Gackt Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said: Axl still called it The Blues in a 2006 interview. Make of that what you will. Cool, thanks for sharing funny how the song was basically finished in 2001, but it didn't get its name until years later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseDemocracy2004 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 45 minutes ago, Towelie said: Found this recently in an older thread. This was apparently the tracklisting according to BestBuy before it was changed last minute: 1. Chinese Democracy 2. Scraped 3. Shacklers Revenge 4. Street of Dreams 5. If The World 6. Better 7. This I Love 8. There Was A Time 9. Riad N The Bedouins 10. Sorry 11. IRS 12. Catcher in The Rye 13. Madagascar 14. Prostitute I gave it a listen the other night and I think I prefer it in that order. Not totally sold on the placement of CITR so late in the album, but Scraped works really well as track 2, leading into Shacklers. I think what was released is one of my favourite running orders of all time. Three rockers, four not so rockers, two rockers, Sorry, IRS and the three epics at the end. I'll listen to your running order later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Towelie said: Found this recently in an older thread. This was apparently the tracklisting according to BestBuy before it was changed last minute: 1. Chinese Democracy 2. Scraped 3. Shacklers Eevebge 4. Street of Dreams 5. If The World 6. Better 7. This I Love 8. There Was A Time 9. Riad N The Bedouins 10. Sorry 11. IRS 12. Catcher in The Rye 13. Madagascar 14. Prostitute I gave it a listen the other night and I think I prefer it in that order. Not totally sold on the placement of CITR so late in the album, but Scraped works really well as track 2, leading into Shacklers. Man, I love geeking out with stuff like this. Remember that big-ass 8 page thread I started about CD not having aged well? I was talking out my ass. Hard School has reminded me how much I love Chinese Democracy. We have most of the 99 album now, right? If so, what was the original running order or that and what are we missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 minute ago, RussTCB said: We have most of the 99 album now, right? If so, what was the original running order or that and what are we missing? We have 9 tracks from the '99 album, and we can assume it also would've included Atlas, Madagascar and I'm Sorry. Possibly also Silkworms and/or Oh My God. So, if the '99 album was also meant to be 14 tracks, there's only 1 that we haven't heard in some form... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said: We have 9 tracks from the '99 album, and we can assume it also would've included Atlas, Madagascar and I'm Sorry. Possibly also Silkworms and/or Oh My God. So, if the '99 album was also meant to be 14 tracks, there's only 1 that we haven't heard in some form... OK, cool. So....and bare with me here: we never had a Sorry leak, right? So if we used that along with all of these recent leaks and the oldest Madagascar leak around, we'd be pretty close to the 99 album, right? We just need Atlas to round things out? Or am I missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 minute ago, RussTCB said: OK, cool. So....and bare with me here: we never had a Sorry leak, right? So if we used that along with all of these recent leaks and the oldest Madagascar leak around, we'd be pretty close to the 99 album, right? We just need Atlas to round things out? Or am I missing something? Yea, that's pretty much it. Scraped, Shackler's, Sorry and TIL demos never leaked (I don't count Chicken Dinner as a demo, since it's not really), but if you add the 2001 RTB mix of Madagascar, the album version of Sorry, and Atlas whenever it leaks, you'll pretty much have the '99 album. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Gordon Comstock said: Yea, that's pretty much it. Scraped, Shackler's, Sorry and TIL demos never leaked (I don't count Chicken Dinner as a demo, since it's not really), but if you add the 2001 RTB mix of Madagascar, the album version of Sorry, and Atlas whenever it leaks, you'll pretty much have the '99 album. Right on, thanks. That's what I was thinking but I lose track of all this shit so easily lol. Well damn... It's cool to know (hope, I guess) that sooner than later we could be listening to what should have been the 99 album. Based on the recent demos alone, I'm convinced the record would have had a much bigger impact if it had been released way earlier in that form. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 The one on reddit (which I assume is what you guys are referring to) is FAKE. It's evader's version. Again. Like it always is. 11 minutes ago, RussTCB said: Right on, thanks. That's what I was thinking but I lose track of all this shit so easily lol. Well damn... It's cool to know (hope, I guess) that sooner than later we could be listening to what should have been the 99 album. Based on the recent demos alone, I'm convinced the record would have had a much bigger impact if it had been released way earlier in that form. Agreed. After listening to the early versions, there's no logical reason the album couldn't have been released by christmas 2000, right before the comeback shows. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 Just now, Gordon Comstock said: The one on reddit (which I assume is what you guys are referring to) is FAKE. It's evader's version. Again. Like it always is. Thanks. Not sure why so many people fall for the same stuff, especially when it's never been evaders intention to fool anyone with his remix. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walapino Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Gordon Comstock said: The one on reddit (which I assume is what you guys are referring to) is FAKE. It's evader's version. Again. Like it always is. that version is 4:20 in duration right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Walapino said: that version is 4:20 in duration right? Yea, the fake one on youtube is 4:20 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walapino Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Gordon Comstock said: Yea, the fake one on youtube is 4:20 Thanks for the clarification, cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 24 minutes ago, RussTCB said: Right on, thanks. That's what I was thinking but I lose track of all this shit so easily lol. Well damn... It's cool to know (hope, I guess) that sooner than later we could be listening to what should have been the 99 album. Based on the recent demos alone, I'm convinced the record would have had a much bigger impact if it had been released way earlier in that form. Agreed! While the actual release has more than a few dated moments, there are a few sounds used on the demo that have not aged well so for that reason 2008s Chinese reigns supreme. I'd love to hear the 99 material with the mastering and mix quality (not necessarily the same... Definitely not as many layers😋) of CD though. Think it could have sounded a lot rawer than what we got. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyWoodRose84 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Anyone remember the 2002 tour promo video they did? Almost all of the song snippets they used for that promo sound exactly like these early versions. Very interesting to see how this album was originally “supposed” to sound. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavgnr Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, HollyWoodRose84 said: Anyone remember the 2002 tour promo video they did? Almost all of the song snippets they used for that promo sound exactly like these early versions. Very interesting to see how this album was originally “supposed” to sound. Good point. Any idea what’s happening next in this saga buddy? Atlas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, HollyWoodRose84 said: Anyone remember the 2002 tour promo video they did? Almost all of the song snippets they used for that promo sound exactly like these early versions. Very interesting to see how this album was originally “supposed” to sound. yes. that opening Chinese Democracy riff is very similar to the leaked one, I noticed that. the promo version is of course cleaner and adjusted, but the riff sounds the same to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pskihq92 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Is there video for the Boston promo? I have the audio for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 18 minutes ago, Pskihq92 said: Is there video for the Boston promo? I have the audio for it Yea, I think there was 2 versions of the Boston '02 ad, and both had videos... just a montage of short clips from the Asia/UK shows from what I remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted September 2, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Gordon Comstock said: Yea, I think there was 2 versions of the Boston '02 ad, and both had videos... just a montage of short clips from the Asia/UK shows from what I remember. The biggest thing I remember about those promo clips was the monster track announcer voice saying "IT'S BEEN TOO LONG SINCE YOU HAD YOUR ASS KICKED PROPERLY" and some shit like that 1 1 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Just now, RussTCB said: The biggest thing I remember about those promo clips was the monster track announcer voice saying "IT'S BEEN TOO LONG SINCE YOU HAD YOUR ASS KICKED PROPERLY" and some shit like that AFTER NINE LONG YEARS, THEY'RE BACK! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Phoenix Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Gordon Comstock said: Yea, the fake one on youtube is 4:20 Which song is being referred to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad_k Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Blue Phoenix said: Which song is being referred to? Evader mix of The General 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Phoenix Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, brad_k said: Evader mix of The General Ah, makes sense! One can dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Amir Posted September 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2019 Can we please have a giant blood red letter overlay on MyGNR that says: - The General is not Jackie Chan/Checkmate/Hard School - There is only a shitty cell phone recording of The General + the (impressive) evader Remix, there are no other leaks 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixAreForKids Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 If this last leak is the 99’ album, I’m glad it wasn’t released. TWAT is missing the best part, CD is missing the solo. Bucket missing leaves much to be desired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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