Haters Gonna Hate Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Lio said: Intriguing. Is that Japanese? Who could help us translate and tell us what it is? @estrangedtwat or @amaninjapan, maybe? rough google translation I did Chinese democracy was created about 14 years ago, and many songs were recorded in the process. In the process, many songs were ended, but were not included in the final album. This project was costly to read and had multiple producers. One of them is Tom Zutaut. This box set contains many recordings from the project, but an external storage facility previously owned by Tom Zutaut. The box set contains the following tracks: Rough Mix CD # 1 1. Madagascar-11 / 05/00 (drum addition) 5:37 2. TWAT -10/12/00 (# 10) 5:10 3. Atlas Shrugd-3 / 27/00 (25 4:12 4. Probably -3/27/00 19) 3:56 5. Prostitution-3/27/00 (23) 6:10 6. Riyadh-11 / 07/00 (Ver.1) 3:33 7. Catcher-3 / 27/00 (30) 5:35 8. Chinese democracy-11 / 05/00 (Ver.1 3:12 9. Bruce-10 / 23/00 (# 6) 4:44 10. Silkworm-11 / 07/00 (Ver.1) 3:33 rough mix CD # 2 1. PRL 11/08/00 w / out THYME (without gtrs 3:54 2. Your eyes 11 / e7 / 00 (VER.1) 3:36 3. If the world is "IF THE WORLDJ 11/07/00 (VER.1) 5:05 4. D0 ge 11/07 / ee (VER.1) 4:10 5. Quick Song 3/27/00 (10) 4:00 6. Sodiac 13 (without vox) 11/08/00 (VER.4) 4:38 7. Tonto 7/14/00 BLK / FRG dat (# 3) 3 : 54 8. Real doll.com 9/14 / 0e B. Head cd (# 2) 4:04 9. Shacklers Revenge 9/14/00 cd (# 1) 3:26 10. I'm sorry 10/26/09 B. Head CD (# 1) 6:00 Ruff Minx CD # 3 Billionaire-10 / 15/00 BLK / FR G (dat # 2) 1:31 2. Dub Sabrex -10/05/00 BLK / FRG (dat # 5) 3:02 3. Grace-3 / 27/00 (12) 4:00 4. Oklahoma -3/23/00 (10) 4:12 Yokoshima asshole -10/05/00 (# 6) 3:26 6. 1.RS -3/27/00 (21) 4:14 7. Hard school 11 / 08/00 (NJ AXO (12) 3:58 8. Me-10 / 05/00 (# 😎 6:24 Rough Mix CD # 4 1. Me & My Elvis-3 / 23/00 (# 10) 5: 40 Rough Mix CD # 2 1. PRL 11/08/09 w / out gtrs 2. Your eyes 11/07/00 (VER.1) 3:36 3. If the world is "IF THE WORLDJ 11/07/00 ( VER.1) 5:05 4.D0 gen 11/07/00 (VER.1) 4:10 5. Quick Song 3/27/00 (10) 4:09 6. Sodiac 13 (without vox) 11/08 / 00 (VER.4) 4:38 7. Tonto 7/14/00 BLK / FRG dat (# 3) 3:54 8. Real doll.com 9/14/00 B. Head cd (# 2) 4: 04 9. Shacklers Rebunge 9/14/00 cd (# 1) 3:26 10. I'm sorry 10e / 26/00 B. Head cd (# 1) 6:00 Rough Mix CD # 3 1.100M 10/15/09 BLK / FRG (dat # 2) 1:31 2. Dub Sabrex -10/05/00 BLK / FRG (dat # 5) 3:02 3. Grace-3 / 27/00 (12 ) 4:00 4. Oklahoma-3 / 23/00 (10) 4:12 5. Yokoshima Bastard -10/05/00 (# 6) 3:26 6. IRS -3/27/00 (21) 4: 14 7. Hard School-11 / 08/00 (NU AXO (12) 3:58 8. Me-10 / 05/00 (# 😎 6:24 Rough Mix CD # 4 1. Me & My Elvis-3 / 23 / 00 (# 10) 5:40 2. Circus Maximus-11 / 07/00 (Ver.1) 4:30 3. D Tune-3 / 23/60 (11) 5:16 4. Curly Shuffle-3 / 23/00 (15) 3:43 5. Nothing -11 / e8 / 00 (Ver.1) 3:50 6 As It Begin-11 / 07/00 (Ver. 1) 3:51 7. Time-11 / 08/00 (PRL) 1: 5S Lopin Tommy Demo 1. Inside Out 2. $ 3 Pyramid 3. Tommy Demo # 1 4. Tommy Demo # 2 Rough Mix 1. Chinese democracy (double guitar) 2. Chinese democracy (single guitar) 3. Quick song 4. Prostitution (original drum) 5. Prostitution (chop drum) 6 Blues 7. Rhiad & the Bediuns 8. TWAT 9. Atlas Shrugd 10. Sodiak 13 Syllabus Brain New Dom 1. “Madagascar” -Drums Up ** (Version Tom 2. “Madacascar”-Instrumental Drum Up 3. “Madagascar” 3 dB Drum Down 4. “Madagascar-3 Db Inktrumental Drum 5. "Madagascar"-Old Josh Drum 6. "Madagascar"-Original Brain Drum 7. "Chinese Democracy"-Old Josh Drum 8. "Chinese Democracy"-New Brain Drum 9. "The Blues" -Old Josh Drums 10. "The Blues"-New Brain Drum 11. "Rhiad"-Old Josh Drum 12. Rhiad-New Brain Drum Likes Madagascar New Brain Drum Rough Mix 1. With Vocal 2. Instrumental Riad New brain drum take 1. Original rough mix 2. Final rough mix with pressure (normal level vocals) 3. Final mix with pressure (vocal up) 4. Pressure Final rough mix without vocals (normal level vocals) 5. Final rough mix without compression (vocal up) Blues takes a new brain drum 1. Normal level vocals 2. Vocal down 1 Db 3. Instrument New Brain Drum Remixes with Mental Rough Mix Ax1 1. “Lead” 2. FRhiadj (Eq'd Toms) 3. “Prostitution” 4. “Blues” TWAT Rough mix of new brain drums 1. Drum atmosphere 2. Less drums) compression only 4. String up 5. Increase Old Beaven Vience Chinese democratic new fight drum (3 @ eye) 1. Normal level drum and guitar 2.1 de drum up 3.2 dB drum up 4.2.5 dB up to guitar, normal level drum 5. Guitar up to 1.5 dB 6 Guitar up 0.7 dB 7. Normal level drum and guitar instrumental quick song packet take 1. Full take without vocals 2. Take 3 from start with full take clopins solo by Vocal 4. Take 1 5. Take 2 6. Take 3 7. Take 4 8. Take 5 9. Take 6 10. Take 