downzy Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, soon said: The above conversation with Downzy and Soul making odd claims about scripture and "responding" etiquette started in the US thread and was moved here. Because this religion thread has been so poorly modded, many Christians have chosen to not post here. I will honour the request of my Siblings to quit this thread. Cue lies about my motives! Mutually reinforce your fragile positions and dishonest assertions! So because you don't agree with the modding in this thread (which, by the way, has never been reported to any mod or admin), you're going to duck out on providing any further explanation? Well, guess you got your out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 7 hours ago, soon said: I will honour the request of my Siblings to quit this thread. Cue lies about my motives! Mutually reinforce your fragile positions and dishonest assertions! Why do you write "siblings" with a capital S? And what? 7 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: If you are the societal grouping most unwilling to vote NSDAP, and that is most liable to be attacked by the Nazis when the Nazis are in power, you are probably doing something right. Surely not if it is because they are opposed to your molesting ways 😉. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 3 hours ago, SoulMonster said: Why do you write "siblings" with a capital S? And what? Surely not if it is because they are opposed to your molesting ways 😉. I'm not Catholic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 minute ago, DieselDaisy said: I'm not Catholic. I wasn't talking about you. Just like you weren't talking about me when you in the previous sentence wrote, "If you are the societal grouping most unwilling to vote NSDAP" (my emphasis). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 At the suggestion and agreement of a few posters, posts that linked Onion articles have been moved to the No Holds Barred discussion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Len Cnut Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 53 minutes ago, Sosso said: Its curious that for an allegedly unaltered document its actually written extremely different than most arabic Qu'ran you'll get in most bookshops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I believe in a thing called science, God, and Philosophy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I believe in a thing called love. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, EvanG said: I believe in a thing called love. That's all you need 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 20/03/2019 at 12:21 PM, lukepowell1988 said: It was always going to be Birmingham or Bradford where this would be discovered right? They should of claimed discovery in Luton just to watch the skin head EDL idiot's heads roll!! Fuck me a 1300 year old load of nonsense. Absolute bollocks! All these books are absolute cobblers because their individual sky fairies are no more real than Rupert the Bear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Rovim said: I believe in a thing called science, God, and Philosophy You can have god or science but not both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dazey said: You can have god or science but not both. mistake. you can have more takes though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, Rovim said: mistake. you can have more takes though They are kind of mutually exclusive. The bibble isn’t big on science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Dazey said: They are kind of mutually exclusive. The bibble isn’t big on science. I disagree with the first part of your sentence. The second part: maybe it is very big on science. Wink. perhaps there are more than 1 truth, perhaps there are 2, maybe even 3 that make it the whole truth and nothing butt. Hemorrhoids. I think it's a triangle. Edited March 21, 2019 by Rovim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Rovim said: I disagree with the first part of your sentence. The second part: maybe it is very big on science. Wink. perhaps there are more than 1 truth, perhaps there are 2, maybe even 3 that make it the whole truth and nothing butt. Hemorrhoids. I think it's a triangle. Existence of God rests on a foundation of nothing. Any assumptions on the existence of gods is therefore not very scientific. Just like it would be unscientific to claim that unicorns exist. Religious scientists make me cringe. I am not saying they can't be good scientists, but there is some serious unresolved cognitive dissonance going on there. It is in a sense intellectually immature to not apply the same intellectual approach to one's own beliefs as one would to anything else in the world, especially when you are trained to do so as a scientist. And no, the bible isn't scientific at all. Mostly because science as a method wasn't developed by then so it is as weak on science as it is on, say, thermodynamics. Whatever claims it makes about the natural world, and it makes lots of them, are derived from religious revelation (which is as unscientific as it goes), traditional beliefs, and results from deduction and proto-scientific experiments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 hours ago, SoulMonster said: Existence of God rests on a foundation of nothing. Any assumptions on the existence of gods is therefore not very scientific. Just like it would be unscientific to claim that unicorns exist. Religious scientists make me cringe. I am not saying they can't be good scientists, but there is some serious unresolved cognitive dissonance going on there. It is in a sense intellectually immature to not apply the same intellectual approach to one's own beliefs as one would to anything else in the world, especially when you are trained to do so as a scientist. And no, the bible isn't scientific at all. Mostly because science as a method wasn't developed by then so it is as weak on science as it is on, say, thermodynamics. Whatever claims it makes about the natural world, and it makes lots of them, are derived from religious revelation (which is as unscientific as it goes), traditional beliefs, and results from deduction and proto-scientific experiments. but you look at it only from a scientific approach. so you assume the bible is false, this conversation cannot go anywhere constructive imo but I respect your opinion as I don't claim to know what you know from your angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 5 hours ago, Rovim said: but you look at it only from a scientific approach. so you assume the bible is false, this conversation cannot go anywhere constructive imo but I respect your opinion as I don't claim to know what you know from your angle. Since the scientific method is the only method for figuring out things about our world that has been shown to consistently give good results, there really is no other sensible way to look at it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 37 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: Since the scientific method is the only method for figuring out things about our world that has been shown to consistently give good results, there really is no other sensible way to look at it. sometimes what makes sense to us is a lie like the world was thought to be flat. it made perfect sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, Rovim said: sometimes what makes sense to us is a lie like the world was thought to be flat. it made perfect sense. What makes sense to us is often wrong. We are stupid. Hence the scientific method which has been designed to compensate for humans' cognitive errors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: What makes sense to us is often wrong. We are stupid. Hence the scientific method which has been designed to compensate for humans' cognitive errors. maybe it was designed by God. Perhaps God is a more advanced form of life. Edited March 22, 2019 by Rovim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Rovim said: maybe it was designed by God. Perhaps God is a more advanced form of life. Sure. But that is again a belief build on a foundation of nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: Sure. But that is again a belief build on a foundation of nothing. just because it hasn't been proven doesn't mean it's nothing. the truth is out there for science to seek and find although I do think science is progressing slowly. the pace the slow considering what we know. where's the cure for cancer, hell, where the cure for baldness? for hair cells to grow back? where are the balls to research stem cells? against the law. no balls. science is not the only true method to advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Rovim said: where the cure for baldness? You would think they would have solved that, wouldn't you? Especially considering the fact that it is a male issue and science has been a bit of a sausage party for most of its history. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Just now, Rovim said: just because it hasn't been proven doesn't mean it's nothing. the truth is out there for science to seek and find although I do think science is progressing slowly. the pace the slow considering what we know. where's the cure for cancer, hell, where the cure for baldness? for hair cells to grow back? where are the balls to research stem cells? against the law. no balls. science is not the only true method to advance. When something hasn't been proven, and has no supportive evidence, then it is likely not to exist. And when that "something" is a supernatural entity, then it is even less likely to be real. And I can't for the loive of me understand why anyone would think it makes sense to believe in something that is that implausible. I suppose it comes from desire and hope? Science works slowly yes, but it is still the best method we have. I mean, as far as knowledge-generating methods go, nothing beats science's CV. What other methods are there, really? Religious revelation? Divination? Gut feeling? Yeah, like any of those came up with the theory of relativity, the laws of thermodynamics, the synthetic theory of evolution, and resulted in just about every technological advance we have had, including the ability to fly, land on the moon, build computers, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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