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Where would the band be if the UYI lineup had never broken up?

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Slash never would are in a such uncomfortable spot like Axl's ass :D.

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11 hours ago, default_ said:

wow, is this really from MTV? Always tought it was just some random camera. 

i read it's been shot by mtv

some "new bands" thing

can someone confirm it?

but obviously it had nothing to do with unplugged mtv

(that was a joke)

 

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The sad thing is i think it was inevitable.  Maybe they could have worked on a few more albums and put them out but with the differences in opinion in the direction the band should go I think ultimately the albums would have been kind of a mass and the band would have broken up anyway.  If they did end up putting out a few more albums and just broke up one day I think Axl would have continued as a solo artist instead of with the GnR name and I'm not sure if Slash would have the legendary status he has today either... Not that he doesn't deserve it but he kind of faded away when Snakepit 2 was out... VR brought him to a younger and different audience and really cemented that legendary status he now has.

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We're like children of divorced couples, whining, "Oh, would all have been better if mom and dad didn't break up? I wish they hadn't." No, you stupid fuck. If they hadn't gone their separate ways they would have just continued fighting and fighting like they used to do all the time and you'd feel awful up in your room thinking it was all your fault, and your dad would have started fucking that slag from work in frustration and your mom would just be crying all the time and it would all just be horrible, horrible, horrible. That's what would have happened. Now, dad got to go out and party a bit more and grow up and mom got to test out arts class and "realize herself", and the passion might not be there anymore but at least they are back together and there is no more fighting and you don't have to choose between them.

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The question sort of amounts to 'what would GnR be if they weren't who they are?', which is a bit of a mind-bender for a tuesday morning.  They'd be Aunt Gladys and The Drippling Colostomies, LA's newest hit sensation!

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11 hours ago, Len Cnut said:

They'd be Aunt Gladys and The Drippling Colostomies, LA's newest hit sensation!

That actually sounds more exciting than the "cashing our retirement check" crew we have now ;)

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7 hours ago, RONIN said:

That actually sounds more exciting than the "cashing our retirement check" crew we have now ;)

Yes we have gone from the most dangerous band to the most gangerous retirement band.

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They'd have become the next Rolling Stones. I've been saying that since the late 90's.

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1: 1996- hard rock album and touring stadiums.  Possibly #1 songs 

2: 2000 - industrial album that would be awesome

3: 2001 more touring

4: 2002 back to the roots rock album. 

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4 hours ago, Nintari said:

They'd have become the next Rolling Stones. I've been saying that since the late 90's.

It fits so well.. but I think you were right. It’s unfolding before us

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1 hour ago, megaguns1982 said:

It fits so well.. but I think you were right. It’s unfolding before us

I am sure you are referring to the Brand and marketing aspect but other than that Guns aren't even a pimple on The Stones ass as far as productivity, influence and longevity go.  

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7 minutes ago, Tom-Ass said:

I am sure you are referring to the Brand and marketing aspect but other than that Guns aren't even a pimple on The Stones ass as far as productivity, influence and longevity go.  

Guns N' Roses>Rolling Stones

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19 minutes ago, Tom-Ass said:

I am sure you are referring to the Brand and marketing aspect but other than that Guns aren't even a pimple on The Stones ass as far as productivity, influence and longevity go.  

I respectfully disagree with a lot of your opinions but we're on the same page here. Say what you will about the Stones cashing in on nostalgia but at least they've steadily given their fans material throughout their career.

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I do think they would have needed to take a break for a while-having released the Illusion albums and TSI?, the public kind of needed a break from Guns n Roses. It would have been interesting to see if they would have done the Woodstock concerts (I think Slash said they turned down a Woodstock 94 offer), or the Lollapalooza tour-I'm guessing they would have eventually been asked. they probably would have been in the Bon Jovi/Motley/Metallica range of bands that would easily fill an arena-would have been interesting to see if they could have had another massive hit like Bon Jovi did with It's My Life in 2000-something that Chinese Democracy sorely lacked.

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4 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

Bollocks. 

Guns N' Roses have more great songs than the Stones despite having a much smaller catalogue.

Gimme Shelter

Sympathy for the Devil

Paint it Black

Wild Horses

Miss You

Angie 

Brown Sugar

Can't you Hear Me Knocking

Dead Flowers

(I Can't Get No)Satisfaction

Salt of the Earth

You Can't Always Get What You Want

That's only 12 'great' Rolling Stones songs I can think of, which is less than I can think of for GNR. Here's 12 great GNR songs(I could list more) for comparison:

Coma

Patience

Locomotive

Don't Cry(alt)

Civil War

Estranged

The Garden

Rocket Queen

Paradise City

Welcome To The Jungle

Pretty Tied Up

Sweet Child'O Mine

If you're able to list another 12 great Stones songs and I'll respond with 12 more great and better GNR songs.

