kitstuai Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 27 minutes ago, Arnuld said: Ok got to hear it. Only difference is the bass. It’s definitely more thumpy for lack of a better word. Also it seems like the strings are a bit higher in the mix. I actually like the added bass. The biggest disappointment with this song is that it doesn’t have a ton of orchestra. In my mind it would because of how long and dramatic the string arrangements used to be before the shows would start back in the day This is the exact same version as the leak. Only radio compression makes certain elements sound louder 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 29 minutes ago, kitstuai said: This is the exact same version as the leak. Only radio compression makes certain elements sound louder Damn, so that means they probably didn't doctor Monsters up a bit more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaanzer Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Arnuld said: Can’t listen to the Japan Radio thing. It’s says you have to be in Japan. Did anyone rip it? Same. My VPN doesn't seem to do the trick. Any noticeable differences besides the strings being a bit more upfront? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavgnr Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Could be my imagination, the radio rip just seems ‘better’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I am just glad they kept Brain's drumming on The General, then. The fills in the second and third chorus are some of my favorite in the entire GNR- discography. I'd say that big roll going into the last chorus in Perhaps hits, too. Brain rocks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugworth Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Sweersa said: It's already happened. No it hasn't. Leaving Finck on a song for a nanosecond isn't what you were referring to. You meant "restore" the Chinese era version of the track. How do I know this? Because 99% of your posts are constantly asking for this. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Slugworth said: No it hasn't. Leaving Finck on a song for a nanosecond isn't what you were referring to. You meant "restore" the Chinese era version of the track. How do I know this? Because 99% of your posts are constantly asking for this. They restored a few seconds. 99.1% Edited November 27, 2023 by Sweersa 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLotus1111 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) I want to hear it... #totallynotaskingforalink Edited November 28, 2023 by DarkLotus1111 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litti Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 How can one hear it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfacelessturtle Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 14 hours ago, JimiRose said: People listen to music on streaming platforms like eating a packet of M&Ms. you open the packet, you eat it, you throw it away. Onto the next bag. You're aware that you can make playlists on streaming services, right? And even listen to albums. I have a playlist of all my favorite songs and listen to it on shuffle at work. Does that make me a lesser consumer? I don't even follow the analogy, what does "throwing a song away" entail? Never listening to it again? Why would the platform change whether somebody likes a song or not? Quote You release an album, you get CDs, Booklets, magazine and newspaper reviews, interviews (well maybe not) you get 1 or 2 singles released to build the anticipation. Then it arrives you get 14 songs. I like track 3 and 5 best, listen to them loads, you prefer track 7 and 8. after a couple weeks i think well faceless turtle loves them, let me hear them again properly, then boom they hit me, i feel that love, and the cycle continues, to the point where eventually the whole album means loads to me and now i can spend a whole hour listening to it al the way through singing every word and picking up instrumental bits i never heard before. How it flows between songs, trying to find hidden messages. You release a single, you get CD singles, booklets, magazine and newspaper reviews, interviews (if you want to). If you want to build anticipation, you can announce it beforehand with a snippet teaser. My whole point was that with singles, you don't forget about songs 7 and 8 for weeks (or forever, in many cases). They get your full attention when they come out. Quote One song every two years? lame as fuck. Look how hyped we were for 10 years for the general. there was a week of mass hysteria when it got leaked, then, dead. now no one gives a fuck. I repeat: "Obviously we'd all like them to do it faster, but that's another discussion." And the General was a bust for many reasons, including the song itself being very repetitive and even the band thought it was only b-side material. It's not a single at all, so it's not what I'm talking about. There was zero promotion for it. Like I said, Perhaps would have never gotten the attention it did in 2023 if it were released as just another track on CD. It would have never gotten a video, either. Quote if that was part of an album, we'd be still bringing it up constantly with every other songs. GnR have completely fucked CD2. It should have come 2010. then it should have come 2014. then it should have come 2021 in full with slash and duff. Instead we're about to hit 2024 with only 3 songs over 3 years officially released currently. Lame as fuck You seriously think The General would be getting mentioned by anyone, even on these forums, if it were released alongside a whole album of likely superior material to that b-side? It would not only be absolute crickets outside fan forums, even in here we'd be talking about Atlas and Monsters, not The General. Again, the timing is not what I'm commenting on, purely the form of releasing as singles vs. an album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamos66 