Patatrak Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Do you find live tracks on Spotify? Those who are not from vegas or the Ritz?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillBailey Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Patatrak said: Do you find live tracks on Spotify? Those who are not from vegas or the Ritz?? Yes you have to check for the 2022 versions of Use I & II, took me a while too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnr forever Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 I need this blu ray more than anything I’ve ever needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakuL_ Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Holy shit, I'm shocked by the comparison of these real live tracks with Live Era. I feel so dumb now! I have always known they have done re-recordings, but I only thought it was small touches here and there just to "repair" some snippets. But I never have guessed they were full songs (at least vocally) and so many of them. LOL! That being said I have quite an unpopular opinion here though... even with this knowledge I still enjoy these previous versions from Live Era as well. Maybe even more now actually. It's part of the history and it sheds some new light on the "hidden years". And even though it's fake as fuck, it is such a rarity to have Axl's studio recording from '99. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakuL_ Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, UncleJosh said: I wish. Since they didn't include any from Live Era (aside from Coma on the Japan release which is clearly not mixed from a multitrack and is just a board recording) and none in this set, maybe they don't have any multitracks from 1993? Isn't Patience on LA from 1993? At least it says so on Spotify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJosh Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, sakuL_ said: Isn't Patience on LA from 1993? At least it says so on Spotify. Yeah supposedly Mexico 1993 so maybe they do have at least that show. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quikspade Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, UncleJosh said: I wish. Since they didn't include any from Live Era (aside from Coma on the Japan release which is clearly not mixed from a multitrack and is just a board recording) and none in this set, maybe they don't have any multitracks from 1993? I’d be willing to bet in the coming years we’ll see a small Spaghetti box with something from 93. I say that because up until now, not even UYI was available in hi-res on digital platforms. Spaghetti and Chinese still remain only CD quality across platforms. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSlashrose Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Now I can be sure that Live Era is the band's worst album. Axl took the trouble to kill his voice over the years and being in the studio from 1999-1999, just to re-record an album is a disgrace. I still hope they release Milton Keynes video shows from 1993 and the Show in Germany filmed for the Estranged video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvH Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 3 hours ago, UncleJosh said: Long post ahead, sorry! foobar2000 1.5.5 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1 log date: 2022-11-10 14:12:17 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Analyzed: Guns N' Roses / Use Your Illusion (Super Deluxe) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR7 -0.45 dB -8.13 dB 3:02 01-Right Next Door To Hell (2022 Remaster) DR7 -0.42 dB -9.26 dB 4:59 02-Dust N' Bones (2022 Remaster) DR7 -0.37 dB -9.97 dB 3:03 03-Live And Let Die (2022 Remaster) DR7 -0.33 dB -10.69 dB 4:44 04-Don't Cry (Original) (2022 Remaster) DR7 -0.39 dB -9.10 dB 2:23 05-Perfect Crime (2022 Remaster) DR11 -0.51 dB -13.91 dB 2:36 06-You Ain't The First (2022 Remaster) DR8 -0.48 dB -9.97 dB 5:28 07-Bad Obsession (2022 Remaster) DR8 -0.21 dB -9.20 dB 5:02 08-Back Off Bitch (2022 Remaster) DR7 -0.42 dB -10.28 dB 3:24 09-Double Talkin' Jive (2022 Remaster) DR5 -0.26 dB -7.55 dB 8:56 10-November Rain (2022 Version) DR7 -0.33 dB -9.22 dB 5:21 11-The Garden (2022 Remaster) DR7 -0.39 dB -8.20 dB 2:43 12-Garden Of Eden (2022 Remaster) DR7 -0.32 dB -8.44 dB 5:19 13-Don't Damn Me (2022 Remaster) DR7 -0.48 dB -8.61 dB 4:28 14-Bad Apples (2022 Remaster) DR7 0.00 dB -10.24 dB 4:17 15-Dead Horse (2022 Remaster) DR9 -0.36 dB -11.49 dB 10:13 16-Coma (2022 Remaster) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 16 Official DR value: DR7 Samplerate: 44100 Hz Channels: 2 Bits per sample: 16 Bitrate: 918 kbps Codec: FLAC ================================================================================ foobar2000 1.5.5 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1 log date: 2022-11-10 14:12:24 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Analyzed: Guns N' Roses / Use Your Illusion (Super Deluxe) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR8 -0.41 dB -10.91 dB 7:40 01-Civil War (2022 Remaster) DR8 -0.48 dB -10.20 dB 4:23 02-14 Years (2022 Remaster) DR8 -0.42 dB -10.96 dB 3:17 03-Yesterdays (2022 Remaster) DR8 -0.43 dB -10.52 dB 5:35 04-Knockin' On Heaven's Door (2022 Remaster) DR7 -0.49 dB -9.49 dB 5:40 05-Get In The Ring (2022 Remaster) DR8 -0.43 dB -9.60 dB 3:22 06-Shotgun Blues (2022 Remaster) DR8 -0.31 dB -10.48 dB 7:03 07-Breakdown (2022 Remaster) DR8 -0.34 dB -10.22 dB 4:47 08-Pretty Tied Up (The Perils Of Rock N' Roll Decadence) (2022 Remaster) DR8 -0.31 dB -9.33 dB 8:41 09-Locomotive (Complicity) (2022 Remaster) DR7 -0.42 dB -10.51 dB 4:07 10-So Fine (2022 Remaster) DR8 -0.38 dB -10.30 dB 9:22 11-Estranged (2022 Remaster) DR7 -0.40 dB -8.68 dB 5:43 12-You Could Be Mine (2022 Remaster) DR7 -0.27 dB -10.50 dB 4:48 13-Don't Cry (Alternate Lyrics / 2022 Remaster) DR8 -0.43 dB -10.21 dB 1:27 14-My World (2022 Remaster) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 14 Official DR value: DR8 Samplerate: 44100 Hz Channels: 2 Bits per sample: 16 Bitrate: 973 kbps Codec: FLAC ================================================================================ foobar2000 1.5.5 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1 log date: 2022-11-10 14:12:36 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Analyzed: Guns N' Roses / Use Your Illusion (Super Deluxe) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR6 0.00 dB -7.44 dB 6:40 01-Pretty Tied Up (Live in New York, Ritz Theatre - May 16, 1991) DR6 -0.03 dB -7.85 dB 5:46 02-Bad Obsession (Live In New York, Ritz Theatre - May 16, 1991) DR5 0.00 dB -6.63 dB 3:32 03-Right Next Door To Hell (Live in New York, Ritz Theatre - May 16, 1991) DR7 0.00 dB -8.39 dB 4:59 04-Mr. Brownstone (Live in New York, Ritz Theatre - May 16, 1991) DR7 0.00 dB -8.61 dB 5:49 05-Dust N' Bones (Live In New York, Ritz Theatre - May 16, 1991) DR7 0.00 dB -10.07 dB 5:19 06-Live And Let Die (Live In New York, Ritz Theatre - May 16, 1991) DR6 0.00 dB -7.76 dB 7:42 07-Paradise City (Live In New York, Ritz Theatre - May 16, 1991) DR6 -0.06 dB -8.75 dB 8:50 08-Voodoo Child (Slight Return) / Civil War (Live In New York, Ritz Theatre - May 16, 1991) DR7 0.00 dB -8.97 dB 4:52 09-Drum Solo (Live In New York, Ritz Theatre - May 16, 1991) DR10 -0.37 dB -13.49 dB 3:38 10-Slash Solo (Live In New York, Ritz Theatre - May 16, 1991) DR7 0.00 dB -7.71 dB 6:03 11-You Could Be Mine (Live In New York, Ritz Theatre - May 16, 1991) DR8 0.00 dB -11.22 dB 9:10 12-I Was Only Joking / Patience (Live In New York, Ritz Theatre - May 16, 1991) DR7 0.00 dB -10.46 dB 10:51 13-Only Women Bleed / Knockin' On Heaven's Door (Live In New York, Ritz Theatre - May 16, 1991) DR7 0.00 dB -9.62 dB 4:52 14-Don't Cry (Original) (Live In New York, Ritz Theatre - May 16, 1991) DR9 -0.02 dB -11.73 dB 3:42 15-You Ain't The First (Live In New York, Ritz Theatre - May 16, 1991) DR7 -0.07 dB -10.04 dB 6:06 16-My Michelle (Live In New York, Ritz Theatre - May 16, 1991) DR8 -0.07 dB -9.98 dB 10:01 17-Estranged (Live In New York, Ritz Theatre - May 16, 1991) DR7 0.00 dB -8.32 dB 4:14 18-Double Talkin' Jive (Live In New York, Ritz Theatre - May 16, 1991) DR7 0.00 dB -9.22 dB 7:49 19-Sweet Child O' Mine (Live In New York, Ritz Theatre - May 16, 1991) DR7 0.00 dB -8.05 dB 5:34 20-Welcome To The Jungle (Live In New York, Ritz Theatre - May 16, 1991) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 20 Official DR value: DR7 Samplerate: 44100 Hz Channels: 2 Bits per sample: 16 Bitrate: 975 kbps Codec: FLAC ================================================================================ foobar2000 1.5.5 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1 log date: 2022-11-10 14:12:52 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Analyzed: Guns N' Roses / Use Your Illusion (Super Deluxe) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR7 -0.34 dB -8.45 dB 5:26 01-Nightrain (Live In Las Vegas, Thomas & Mack Center - January 25, 1992) DR7 -0.34 dB -8.87 dB 5:41 02-Mr. Brownstone (Live In Las Vegas, Thomas & Mack Center - January 25, 1992) DR7 -0.34 dB -9.40 dB 3:50 03-Live And Let Die (Live In Las Vegas, Thomas & Mack Center - January 25, 1992) DR8 -0.33 dB -9.36 dB 2:01 04-Attitude (Live In Las Vegas, Thomas & Mack Center - January 25, 1992) DR7 -0.34 dB -8.59 dB 3:34 05-It's So Easy (Live In Las Vegas, Thomas & Mack Center - January 25, 1992) DR7 -0.34 dB -8.38 dB 7:16 06-Bad Obsession (Live In Las Vegas, Thomas & Mack Center - January 25, 1992) DR7 -0.34 dB -8.61 dB 5:24 07-Welcome To The Jungle (Live In Las Vegas, Thomas & Mack Center - January 25, 1992) DR7 -0.34 dB -9.62 dB 8:40 08-Double Talkin' Jive (Live In Las Vegas, Thomas & Mack Center - January 25, 1992) DR7 -0.33 dB -8.81 dB 8:21 09-Voodoo Child (Slight Return) / Civil War / Voodoo Child (Slight Return) (Live In Las Vegas, Thomas & Mack Center - January 25, 1992) DR7 -0.34 dB -9.62 dB 5:06 10-Don't Cry (Live In Las Vegas, Thomas & Mack Center - January 25, 1992) DR12 -0.35 dB -14.35 dB 3:22 11-Wild Horses (Live In Las Vegas, Thomas & Mack Center - January 25, 1992) DR7 -0.33 dB -9.83 dB 6:39 12-Patience (Live In Las Vegas, Thomas & Mack Center - January 25, 1992) DR7 -0.33 dB -8.49 dB 6:38 13-You Could Be Mine (Live In Las Vegas, Thomas & Mack Center - January 25, 1992) DR7 -0.34 dB -9.95 dB 4:24 14-So Fine (Live In Las Vegas, Thomas & Mack Center - January 25, 1992) DR7 -0.34 dB -9.83 dB 12:31 15-November Rain (Live In Las Vegas, Thomas & Mack Center - January 25, 1992) DR9 -0.34 dB -12.03 dB 6:34 16-Band Intros / Drum Solo (Live In Las Vegas, Thomas & Mack Center - January 25, 1992) DR10 -0.37 dB -11.61 dB 2:39 17-Slash Solo (Live In Las Vegas, Thomas & Mack Center - January 25, 1992) DR8 -0.34 dB -10.11 dB 2:08 18-Speak Softly, Love (Love Theme From The Godfather) (Live In Las Vegas, Thomas & Mack Center - January 25, 1992) DR8 -0.34 dB -9.51 dB 8:55 19-Rocket Queen (Live In Las Vegas, Thomas & Mack Center - January 25, 1992) DR10 -0.35 dB -14.31 dB 1:48 20-Sail Away Sweet Sister (Live In Las Vegas, Thomas & Mack Center - January 25, 1992) DR8 -0.34 dB -9.19 dB 7:22 21-Sweet Child O' Mine (Live In Las Vegas, Thomas & Mack Center - January 25, 1992) DR7 -0.33 dB -8.53 dB 7:28 22-Move To The City (Live In Las Vegas, Thomas & Mack Center - January 25, 1992) DR7 -0.34 dB -10.16 dB 11:38 23-Hotel California / Only Women Bleed / Knockin' On Heaven's Door (Live In Las Vegas, Thomas & Mack Center - January 25, 1992) DR7 -0.33 dB -9.18 dB 3:14 24-Yesterdays (Live In Las Vegas, Thomas & Mack Center - January 25, 1992) DR7 -0.34 dB -9.23 dB 5:15 25-My Michelle (Live In Las Vegas, Thomas & Mack Center - January 25, 1992) DR8 -0.35 dB -9.59 dB 9:32 26-Estranged (Live In Las Vegas, Thomas & Mack Center - January 25, 1992) DR7 -0.34 dB -9.21 dB 7:41 27-Mother / Paradise City (Live In Las Vegas, Thomas & Mack Center - January 25, 1992) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 27 Official DR value: DR8 Samplerate: 44100 Hz Channels: 2 Bits per sample: 16 Bitrate: 942 kbps Codec: FLAC ================================================================================ I am hoping the audio from the BluRay will be mastered better as they usually are. Then we can rip that audio instead. Wow that's bad. Hold tight to the MFSL discs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-p-d-a Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 the interessting thing about Slash. If Slash makes a mistake, he played that mistake again to make it sound intentional. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_seiya_aka_buckethead Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, t-p-d-a said: the interessting thing about Slash. If Slash makes a mistake, he played that mistake again to make it sound intentional. all guitarists do 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHelgo Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) Amazon now has this for $202 for the cd version Edited November 11, 2022 by TheHelgo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Listening on Spotify. Nightain from the Vegas show is fucking awesome. 