TheSeeker Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) Trying to figure out the Silkworms lyrics since we now have this remixed studio version to fill in the missing pieces I think this is pretty close - guessing whoever remixed it changed "demons" to "semen" with ProTools to be cute, but Axl sang "demons" live for sure so I kept that: Silkworms Listen motherfuckers to the song that should be heard Thrown down in the gutter is more than you deserve Kneeling fucking virgin - you know that's what you are Pussy full of maggots - isn't that a shock? Chorus: What can I do with a bitch like you? You know that it's true All I have...I ask of you I'll be damned if it's not true Nobody's got to know Silly little dreamer with your head down to the stars Fucking little schemer got yourself a broken heart Syphilitic preachers - baby I know you are Parasitic demons sucking acid through your heart Chorus: But what can I do with a bitch like you? You know that it's true All I have...I ask of you I'll be damned if it's not true Everyone knows about you A bitch like you Edited June 7, 2018 by TheSeeker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, TheSeeker said: Trying to figure out the Silkworms lyrics since we now have this remixed studio version to fill in the missing pieces I think this is pretty close - guessing whoever remixed it changed "demons" to "semen" with ProTools to be cute, but Axl sang "demons" live for sure so I kept that: Silkworms Listen motherfuckers to the song that should be heard Thrown down in the gutter is more than you deserve Kneeling fucking virgin - you know that's what you are Pussy full of maggots - isn't that a shock? Chorus: What can I do with a bitch like you? You know that it's true All I have I ask of you I'll be damned if it's not true Nobody's got to know Silly little dreamer with your head down to the stars Fucking little schemer got yourself a broken heart Syphilitic preachers - baby I know you are Parasitic demons sucking acid through your heart Chorus: But what can I do with a bitch like you? You know that it's true All I have I ask of you I'll be damned if it's not true Everyone knows about you A bitch like you Isn't that absurd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Silkworms is still shit, lol. Haven't heard Oh My God yet though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gackt Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Searching google for the leaks only brings up this topic..savage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Just now, Gackt said: Searching google for the leaks only brings up this topic..savage because, as I stated above, these are in fact fanmade, no matter their original source with BBF guitar hasn't leaked - yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlrosefan4life Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Goin down without bumble does exist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR 1991 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Just now, zombux said: because, as I stated above, these are in fact fanmade, no matter their original source with BBF guitar hasn't leaked - yet. If these are fanmade, then where did the new Axl vocals come from ("isn't that absurd?" and the vocalizing before the slow part). I think these are remixes, but they are legitimate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gackt Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, zombux said: because, as I stated above, these are in fact fanmade, no matter their original source with BBF guitar hasn't leaked - yet. Do you have proof these are fanmade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeeker Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 All these tracks without Bumble makes me think these were from the CD's the band gave him to learn the tracks Maybe at some point when he was pissed off he leaked them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modano09 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 These seem difficult to find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, GNR 1991 said: If these are fanmade, then where did the new Axl vocals come from ("isn't that absurd?" and the vocalizing before the slow part). I think these are remixes, but they are legitimate. of course they are legitimate, BUT they are not studio versions. source of these "leaks" are the unleaked BBF guitar tracks. those had BBF guitar in left channel and the old demo in right channel. now someone (= a fan) just cut the left channel out and mixed the right channel to dual mono. search for imsorry at soundcloud, he already did the same with Going Down a few months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 The definition of "fanmade" is getting a little stretched here. THIS is what I'd call "fanmade" That's where someone took a soundboard of the 2002 live version of The Blues, mixed it with the studio version of Street of Dreams and tried to create a studio version. That's what I call "fanmade" These latest leaks are most definitely legitimate Guns N' Roses studio tracks. Whether or not someone manipulated parts of the sound doesn't really matter one way or the other. A "fan" did not "make" these. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Just now, GNR 1991 said: If these are fanmade, then where did the new Axl vocals come from ("isn't that absurd?" and the vocalizing before the slow part). I think these are remixes, but they are legitimate. Well they are edits. Constanzo is credited with digital editing on CD. Maybe they were 2006 Bumblefoot/Costanzo digital edits? But I remember Axl said Bucket added a solo to Oh My God, but that might have already leaked. Plus someone talked about a Silkworms remix I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Gackt said: Do you have proof these are fanmade? yes I do have. someone who has the complete tracks with BBF sent me a screenshot from Audacity (or similar audio program), with channel comparison. left+right channel from todays "leaks" are identical to right channel of the ones with BBF guitar. and no, I don't have the ones with BBF guitar so I can't share them. maybe they'll get out soon as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 Personally I don't care for Silkworms at all. Never liked the 2001 version and this leak