StoneTempleRoses Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 I love the song but I really don't think I understand what is being said. Who are Riad and the Bedouins? Who doesn't give a fuck about them and what war is he talking about? All that it makes me think of are like Arabs. Is that anything close to what he's talking about. Is it a middle eastern war type of song? Riad N' The Bedouins Had a plan and thought they'd win But I don't give a fuck 'bout them 'Cause I am crazy Oh, my salvation All my frustrations Caught in the lies no one had wove as well Somewhere in time where only I could tell, oh Riad N' The Bedouins Say that's a war that you can't win But I have had enough of them And who can blame me Sent down on desert winds Nomads and barbarians I won't bend my will to them You aggravate me Oh, my salvation All my frustrations Caught in the lies no one had wove as well Somewhere in time where only I could tell, oh Riad N' The Bedouins Had a plan and though they'd win Riad N' The Bedouins Crossed the line and lost again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 I don't even think Axl can explain Riad and the Bedouins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liers Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 (edited) It's a conspiracy song. There's a quote somewhere where Axl talks about Riad being his former brother in law who apparently is an international arms dealer who causes wars... honestly I think axl was out of his mind when he wrote that... it's a good song though IMO. Not sure why it gets so much hate. Also has one of Pitman's biggest contributions to GnR. Edited April 29, 2016 by liers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lies They Tell Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Here's the quote, that liers was talking about: ''Riad is the name my one time momentary brother in law and the former brother in law of Erin Everly, went by when i knew him. Of part Lebanese descent and a former student of Pepperdine University, he claims to be an international arms dealer, billionaire with ambitions of being "king of the world". He claims to fund several medical organizations and underground Nazi organizations around the world who says his heroes are Napolean and Adolph Hitler. He claims his most prized asset is his anonymity. He also claims to be an expert in military strategy, and was the inspiration for the guns song Civil War, which was written per his request for a song how "people were stupid and he could sell them anything because men love to kill each other". He also claims to be an expert in global finance and money laundering. Living tax free in Belair last I was aware, and claiming to launder monies for wealthy individuals in several countries." It's from the alternative CD booklet. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneTempleRoses Posted April 29, 2016 Author Share Posted April 29, 2016 Hmmm that is really strange. Is there somewhere I can see or at least read this "alternative CD booklet" How was it obtained? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, StoneTempleRoses said: Hmmm that is really strange. Is there somewhere I can see or at least read this "alternative CD booklet" How was it obtained? It's in the Red Hand version (cover B). There was originally going to be 3 releases of CD (the artwork we got, the Red Hand, and the Grenade cover), but obviously only the bike cover came out. (Though, the Red Hand was used when they 'released' it on Rock Band). Several promo copies of the Red Hand CD were sent out apparently, because some people got their hands on it and scanned the booklet for the rest of us*. I'm too lazy to dig through the Use Your Illusion section but I'm sure there's a somewhat long thread about the alt. CD booklets. There's very few copies of the Grenade version apparently but some people have got their hands on it, too. *There was one guy on ebay who had a whole box of promo copies, I don't know how many he sold in total though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 12 minutes ago, StoneTempleRoses said: Hmmm that is really strange. Is there somewhere I can see or at least read this "alternative CD booklet" How was it obtained? It's at the bottom, zoom in 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obsession Of Vanity Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 (edited) CSI:GNR should look at public records to identify of Riad and solve the mystery. Edited April 29, 2016 by Obsession Of Vanity Too stoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willl Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Came in the thread to post the alternate artwork including Axls comments but someone beat me to it All I have left to contribute is that Tommy Stinson co-wrote the song with Axl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 (edited) Out Ta Get Me II - more about lawyers and conjuring up Lawrence of Arabia, Three Kings, Iraq war imagery. Edited April 29, 2016 by dalsh327 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 My guess is Riad is that phony arms dealer and the Bedouins are Erin and Stephanie. In that case it's about the court they brought against him. But it also could be about Slash and GNR. The lies the told, only he knows the truth, but he doesn't care. Also thought how it could work for you if you were in the iraq war. It's weird that that war "ended" in 2011 and that was when the CD era ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philipm787 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 It is one of the worst songs ever written. Pure shite, imo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 3 hours ago, wasted said: My guess is Riad is that phony arms dealer and the Bedouins are Erin and Stephanie. In that case it's about the court they brought against him. But it also could be about Slash and GNR. The lies the told, only he knows the truth, but he doesn't care. Also thought how it could work for you if you were in the iraq war. It's weird that that war "ended" in 2011 and that was when the CD era ended. Also have to remember some of these songs were pre- 9/11 up to invading Iraq and there might be some political/war themed songs in the vault. I can't imagine him not writing a '9/11 song', and he just buried it, erased it, ripped it out of the notebook, deleted it from his computer. But there would have been a backlash if he was making his courtroom battle analogies to wartime, which would have pissed a lot of veterans off. 12 minutes ago, Philipm787 said: It is one of the worst songs ever written. Pure shite, imo. Makes one wonder how those songs 'in the vault' really are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Also: http://www.a-4-d.com/t189-riad-n-the-bedouins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Here's my scan of the alt booklet with the Riad info: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddick Bowe Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Was the red hand alt. booklet released officially? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-W.A.R- Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 13 hours ago, liers said: It's a conspiracy song. There's a quote somewhere where Axl talks about Riad being his former brother in law who apparently is an international arms dealer who causes wars... honestly I think axl was out of his mind when he wrote that... it's a good song though IMO. Not sure why it gets so much hate. Also has one of Pitman's biggest contributions to GnR. the only part i like is Oh, my salvation All my frustrations Caught in the lies no one had wove as well Somewhere in time where only I could tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheapJon Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 (edited) I used to think that Slash was Rhiad and the other old members were the bedouins. Why Axl would call them that I had no idea but the lyrics being about them made sense in my head at the time. Edited April 29, 2016 by CheapJon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 I doubt Riad was his name. Shouldn't be hard to find in an alumni directory or wedding announcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumblefeet Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Can someone explain to me what the aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa' a' aaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaa Part is about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfAGun Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bumblefeet said: Can someone explain to me what the aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa' a' aaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaa Part is about? Yes, a massive lack of lyrical inspiration. After 10-15 years of fucking around in studios. Edited April 29, 2016 by SoundOfAGun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR 1991 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Just now, SoundOfAGun said: Yes, a massive lack of lyrical inspiration. After 10-15 of fucking around in studios. Riad was first played in 2001, so you're saying it was written sometime between 1986 and 1991? Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfAGun Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 1 minute ago, GNR 1991 said: Riad was first played in 2001, so you're saying it was written sometime between 1986 and 1991? Interesting. Sorry, he must have got that one together in less than a decade. Go Axl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 8 hours ago, Riddick Bowe said: Was the red hand alt. booklet released officially? Sort of? lol. It was completely prepped for release. All known copies were in shrink wrap complete with the "Best Buy Exclusive" hype sticker. I don't believe any were ever sold at retail though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanity_lost Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 14 hours ago, RussTCB said: Here's my scan of the alt booklet with the Riad info: I think I am even more confused now than I was before. Thanks for that. I appreciate it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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