14 Years from the London show is a bit of a mess but still great to have, warts and all. Wish they'd included the Paris '92 performance of Civil War, neither of the live performances here are really doing it for me, but it's cool to have the '91 one where there's no playback and Axl recites "What we've got here is... failure to communicate" himself. The Vegas YCBM kicks ass. Slash's SCOM Vegas solo👌🏼 Will buy Nightrain & YCBM Vegas tracks from iTunes, still waiting for a standalone 4K release of the Ritz show. So awesome to have high quality, real live tracks after all these years. A man can dream about ChiDem getting the same treatment in a decade or two with a mix of 2001/2, 2006/7 and 2009/ 2010 shows 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJosh Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 So we now have 3 new official versions of DTJ in this set. Which one is the best? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-p-d-a Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 1 minute ago, UncleJosh said: So we now have 3 new official versions of DTJ in this set. Which one is the best? In my opinion Las Vegas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourettes2400 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Damn, I miss Axl singing like this!! I should not be drinking and jamming out like this on a Thursday, but fuck it. Can't wait to buy this....for the right price. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Mama Kin is a lot of fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-p-d-a Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 i just finished Ritz '91 in audio. I listen with headphones and that girl in the crowd who screams "Rocket Queen" is annoying. She got no "Rocket Queen" poor girl Overall the Show is good. Voice has to much rasp but it is what is. Now, its Vegas Time baby! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, Tom-Ass said: someone please PM me and tell me how to watch/listen to any of this shit! Midnight release on Spotify/Apple Music/YouTube. One option is to VPN to somewhere where it's already midnight. Don't Cry with Shannon Hoon is great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 25 minutes ago, UncleJosh said: So we now have 3 new official versions of DTJ in this set. Which one is the best? I'd say the Ritz is best, then Wembley, then Vegas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyIce3924 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Anyone know if the Ritz Blu Ray will be available for purchase by itself anywhere? Perfectly fine streaming the albums but am pretty hyped to watch this show 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 10 minutes ago, MattyIce3924 said: Anyone know if the Ritz Blu Ray will be available for purchase by itself anywhere? Perfectly fine streaming the albums but am pretty hyped to watch this show Probably not for a while, as they are using it to sell more boxsets with it right now. It will come out later for sure though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattromero Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) Turn the VPN on a asian country like Singapore, it's already 11/11 in there Edited November 11, 2022 by mattromero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnr forever Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, Muddy said: I’m using Proton VPN connected through the Netherlands and I still can’t see the albums on Apple Music, does anyone have any advice ? Also, I currently can’t afford to purchase the set but I’d really like to watch the ritz dvd so … thanks in advance ! YouTube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendestroi95 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Just watched the full right next door to hell from ritz. Some people are saying that it was limulus who recorded, idk if that's true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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