changes nothing for me. I've always loved OMG though and I really like the breakdown (for lack of a better term) in this version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, RussTCB said: The definition of "fanmade" is getting a little stretched here. THIS is what I'd call "fanmade" That's where someone took a soundboard of the 2002 live version of The Blues, mixed it with the studio version of Street of Dreams and tried to create a studio version. That's what I call "fanmade" These latest leaks are most definitely legitimate Guns N' Roses studio tracks. Whether or not someone manipulated parts of the sound doesn't really matter one way or the other. A "fan" did not "make" these. I dare to disagree with you, my friend. if you take ChiDem multitracks and manipulate with them to create something, you get "fanmade" stuff, albeit sourced from studio tracks. and these "leaks" are the same story. yeah, they're not really "fan created", but definitely NOT originals from the studio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Bahh. Wake me up when ''Atlas Shrugged'' or ''The General'' is leaked. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 Just now, zombux said: I dare to disagree with you, my friend. if you take ChiDem multitracks and manipulate with them to create something, you get "fanmade" stuff, albeit sourced from studio tracks. and these "leaks" are the same story. yeah, they're not really "fan created", but definitely NOT originals from the studio. I get what you're saying. I'm nowhere near the audio authority many others are, so I'm certainly not in a position to say something definite. Not trying to start an argument with you or anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner927 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 First thoughts: Silkworms is pretty good, but I hate the chorus being gone. And what the fuck is that funky/dance bit added to OMG? It reminded me of how much I dislike Slash's current RQ solo/jam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, zombux said: yes I do have. someone who has the complete tracks with BBF sent me a screenshot from Audacity (or similar audio program), with channel comparison. left+right channel from todays "leaks" are identical to right channel of the ones with BBF guitar. and no, I don't have the ones with BBF guitar so I can't share them. maybe they'll get out soon as well. Axl said there was a new version of OMG with a Bucket solo. Given that Constanzo digitally edited CD, could this be the new version after Ron had added his parts to the new Bucket version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Bahh. Wake me up when ''Atlas Shrugged'' or ''The General'' is leaked. That's kind how I feel too tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, RussTCB said: I get what you're saying. I'm nowhere near the audio authority many others are, so I'm certainly not in a position to say something definite. Not trying to start an argument with you or anything sure, I'm not an internet fighter either just trying to say that these are not real demos from Axl's studio, but stuff edited/manipulated by some other person, using yet-unreleased demos. so I get people are excited about hearing Silkworms first and also another version of OMG, just they should know these are not "genuine" 2 minutes ago, wasted said: Axl said there was a new version of OMG with a Bucket solo. Given that Constanzo digitally edited CD, could this be the new version after Ron had added his parts to the new Bucket version. I still have to listen to them again (I'm at work at the moment), but this new OMG has Bucket solo, or not? these come from circa 2006, when they were given to Bumble, to glue his guitar track onto them. I'd say the original tracks come from 2000 or 2001, because they indeed include Bucket, but that's just my guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted June 7, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2018 Another thing I want to say is this: I'm obviously a HUGE Guns N' Roses fan. I've dedicated an embarrassing amount of time to GN'R in general before I even think about the insane amount of time I've invested in the online community. Having said that, I **HATE** that this is what we're reduced to as fans. If you would have told me in 2008 that in 2018 we'd be excited to get 2 reworked, low quality mixes of 2 songs we've already heard that are between 15 and 20 years old, I would have to you to get the fuck out. The complete disregard for the fan base gets lower and lower every single time I think about it. 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gackt Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Just had a chance to listen to both.. Silkworms is full of energy and I like the direction it's headed, the added verse and bridges give it a lot of extra intensity. However, it feels odd without the well-known chorus (What can I do with a bitch like you?) and the quieter moment in the third section feels completely out of place. As for Oh My God, felt like business as usual until the second chorus..then I started to miss the drums, but the funky guitar lead is easy to jam to the guitar solo is a major improvement also. The outro is definitely the best part of the song. Both songs at this stage still needed a LOT of work before I'd have considered them strong enough to stand with the material released on Chinese Democracy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gunner927 Posted June 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, RussTCB said: Another thing I want to say is this: I'm obviously a HUGE Guns N' Roses fan. I've dedicated an embarrassing amount of time to GN'R in general before I even think about the insane amount of time I've invested in the online community. Having said that, I **HATE** that this is what we're reduced to as fans. If you would have told me in 2008 that in 2018 we'd be excited to get 2 reworked, low quality mixes of 2 songs we've already heard that are between 15 and 20 years old, I would have to you to get the fuck out. The complete disregard for the fan base gets lower and lower every single time I think about it. But they just released a new hit single last month! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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