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Nah the laziness is unreal, this can't be real I refuse to believe this management is actually in charge of this band. What in the pathetic fuck is that display image? XD They put together the bottom half and went "fuck it", theres the image... bruh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamos66 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 I can already see it now, "I CAN'T FIND THE FUCKING PUZZLE PIECE IN "YOUR", CANCEL THE ALBUM!!!" Vinyl delayed again because the "your" puzzle piece couldn't be found and Beta needed a vacation to recover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.. Posted November 28, 2023 Author Share Posted November 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Arnuld said: Ok got to hear it. Only difference is the bass. It’s definitely more thumpy for lack of a better word. Also it seems like the strings are a bit higher in the mix. I actually like the added bass. The biggest disappointment with this song is that it doesn’t have a ton of orchestra. In my mind it would because of how long and dramatic the string arrangements used to be before the shows would start back in the day The original version must be longer. I'm now sure this song was reworked & shortened just like Hard School & Silkworms were reworked & shortened. I really hope we get to hear it someday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoMw94 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Sweersa said: They restored a few seconds. 99.1% It wasn't "restored". Slash is layered over the top. They didn't re-add one note from Robin after Slash had completed his parts. We can add this to the ever-expanding book of "Ridiculous GN'R fan theories that make no sense" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NachoLZ Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Are the ones on "Queen Bootlegs" on Facebook the real deal? They are aprox. 4mb in size compared to the 11mb of Monsters that leaked a month ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Skamos66 said: Nah the laziness is unreal, this can't be real I refuse to believe this management is actually in charge of this band. What in the pathetic fuck is that display image? XD They put together the bottom half and went "fuck it", theres the image... bruh Funny they have Chinese Democracy and not AFD. I’d expect the opppsite! 44 minutes ago, DoMw94 said: It wasn't "restored". Slash is layered over the top. They didn't re-add one note from Robin after Slash had completed his parts. We can add this to the ever-expanding book of "Ridiculous GN'R fan theories that make no sense" Alright, so restored may not be the correct word. Perhaps “maintained” is better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 hour ago, D.. said: The original version must be longer. I'm now sure this song was reworked & shortened just like Hard School & Silkworms were reworked & shortened. I really hope we get to hear it someday. I believe we will eventually get the superior mixes as some bonus content, and/or through additional leaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilashlives Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 43 minutes ago, NachoLZ said: Are the ones on "Queen Bootlegs" on Facebook the real deal? They are aprox. 4mb in size compared to the 11mb of Monsters that leaked a month ago. For what it's worth, they look identical in Audacity. Top is from Queen Bootlegs, bottom is the original leak. https://ibb.co/NZnrFsV 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Thank you @Dexter for keeping the best bit of Robin’s solo in Perhaps. Hope we get more of Robin and Bucket in future releases. 😊 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridayfan13 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Excited to hear this new when the opportunity presents itself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindmelon Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 hour ago, evilashlives said: For what it's worth, they look identical in Audacity. Top is from Queen Bootlegs, bottom is the original leak. https://ibb.co/NZnrFsV There look to be a few changes on the outro nothing too drastic though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caedo Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 For anyone wanting to hear the version played on Japanese radio to my ears it sounds exactly the same. I’m pretty confident they just played the leak version - potentially by accident if someone had sent it to them and requested it. I can’t believe Axl would put out a song with vocals that distorted and we have no evidence anyone has actually received the vinyl or CD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamos66 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Petition for Axl to play As It Began as an Intro to Perhaps next tour. A Piano show segment would be cool, As It Began -> Perhaps -> November Rain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillConnor_1982 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 the leak is the final mix!!! I can't take these conspiracy theories anymore! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joraz Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Caedo said: For anyone wanting to hear the version played on Japanese radio to my ears it sounds exactly the same. I’m pretty confident they just played the leak version - potentially by accident if someone had sent it to them and requested it. I can’t believe Axl would put out a song with vocals that distorted and we have no evidence anyone has actually received the vinyl or CD. Completely unrelated, but just saw your location. Rare to find another Aussie on this forum, even rarer to find another Tassie on the forum! Sending my Greetings from Devonport 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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