DTJ80 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 1 minute ago, GnR Chris said: They have to save something for the next anniversary to sell to us. I’ll buy it too 🤣 In all seriousness…I hope they do see the light of day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russel Nash Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Jw224 said: I think the new mix is great, drums sound a lot better and the new orchestra is great. I even like the different mixing on the outro everyone seems to be complaining about. Only complaint I could have is that it's compressed to shit, it sounds pretty decent considering that, though. Kinda lame they rejected his mixes of the albums imo. This, i like it better than the original. The orchestra is great, the only thing i would change is the Axl piano mix. It's under a lot of things and it should be on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uruguns Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Why isn't Steven Wilson credited? Quote November Rain (2022 Version) · Guns N' Roses November Rain (2022 Version) ℗ A Geffen Records Release; ℗ 2022 GN'R Records Released on: 2022-11-04 Producer, Studio Personnel, Engineer: Mike Clink Producer: Guns N' Roses Studio Personnel, Mixer: Bill Price Studio Personnel, Engineer: Jim Mitchell Associated Performer, Violin: Alyssa Park Associated Performer, Violin: Neli Nikolaeva Associated Performer, Violin: Songa Lee Associated Performer, Violin: Yu-Tong Sharp Associated Performer, Violin: Cheryl Kim Associated Performer, Violin: Daphne Chen Associated Performer, Violin: Armen Anassian Associated Performer, Violin: Eun-Mee Ahn Associated Performer, Violin: Jackie Brand Associated Performer, Violin: Roger Wilkie Associated Performer, Violin: Maia Jasper Associated Performer, Violin: Susan Rishik Associated Performer, Violin: Sharon Jackson Associated Performer, Violin: Eugenia Choi Associated Performer, Violin: Tammy Hatwan Associated Performer, Violin: Charlie Bisharat Associated Performer, Violin: Radu Pieptea Associated Performer, Violin: Cheryl Norman-Brick Associated Performer, Violin: Akiko Tarumoto Associated Performer, Viola: Andrew Duckles Associated Performer, Viola: Luke Maurer Associated Performer, Viola: Stefan Smith Associated Performer, Viola: Corinne Sobolewski Associated Performer, Viola: Benn Ullery Associated Performer, Viola: Alma Fernandez Associated Performer, Viola: Aaron Otlman Associated Performer, Viola: Diana Wade Associated Performer, Cello, Orchestra Contractor: David Low Associated Performer, Cello: Cameron Stone Associated Performer, Cello: Tim Loo Associated Performer, Cello: Vanessa Freebairn-Smith Associated Performer, Cello: Charlie Tyler Associated Performer, Cello: Chris Ahn Associated Performer, Flute: Amy Tatum Associated Performer, Flute: Gina Luciani Associated Performer, Contrabass Recorder: Frank Harte Associated Performer, Contrabass Recorder: Eric Shetzen Unknown, Other: Mark Robertson Associated Performer, Background Vocalist: Stuart Bailey Associated Performer, Background Vocalist: Reta Shaw Studio Personnel, Recording Engineer: Jeff Vaughn Unknown, Other: Dan Diprima Unknown, Other: Alex Karukas Programmer: Michael Wilson Unknown, Other: Nick Fevola Unknown, Other: Andrew Kinney Composer Lyricist: W. Axl Rose Composer Lyricist: Jeffrey Isbell Composer Lyricist: Saul Hudson Composer Lyricist: Duff McKagan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJosh Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, DTJ80 said: Would that be the same for the hi-res version? Very good question. Hopefully not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Is that Frank on drums? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJosh Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 It is Matt. None of the original members parts were redone. They only replaced the synths with orchestra unless I am misinformed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 25 minutes ago, uruguns said: Why isn't Steven Wilson credited? The arranger/conductor of the orchestra (Christopher Lennertz) is not credited either. The credits are incomplete. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 I wonder what Izzy thinks about all of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJosh Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Who cares what he thinks? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Instead of a lyric video or a static promo video of the box set they've used the new mix set to the music video: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, UncleJosh said: Who cares what he thinks? Cares is a bit strong but I'm curious to know what he thinks about all of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, Shacklermyrye said: I wonder what Izzy thinks about all of this More $$$ coming in for something he did 30 years ago, that's what he's thinking 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uruguns Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, Blackstar said: The arranger/conductor of the orchestra (Christopher Lennertz) is not credited either. The credits are incomplete. Right. I just found the complete uptdated credits for the remix: Quote Drums: Matt Sorum Bass: Duff McKagan Lead and Rhythm Guitars: Slash Rhythm Guitar: Izzy Stradlin Vocals, Piano, Keyboard Orchestra: Axl Rose Synthesizer Programmers: Axl, Johann Langlie