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13 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said:

Guns N' Roses have more great songs than the Stones despite having a much smaller catalogue.

Gimme Shelter

Sympathy for the Devil

Paint it Black

Wild Horses

Miss You

Angie 

Brown Sugar

Can't you Hear Me Knocking

Dead Flowers

(I Can't Get No)Satisfaction

Salt of the Earth

You Can't Always Get What You Want

That's only 12 'great' Rolling Stones songs I can think of, which is less than I can think of for GNR. Here's 12 great GNR songs(I could list more) for comparison:

Coma

Patience

Locomotive

Don't Cry(alt)

Civil War

Estranged

The Garden

Rocket Queen

Paradise City

Welcome To The Jungle

Pretty Tied Up

Sweet Child'O Mine

If you're able to list another 12 great Stones songs and I'll respond with 12 more great and better GNR songs.

I can list probably about fifty-seventy ''great Stones songs''!! 

I mean you've left off the entire early era for a start apart from ''Paint it Black'' and ''Satisfaction'' so no ''Last Time'', no ''Out Out Time'', no ''19th Nervous Breakdown'', no ''Get off of my Cloud'', no ''Ruby Tuesday'' etc. Further, you have no ''Street Fighting Man''. You have no ''Jack Flash'' and no ''Honky Tonk Woman''. I don't see ''Tumbling Dice'' either - in fact I don't see anything from Exile, a thorough masterpiece. You have also included only one song from the Ron Wood era which certainly has more great songs than ''Miss You''. 

And that is without mentioning deep cuts!

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20 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

I can list probably about fifty-seventy ''great Stones songs''!! 

I mean you've left off the entire early era for a start apart from ''Paint it Black'' and ''Satisfaction'' so no ''Last Time'', no ''Out Out Time'', no ''19th Nervous Breakdown'', no ''Get off of my Cloud'', no ''Ruby Tuesday'' etc. Further, you have no ''Street Fighting Man''. You have no ''Jack Flash'' and no ''Honky Tonk Woman''. I don't see ''Tumbling Dice'' either - in fact I don't see anything from Exile, a thorough masterpiece. You have also included only one song from the Ron Wood era which certainly has more great songs than ''Miss You''. 

And that is without mentioning deep cuts!

I'll accept Ruby Tuesday and Jack Flash and Get off of my Cloud and Fool to Cry and Waiting on a Friend.

Nightrain

14 Years

Breakdown

It's So Easy

My Michelle

Used To Love Her

Out Ta Get Me

Prostitute

Think About You

You're Crazy

Madagascar

November Rain

You genuinely don't see GNR's songs are better quality?

 

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1 hour ago, Oldest Goat said:

I'll accept Ruby Tuesday and Jack Flash and Get off of my Cloud and Fool to Cry and Waiting on a Friend.

Nightrain

14 Years

Breakdown

It's So Easy

My Michelle

Used To Love Her

Out Ta Get Me

Prostitute

Think About You

You're Crazy

Madagascar

November Rain

You genuinely don't see GNR's songs are better quality?

 

For Guns to equal the Stones, Guns would've had to put out at least another eight Appetites. Really Guns had one great album if we are all going to be honest, Appetite. The Stones had at least eight masterpieces, and a whole host of near-masterpieces.

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55 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

What? This can only mean that musical preferences are subjective! Wow!

I understand that lol chill. Sassy much?

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6 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

For Guns to equal the Stones, Guns would've had to put out at least another eight Appetites. Really Guns had one great album if we are all going to be honest, Appetite. The Stones had at least eight masterpieces, and a whole host of near-masterpieces.

Would you agree on these as the Stones' masterpieces:

Out of Our Heads
Aftermath
Between the Buttons

Beggar's Banquet

Let it Bleed

Sticky Fingers
Exile

Some Girls

Tattoo You

Near-Great:

Satanic Majesties 
Goat's Head Soup
It's Only Rock N' Roll
Steel Wheels

Undercover

Emotional Rescue

I would argue that Lies is a near masterpiece, and UYI I isn't a classic album, but its collection of songs equal AFD (despite being very different albums).

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9 hours ago, Oldest Goat said:

Guns N' Roses have more great songs than the Stones despite having a much smaller catalogue.

Gimme Shelter

Sympathy for the Devil

Paint it Black

Wild Horses

Miss You

Angie 

Brown Sugar

Can't you Hear Me Knocking

Dead Flowers

(I Can't Get No)Satisfaction

Salt of the Earth

You Can't Always Get What You Want

That's only 12 'great' Rolling Stones songs I can think of, which is less than I can think of for GNR. Here's 12 great GNR songs(I could list more) for comparison:

 

You left out about 100 great Stones songs..

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If Guns had continued on with UYI touring lineup, they would have covered and maybe even recorded at minimum 10 more Stones songs by now.

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