to work toward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) We had a topic about this a while ago -- I think they should totally try it! I don't quite understand the nature of Axl's voice and rasp... but it might make it easier for him and it'd still sound kick ass. I think it almost sounds better in some instances (Nightrain, 7mins in below)! I hope someone has ran it by him. Check this out: Edited April 11, 2016 by Ant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post highvoltage Posted April 11, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2016 I actually disagree. The highest notes are where Axl is currently at his best. LALD screams, the breakdown in better, opening scream on Jungle, etc.... He struggles when he tries to use his falsetto in his mid-high range instead of his chest voice. Lowering the songs would only make the songs more difficult for him to sing due to the falsetto style he's singing with these days. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 they could try should be fun to see how it goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ak1nney Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 I think he is so used to them at this range that it wouldn't really help. He should keep them where they are at until it's just not doable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oachs83 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Guns is already a half step down. Many of the 80's bands started in standard tuning and quickly realized if they wanted any voice half step down is where it saves you. Even Guns started in standard their very early days. Listen to Motley if you are curious what 80's Rock sounds like a full step down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 The thing is, a key of a song is part of what shaped the entire song. The tonic, what all the other notes revolve around, is part of why we perceive a song a certain way. Some bands can get away with it like Zeppelin, but I don't think you can alter the key center of GNR tunes without the entire vibe of the song changing as a result. Plus Axl sounds good, judging by how he sounds these past few shows I see no need for altering the key anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prez Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Lowering the key would make his singing worse. It's when he has to hit a really high note that his voice gets raspy. He can't help it. This was not an improvement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicDwolfwood Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Im not sure I agree, High notes dont seem to be the problem for Axl..I cant imagine these songs tuned down. alot of people are referencing Zeppelin, but I may be in the small minority in that I hated how many of the songs sounded on Celebration Day..Songs like whole lotta Love, Black Dog, etc sounded flat out wrong in D tuning. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War2k14 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 His higher rasp is strongest don't think it would help. It's when he hits mid range rasp his voice bottoms out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnr2k Posted April 11, 2016 Author Share Posted April 11, 2016 13 hours ago, GNFR said: 13 hours ago, highvoltage said: I actually disagree. The highest notes are where Axl is currently at his best. LALD screams, the breakdown in better, opening scream on Jungle, etc.... He struggles when he tries to use his falsetto in his mid-high range instead of his chest voice. Lowering the songs would only make the songs more difficult for him to sing due to the falsetto style he's singing with these days. so maybe I'm using the wrong terminology and what I really mean is singing less in his falsetto and use more head voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 14 hours ago, gnfnr2k said: Axl would sound even better if he would take the songs a few steps down like Plant does with Zeppelin and Tyler does with Aerosmith. Tons of singers that used to have a high range in their primes have stepped down some of their songs to make it easier to sing, Axl should do the same. It would save his voice for one and he would also sound much better. He shouldn't try to sing like he did in his 20s and early 30s. Axl aways songs really good when he sings in his normal voice or lower register its when he tries to hit those high octaves he starts to have his voice get all thing and Mickey like. would have to hear him try for a couple shows to see if it works out. Not sure what everyone else thinks. He might sound better but would the songs sound better? My point is that many GN'R songs wouldn't sound the same if sung in chest voice without that belting wail. So I don't think it is given that it would be better even if Axl's voice separately might be less strained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 A few steps? This isn't Doom Metal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russel Nash Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 why would they want to change something that works really really good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnr2k Posted April 11, 2016 Author Share Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Russel Nash said: why would they want to change something that works really really good? because sounds like shit when he sings in that voice Edited April 11, 2016 by gnfnr2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john lennon Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Nah. Axl's voice ain't shot, he just lacks the power. Exercise and a healthy diet would be much better than taking the songs a step or three down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenan Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 GNR always play at half-step down. Not sure going any lower would be good for the songs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEJOBLIN Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 You CANNOT change the tuning of a song, and have it sound the same. I listened to Judas Priest play "Another Thing Coming" live on a video, and the beginning is them chugging in F# minor on the power chord. Well, this show, they had tuned down a whole step to make the song "heavier" and you couldn't even recognize what song they were trying to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Un42nutzly Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 I disagree! I recently saw Chris Cornell perform acoustically, and as soon as he played "Nearly Forgot My Broken Heart", I could tell it had been tuned down. It sounded uncomfortable/unsteady compared to the studio version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cantona Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) Yeah! Welcome To The Jungle, Sweet Child O' Mine, Paradise City, Scraped, all the classics in C Standard! That'll sound wicked! lol don't downtune it pls, e flat is good Edited April 11, 2016 by AslatIE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosonen Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Never. Axl has no problem hitting those high notes, rasp or not. I understand if singer simply cant hit the notes anymore, and it helps to try half step down, its ok. Whole step down....it changes the music too much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleyavu Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Are you really talking and discussing about how one of the best singer/vocalist of all time should sing??? Dont you want to discuss about how Picasso should paint too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Jay Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Guns songs are already half a step down. Lowering that "a few steps" and you've got Jungle in C# or Better would be in drop B, great idea OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Considering Axl's voice condition, they're better off getting baritone guitars then. Coma's outro was terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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