Background Vocals, Choir: Axl, Matt, Shannon Hoon, Stuart Bailey, Izzy, Duff, Dizzy Reed, Reba Shaw Music Conducted and Arranged by Christopher Lennertz Orchestrated by Andrew Kinney Orchestra Recorded by Jeff Vaughn Copyist: Nick Fevola Score Librarian: Steve Juliani Programmer: Michael Wilson Scoring Assistant: Alex Karukas Music Editor: Dan DiPrima Concertmaster: Mark Robertson Violins: Alyssa Park, Neli Nikolaeva, Songa Lee, Yu-Tong Sharp, Cheryl Kim, Daphne Chen, Armen Anassian, Eun-Mee Ahn, Jackie Brand, Roger Wilkie, Maia Jasper, Susan Rishik, Sharon Jackson, Eugenia Choi, Tammy Hatwan, Charlie Bisharat, Radu Pieptea, Cheryl Norman-Brick, Akiko Tarumuto Violas: Andrew Duckles, Luke Maurer, Stefan Smith, Corinne Sobolewski, Benn Ullery, Alma Fernandez, Aaron Oltman, Diana Wade Celli: David Low, Cameron Stone, Tim Loo, Vanessa Freebairn-Smith, Charlie Tyler, Chris Ahn Contrabass: Tom Harte, Eric Shetzen Flutes: Amy Tatum, Gina Luciani Orchestra Contractor: David Low Orchestra recorded at Eastwood Studios, Warner Brothers Studios, Toluca Lake, CA – September 1, 2021 Mixed by Steven Wilson – September-November 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay410 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 This is just so much better. It’s a crime if we don’t get the rest of the album with this treatment. Steve crushed it. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-p-d-a Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, James Bond said: Instead of a lyric video or a static promo video of the box set they've used the new mix set to the music video: Wow, i feel like not wanting to be in a state of having to deal with unrequited love. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stress Fracture Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 First time in a while I’ve seen that video. Looking back, that was some seriously dangerous rain. Everyone was hiding and running for their lives. It killed the bride. Never get caught in November rain, people. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJosh Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, Shacklermyrye said: Cares is a bit strong but I'm curious to know what he thinks about all of this. Sorry my response came off harsher than I meant it. I just meant I don't think he even cared much back when the albums were made originally so not sure if he spends even a minute thinking about this stuff other than when his royalty checks come in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, Stress Fracture said: First time in a while I’ve seen that video. Looking back, that was some seriously dangerous rain. Everyone was hiding and running for their lives. It killed the bride. Never get caught in November rain, people. When I first saw the band it was November 2006, it was indeed raining, and since the concert didn't end until well after the last of the public transit had gone I saw many people scrambling in the cold November Rain for taxis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, t-p-d-a said: Wow, i feel like not wanting to be in a state of having to deal with unrequited love. Maybe a remastered version of making the videos should come out lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Shacklermyrye said: Maybe a remastered version of making the videos should come out lol That's long been a hope of mine. An AC/DC "Plug Me In" or "Family Jewels" type release that collects all the previous home video material in one package with bonuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjapie24 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 With the use of the orchestra and the remixing, it makes me wonder why they didn’t have orchestral arrangements for other songs on the albums. Some would likely not have it fit, but there are many that would probably benefit from the addition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Live And Let Die is another that immediately comes to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, James Bond said: That's long been a hope of mine. An AC/DC "Plug Me In" or "Family Jewels" type release that collects all the previous home video material in one package with bonuses. Like a Pantera Vulgar Videos type thing? i'd love that but that would be the Perfect Crime doc and I dont believe we will ever see that sadly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnR Chris Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) This is how the song was always meant to sound IMO: The real orchestra and remaster sounds so good. Including that low register higher in the mix on the outro. So much clearer. Listening to the original now, and the remaster just makes the original sound muddier by comparison. Axl’s vocals sound really good. Edited November 4, 2022 by GnR Chris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, GnR Chris said: This is how the song was always meant to sound IMO: The real orchestra and remaster sounds so good. Including that low register higher isn’t he mix on the outro. So much clearer. Listening to the original now, and the remaster just makes the original sound muddier by comparison. Axl’s vocals sound really good. Yeah I’ve listened to the new version a few more times and I like it better than the original now (including the outro). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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