BlueJean Baby Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 No just the 11 last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Loving Catcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay410 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 The general trend seems to be the earlier version the song, the better it is. Chinese Democracy works so much better as a raw rocker, Catcher in the Rye is leagues better stripped back and with the May solo. The Blues works so much better with the loud intro that was present in ‘02. I don’t imagine these are final mixes but you can easily imagine final mixes of these arrangements that were perfectly suitable for release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I'm absolutely loving the shit out of all the Chris Pitman on The Blues. Hearing it like this, this is the first time I've really gotten the early version of The Blues. Riad is brutally raw - after hearing this, I'm inclined to say that it's the most overproduced and bloated song on the album. I love the Freese version of CD, this version really packs a punch. Not sure yet if I prefer the double tracked vocals from the album version or not, but otherwise I miss CD being a concise, 3 minute rocker. Going Down is interesting. Again, not sure which version I prefer yet - I think I'm leaning towards the older leak we have, but this mix is miles ahead so it's a hard comparison to make. It's certainly interesting as it's quite different. TWAT benefitted the most from continual tinkering - the Bucket solo absolutely elevates that song from a good song to an epic song. My ideal version of TWAT would be the album version without the stupid sound effects over the intro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyWoodRose84 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 On 8/29/2019 at 3:22 PM, angriestwhopper said: Just listened to all the leaks. I can see why they wanted axl to re record it all as it sounds sonically shite. The songs themselves are great and as a finished product. Axl was clearly too stubborn to re record it quickly. It would have flopped massively in comparison to velvet Revolver and it's just a missed opportunity. Fair opinion but that caused the album ended up sounding overproduced. There’s maybe one or two songs at most where the album versions are better than the demos. My gut instinct says they won’t be making the same mistake this time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnrfan2001 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Powerage5 said: I'm absolutely loving the shit out of all the Chris Pitman on The Blues. Hearing it like this, this is the first time I've really gotten the early version of The Blues. They're coming around, by jove! They're finally all coming around! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fried chicken Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Are We Rocking ? can you hear me knocking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
History2010 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Hey we are back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gnrfan2001 said: They're coming around, by jove! They're finally all coming around! I've always been around when it comes to Mother Goose's Super Funky Techno BeatsTM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarpatch Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Rubbing my eyes looking out across a beautiful morning. Are we wake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner55 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 WHAT YEAR IS IT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycgunner Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Welcome back! Now on to these leaks... Fortunately they weren’t too challenging to find. They make for a fun listen, but what struck me is 1. Axl’s vocal takes largely survived in tact 2. The early Chinese Democracy sounds great but I love the studio version also. There was a Time and Prostitute benefited from the continual tinkering 3. Not sure I agree with the general consensus these are better than the 2008 album. Overall, I am quite happy with the album we got relative to these versions. Maybe IRS and CITR 1999 are better, but that’s it. Granted, the 8-9 year wait wasn’t worth it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Gunner55 said: WHAT YEAR IS IT? Chinese Democracy Starts Now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fried chicken Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I Have Just Planted 20 packets of leeks in soil , Hope they dont take 20 years to grow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post allwaystired Posted August 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2019 (Potentially) controversial opinion: nothing on these leaks sounds better than the finished product we got. It's obviously great to hear them, but I wouldn't exchange a single one for the final versions we heard. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-W.A.R- Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I like how these leaks literally broke the site 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fried chicken Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, allwaystired said: (Potentially) controversial opinion: nothing on these leaks sounds better than the finished product we got. It's obviously great to hear them, but I wouldn't exchange a single one for the final versions we heard. Agreed There isnt a better album this century ..... well if you like multi layers and stuff . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyman Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Listening to these just makes me sad to think we could've (and should've) had CD in '99/2000ish. It definitely would've been received much better than the final product was, especially since the general public still gave a shit or were perplexed by the mystique still. Plus we'd probably at least have CD 2 by now, right? Right?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AxlRoseCDII Posted August 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2019 Little off topic but I missed this site way too much when it was down lol. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just out of curiosity, how are there still 50+ Guests when now you have to log in to be able to even get on the forum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, jamillos said: Just out of curiosity, how are there still 50+ Guests when now you have to log in to be able to even get on the forum? The traffic counter shows all traffic that lands anywhere on the site, even if it's a login page, or a page telling them we're currently in members only mode. Therefore, if you have 50+ people viewing the forum but not logged in, they count as guests. At least that's my understanding, maybe @downzy can clarify if I got that wrong 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 13 minutes ago, AxlRoseCDII said: Little off topic but I missed this site way too much when it was down lol. Sorry about that. Wish it could be avoided but as I explain here, had to be done: 2 minutes ago, Powerage5 said: The traffic counter shows all traffic that lands anywhere on the site, even if it's a login page, or a page telling them we're currently in members only mode. Therefore, if you have 50+ people viewing the forum but not logged in, they count as guests. At least that's my understanding, maybe @downzy can clarify if I got that wrong Yep. Anyone who visits the site, whether a signed in member or a visitor, counts as a simultaneous users for what I believe is 5 minutes, though it could be 15 (can't remember). So the 50+ visitors are likely people who are not members but coming by to see if the forum is back online. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caedo Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 So based on what's leaked and other info, would the only songs that made it onto CD that were written/recorded after 1999 be Scraped, Sorry, Shacklers, Better and If the World? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadSlash Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 20 minutes ago, AxlRoseCDII said: Little off topic but I missed this site way too much when it was down lol. I thought Atlas had leaked for sure when I saw that it was down! I couldn't imagine what else would have broken the internet. Still pretty good get, but I thought it was going to be like *everything* on those Tommy Z discs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Caedo said: So based on what's leaked and other info, would the only songs that made it onto CD that were written/recorded after 1999 be Scraped, Sorry, Shacklers, Better and If the World? I mean, we already knew everything else was around long before CD anyways - Chinese Democracy, The Blues, Riad, and Maddy were all debuted live in 2001. TWAT, Catcher, and Prostitute had all been mentioned as song titles by about 200, and TIL was a known song title much earlier than that IIRC. The first time the title IRS was mentioned to my knowledge was 2003 when it was played on that radio show, though we later learned it had been around since 1999 when the 99 demo first leaked in 2006. We also don't know that none of those songs were around by 1999, we just don't know that they were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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