comboguns Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 I think Frank decision's to use a jazz drum kit is a bad choice, it dont fit with the guns n roses sound. Frank is a good drummer, but he is playing with a jazz drum kit, this is like slash playing with a stratocaster, it will not fit with the gnr sound. http://www.frankferrerofficial.com/#!gear/cmtd DW DRUMS DW Jazz Series Drums Silver Sparkle Lacquer over a Black Base finish Satin Chrome Hardware www.dwdrums.com so let's compare the dw's Frank drum kit with the Yamaha Matt Sorum drum kit Below the same Drum kit Matt sorum used on UYI tour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 No- the problem is he has no business playing with Guns. Way outta his league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Silent Jay Posted July 4, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2016 23 minutes ago, Original said: No- the problem is he has no business playing with Guns. Way outta his league. Ridiculous, you just don't know what you're talking about 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kenan Posted July 4, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2016 Frank is a great drummer. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwalker19 Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 I agree. The tone has annoyed me from the very start. If he could change the kit and slow it down a tad, everything would be perfectly fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Does "Jazz" just not refer to the set-up/sizing and not necessarily imply the genre of jazz? I'd say your problem with Frank is more to do with how he tunes them. I really like his drum tonality. His toms are deep and his snare has a nice crack. Sorum's UYI tone had too much reverb and compression. His toms live always sounded incredibly dead. Snare was nice though! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comboguns Posted July 4, 2016 Author Share Posted July 4, 2016 1 minute ago, Jwalker19 said: I agree. The tone has annoyed me from the very start. If he could change the kit and slow it down a tad, everything would be perfectly fine. the same goes to Richard, he is a good guitar player, But I don t like his guitar tone, Richard is more talented/virtuoso than Gilby in my opinion, but Gilby has a better guitar tone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucasnesposito Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Finally I understand why not heard powerful the drums. It is a question that always had. I do not understand nothing about drums, I Like the kit, for example, of Brent Fitz. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) 17 hours ago, comboguns said: the same goes to Richard, he is a good guitar player, But I don t like his guitar tone, Richard is more talented/virtuoso than Gilby in my opinion, but Gilby has a better guitar tone. Gilby had a really dry tone. Richard has a different tone to both Izzy and Gilby, it is however quite complimentary to Slash's. I love his lead guitar tone, and the fact that I barely notice his rhythm sound means it's probably pretty good. Edited July 5, 2016 by Tom2112 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoop Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Dave Grohl uses those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Frank seems to be doing a better job from what I can hear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ludurigan Posted July 5, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2016 Frank has a lot of problems The first major problem is that he is not Steven Adler The second major problem is that he thinks he can improve some of the best rock songs ever written and he keeps ADDING FILLS where there is no need for them These two major problems make him really annoying. REALLY FUCKING ANNOYING. It has nothing to do with his tone. His tone may not help but the problem is how he plays === Now, apparently Frank has has cut more than 50% of the RIDICULOUS FILLS that he was playing when Axl was in the throne. Maybe he reads this forum. Maybe the backlash was too strong. Maybe Slash and Duff gave him some help. Maybe he is afraid that Axl will jump on him during the show. Who knows? Lets just hope that he can restrain himself and he can play those songs the right way, not his way Hey, if Frank can do that then all it will take to get GNR is to get rid of that richard dude and get Izzy back! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Modano09 Posted July 5, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2016 17 minutes ago, ludurigan said: Frank has a lot of problems The first major problem is that he is not Steven Adler The second major problem is that he thinks he can improve some of the best rock songs ever written and he keeps ADDING FILLS where there is no need for them These two major problems make him really annoying. REALLY FUCKING ANNOYING. It has nothing to do with his tone. His tone may not help but the problem is how he plays === Now, apparently Frank has has cut more than 50% of the RIDICULOUS FILLS that he was playing when Axl was in the throne. Maybe he reads this forum. Maybe the backlash was too strong. Maybe Slash and Duff gave him some help. Maybe he is afraid that Axl will jump on him during the show. Who knows? Lets just hope that he can restrain himself and he can play those songs the right way, not his way Hey, if Frank can do that then all it will take to get GNR is to get rid of that richard dude and get Izzy back! I doubt many people would consider not being Steven Adler a problem. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaxl stradler Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 10 hours ago, comboguns said: I think Frank decision's to use a jazz drum kit is a bad choice, it dont fit with the guns n roses sound. Frank is a good drummer, but he is playing with a jazz drum kit, this is like slash playing with a stratocaster, it will not fit with the gnr sound. http://www.frankferrerofficial.com/#!gear/cmtd DW DRUMS DW Jazz Series Drums Silver Sparkle Lacquer over a Black Base finish Satin Chrome Hardware www.dwdrums.com so let's compare the dw's Frank drum kit with the Yamaha Matt Sorum drum kit Below the same Drum kit Matt sorum used on UYI tour Wrong. Sorry dude, ferrer plays a dw... its hardly a jazz kit, this dw bass drum is small.. his is a 22x18 minimum.. standard rock bass drum.. Ferrers problem is hit interpretation of the songs.. yeah he can play, but he has a habit of hitting too hard when not required and overplaying the beat at times when it should be kept simple.. too many accent and ghost notes.. technically its great.. but its not needed on gnr songs.. perhaps on a new album with new songs sure...but on the existing songs his accents, ghost notesand hard hitting stand out like dogs balls.. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nn18 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 8 hours ago, Tom-Ass said: Frank seems to be doing a better job from what I can hear I like how you removed that ''searching for adequate drummer'' from your signature (I hope I haven't mistaken you, I think that was you) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadcaplaughs Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 To me, Matt exemplified a decent drummer brought down by a horrible tone. I never had any issues with Frank, and still don't. I preferred Brain, but Frank does the job in my opinion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Malcolm Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Brain is the best drummer GNR ever had. Brent Fitz is ok. Frank is doing alright, but I'd have liked to have seen Matt get the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 4 hours ago, slaxl stradler said: Ferrers problem is hit interpretation of the songs.. yeah he can play, but he has a habit of hitting too hard when not required and overplaying the beat at times when it should be kept simple.. too many accent and ghost notes.. technically its great.. but its not needed on gnr songs.. perhaps on a new album with new songs sure...but on the existing songs his accents, ghost notesand hard hitting stand out like dogs balls.. EXACTLY! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki_Sixx Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Tone aside, for someone who keeps claiming he's been 'in the band' for 10 years, he should know how to play the songs correctly by now ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bumble's Bridge Pickup Posted July 5, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2016 16 hours ago, comboguns said: the same goes to Richard, he is a good guitar player, But I don t like his guitar tone, Richard is more talented/virtuoso than Gilby in my opinion, but Gilby has a better guitar tone. Guitar pro tip: the secret key to that famous Gilby Clarke tone is to turn your Master Volume to the 0 position. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxpax Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 18 hours ago, Kenan said: Frank is a great drummer. yup. just not for a super band like gnr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobGuccioneJr Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) Frank is much closer to Adler than Sorum was. I don't mind him mixing up fills, especially since Matt just played literally the same fill on every song he recorded with Guns. Matt's tone was too over the top as well, way too much reverb. He couldn't capture the loose feel that Steven brought. I'd prefer seeing Steven but understand why he's not involved considering what a train wreck he is. Frank does the job. Edited July 5, 2016 by BobGuccioneJr Spelling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) On 7/5/2016 at 11:57 AM, Bumble's Bridge Pickup said: Guitar pro tip: the secret key to that famous Gilby Clarke tone is to turn your Master Volume to the 0 position. Not sure where people are getting that because you can hear Gilby fine as can be seen is hundreds of videos and bootlegs out there. The only instance I can think of is Rocket Queen on Live Era where there really is no rhythm track. Edited July 6, 2016 by Tom-Ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenan Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) 16 hours ago, maxpax said: yup. just not for a super band like gnr. I agree. He could do so much more but I guess being in GNR couldn't harm his career, right? Edited July 6, 2016 by Kenan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estranged_85 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 My sister (who's a GN'R fan since the 90's) First thing she noticed/complained about when seeing videos of this lineup were the drummer. "what is he doing with the tempo and timing?!" and many other who's not a die hard fan like me noticed that pretty quick too... I don't know but i really don't like Ferrer being in GN'R. I think he would fit alot better in another band... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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