7 11. Take 8 12. Take 9 13. Take 10 14. Take 11 15. Take 12 16. Take 13 17. Take 14 18 .Take 15 19.Take 16 AXL 8/14 alt knock-in / jungle 1. Knockin-(Acoustic Version) W / Axl Take 3 2.Warm-up 3.Knockin "(Electric Version) Take 5 4.Welcome to the jungle 5. Knockin '(Acoustic Version) Get 3 from 10/8/01 New song straight analog down Over de (These are not in the mix) violence prom 1. Take 2 3. Take 3 three US dollars of the pyramid 3. Take 2 4. Take 4 Straight Analog Town 1. Tik 1 Road (This is not a mix) Atlas Shrugd New Doum 1. Normal bell drum 2.1.5 Db drum up 3.1.5 Db drum down TWAT “Silkworms” snare smble and brain 1.Ambiance town, mono room off 2.Atmosphere with mono room 3.Original level atmosphere 4.Snare ensemble only during outro 5.Old snare in the first half, Leak prior to snare ensemble only 1. IRS (2006) 2. A certain time (TWAT.) (2006) (short) 3. A certain era (TWAT) (2006) (long) 4. Better (2006) 5. Catcher in Rye Expense Field (1999) 6. Better (2006) (instrumental) 7. IRS (2006) (instrumental) 8. A time (TMAT.) (2006) (instrumental long) 9. Zeasezea time (TWAT) (2006) (instrumental short) 10. 1.RS ( 1999) 11. Zey's A Time (T (WAT) (1999) 12. Checkmate (1999) 13. Better (2007) 14. Madagascar (2007) 15. Chinese Democracy 2007) 16. The Blues (2007) 17. IRS (2007) 18. (TMAT) (2007) 19. Better (2008) 20. Chinese democracy (2008) 21. IRS (2008) 22. Madagascar (2ee8) 23. Bruce (2008) 24. An era (TMAT) 25. New Song # 1 (Riad N'The Bedouins) (2008) 26. New Song # 2 (Sales) (2008) 27. New Song # 3 (If The World) (2008) 28. Chicken Dinner (2008) Product Code: 2200891V Price : 58,676 yen (tax included) Points: 42 Quantity 1 Edited August 29, 2019 by Haters Gonna Hate 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR™ Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 it's not on that store anymore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Holy fuck...it looks like they have Bucket's version of Shackler's too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haters Gonna Hate Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 minute ago, RussTCB said: Someone buy those discs! They are not on the site anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shackler's Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) . Edited March 3, 2020 by Shackler's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 For GNR nerds this is essentially Christmas morning ; ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdfdemocracy1979 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 I want that box it looks awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Rose Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Sydney Fan said: The production sounds different with the newer leak. With the first LQ leak I had issues with the vocals and said it would have made a nice b-side in 1999. I am loving it now, even more with the 320 leak, and I am constantly playing bits from it in my head all day. I really think Robin and Axl compliment eachother so well melodically. 3 hours ago, SilverMachine said: Kind of understand why Finck was pissed off about Buckethead - those songs didn't need him. Axl could have taken over the world again with either of them if he'd put out a record every 3 years starting in '99. But to have both of them...the potential and possibilities were endless whether you put them together on Twat or work separately. 6 hours ago, betterman said: According to a poster on reddit, this supposedly was tracklist of CDII: The General Zodiac Quick Song Ides Of March State Of Grace Berlin Seven Atlas Shrugged Silkworms Down By The Sea Jackie Chan Thyme Perhaps Rearrange Life Soul Monster The fact it says Jackie Chan suggests it's written by someone who didn't know it was really called Hard School. Plus I don't believe Quick Song is a finished/real title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Did someone manage to buy them before they got taken down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fried chicken Posted August 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2019 yokashima arsehole thats sounds like a good track . ha ha 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haters Gonna Hate Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Just now, rocknroll41 said: Did someone manage to buy them before they got taken down? They either got brought or taken down. Hopefully brought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.. Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Was it taken down or no more supplies? Fuck, I hope someone will actually get this and leak this. Looks like everything we wanted is in this box. If a link comes back, I can buy it and share it afterwards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appetite4illusions Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Great to hear all these, but I disagree with lots of people on the mixing. I hear a mess, just like I'm sure Jimmy Iovine and his people must have. The bass is THUNDEROUS. Like it manages to diminish most of the songs. The interesting guitar textures and keyboard sounds in the 1999 demos are still here, but they are played down and subservient to the BOOM. Songs like The Blues, go off the rails with the production - too many things going on... I've always, always wanted to hear the 99 album, now that I've heard a good portion of the songs from that era - I'm undecided. I like what's going on for the most part - but the mix is in such dire straits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Yeah, at first I thought they might have 42 copies, but google translate says 'points:42', so not sure what that's about. Let's hope we'll hear from it soon enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdfdemocracy1979 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 38 minutes ago, GS67 said: Why Now you know why 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoymatic Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said: Did someone manage to buy them before they got taken down? I bet! I was getting my credit card ready but someone beat me to it. Hopefully whoever ordered it will share. That track list is CRAZY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Rose Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) How fucking sad is it that Axl sat at a piano with Ashba ten years ago playing and singing songs he'd recorded ten years earlier and we're here ten years later still waiting to hear them. And there's as good as Hard School. If this record had come out in 1999 and been toured and a follow up with Bucket in 2002.....they wouldn't have needed to play all of Appetite every night and would have made a whole new generation of fans. If you think back to what the musical landscape was....Baby One More Time and Limp Biscuits.....this would have cut so hard through everything. Edited August 29, 2019 by Jordan Rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoymatic Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 44 minutes ago, Stoymatic said: https://m.imgur.com/a/DjxUzga I’d like to know how someone that doesn’t live in America got the disks? Ole Tommy Z had his locker in the USA! Did someone pull a major hack move? Or again, was there multiple copies of the 15 disks??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.. Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Thanks for the translation! Based on the listing, it's pretty clear the person who leaked Hard School & all of the 99 sessions is already in possession of everything listed in this boxset. I hope he can leak the rest 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS67 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Stoymatic said: I bet! I was getting my credit card ready but someone beat me to it. Hopefully whoever ordered it will share. That track list is CRAZY Seemed the tracklist was in Chinese. Can you write the list here ? Edited August 29, 2019 by GS67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Stoymatic said: I’d like to know how someone that doesn’t live in America got the disks? Ole Tommy Z had his locker in the USA! Did someone pull a major hack move? Or again, was there multiple copies of the 15 disks??? The person in Japan who just sold them probably flew to the US to go get them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said: The person in Japan who just sold them probably flew to the US to go get them. Didnnt HOB come from Japan too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS67 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Has the media picked up on the 2 day leak blowout blitz? Curious on the main music magazines and critics if they approve of these versions as well over the final album Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Just now, GS67 said: Has the media picked up on the 2 day leak blowout blitz? Curious on the main music magazines and critics if they approve of these versions as well over the final album They probably don’t care lol. It’s not 2008 anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azifwekare Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 I would sell my grandmother for that boxset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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