ssiscool Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Okay so during Rock in Rio i was thrillied to see Guns N' Roses playing the Use Your Illusion II epic 'Estranged'. Just seeing it being brought out of the bag was brilliant. Coulden't of asked for anything else. Just Magic.Now since that prefomance i have listened to Use Your Illusion II alot and everytime it gets to Estranged i always crank up the volume. But after hearing how it is played with Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff, Matt and Dizzy it doesn't seem so greeat at Rock In Rio, or any of the other shows. So i started listening to some live versions from 92. And the preformances of 2011 are missing something. I don't know what it is, but it's missing something.To me, Estranged is a song of the Illusions lineup. Not this line up. This lineup can do so much better than the original band on some tracks. (Nightrain springs to mind here, Listen to Rock AM Ring 2006) But Estranged should of stayed in the vaults. By bringing this song back, people are going to want more stuff brought back. They will basicly want all the stuff from the Illusions brought back.Don't get me wrong, I think it's great that Axl is listening to the fans. But i think there are better songs to have brought back instead of Estranged and to see it played now in the way it is, is gutting for me personally. Anyone else feel the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 (edited) Estranged is 100% Illusion line-up material. Only Slash can play this song as it should be played.Ron does an ok job of covering it. Why have Dj Ash cover one small part towards the end ? - best leave it all to Ron.. Edited October 9, 2011 by star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindray11 Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 (edited) I would rather see more chinese songs in the set now. they are doing estranged pretty amazing though. Edited October 9, 2011 by Mindray11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiXiS88 Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Okay so during Rock in Rio i was thrillied to see Guns N' Roses playing the Use Your Illusion II epic 'Estranged'. Just seeing it being brought out of the bag was brilliant. Coulden't of asked for anything else. Just Magic.Now since that prefomance i have listened to Use Your Illusion II alot and everytime it gets to Estranged i always crank up the volume. But after hearing how it is played with Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff, Matt and Dizzy it doesn't seem so greeat at Rock In Rio, or any of the other shows. So i started listening to some live versions from 92. And the preformances of 2011 are missing something. I don't know what it is, but it's missing something.To me, Estranged is a song of the Illusions lineup. Not this line up. This lineup can do so much better than the original band on some tracks. (Nightrain springs to mind here, Listen to Rock AM Ring 2006) But Estranged should of stayed in the vaults. By bringing this song back, people are going to want more stuff brought back. They will basicly want all the stuff from the Illusions brought back.Don't get me wrong, I think it's great that Axl is listening to the fans. But i think there are better songs to have brought back instead of Estranged and to see it played now in the way it is, is gutting for me personally. Anyone else feel the same?It'll probably feel this way anytime a song that symbolized an era is brought back by a group of strangers (well... ex-Axl who at least wrote the song)I felt this way when I heard Axl and co. started to perform Don't Cry beyond just the instrumentals (which formerly I thought was appropriate as a tribute). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Anyone else feel the same?Nope, not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droezle Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Is anyone else saddened to see Estranged in the setI'm more saddened that they don't play new songs in combination with some old Illusion songs like Yesterdays, Civil War, Pretty Tied Up, Dead Horse, Bad Apples, Bad Obsession,... I mean, they've been touring this setlist for 2 years now. Bring in something different goddamnit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gunns5 Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 No not 1 bit, so far it's been the highlight to the 2011 concerts.I would actually think this was a cupcake thread if it weren't for a mod being the op Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Get in the Ring would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NewGNRnOldGNR Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I don't know what it is, but it's missing something.They’re not going to have the same sincerity playing somebody else’s song. That’s what’s missing; but the performances of the song are nonetheless great.I would agree however that Estranged shouldn’t be a staple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThinkAboutYou Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 No I like estranged in the set but think its time to introduce new as in NEW TRACKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NewGNRnOldGNR Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 No I like estranged in the set but think its time to introduce new as in NEW TRACKSExactly – an old gem doesn’t compensate for the lack of new songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDRE Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 It was a welcomed surprised, but I didn't think i the actual performance was as great as some the love it got here. Axl's voice sounded flat and he was squeaky at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gunns5 Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 What is most frustrating is that they play new covers and rehearse them instead of playing new songs.I think everyone here would want two new songs and not just going down + riff raff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stro Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Axl hasn't been as good on it as in 1992 (yet), but the band is better. Ron's tone and feel is much closer to the album version than Slash ever got live. It never sounded quite right with the old band. I'm not sure if technology makes it easier or what, but Ron more than does it justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssiscool Posted October 9, 2011 Author Share Posted October 9, 2011 Axl hasn't been as good on it as in 1992 (yet), but the band is better. Ron's tone and feel is much closer to the album version than Slash ever got live. It never sounded quite right with the old band. I'm not sure if technology makes it easier or what, but Ron more than does it justice.See I aggree Ron can get the tone, but not the feel for the song. And Slash always seemed to have the right sound. The Only bit i don't like of Slash's playing is the bit just before the second solo where he makes the dolphoin sounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnRFL Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I'd be good with more illusions songs. Mix it up a bit on the set list. No prob at all playing Estranged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOUCOULDBEMINE. Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 2011 Estranged > 90's Estranged for me.All we need now is for Axl to get his voice back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlIsGod. Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Not at all. Estranged should Stay, so fans from the States and anywhere else get a chance to hear it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I'm still really excited they're playing it. It's my favorite song of all time, and I never imagined I'd get to hear it live. I do think the current band plays it on par with the old band, and Ron is really shining on it. That being said, I've been listening to the Illusions a lot again lately, and I still have the belief that no live version can match the studio version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlIsGod. Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I'm still really excited they're playing it. It's my favorite song of all time, and I never imagined I'd get to hear it live. I do think the current band plays it on par with the old band, and Ron is really shining on it. That being said, I've been listening to the Illusions a lot again lately, and I still have the belief that no live version can match the studio version.I dont think any live version can match the studio Nov Rain either but, i still love to hear alternate versions if im in the mood for smth abit different. Same with Estranged really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Archer Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Okay so during Rock in Rio i was thrillied to see Guns N' Roses playing the Use Your Illusion II epic 'Estranged'. Just seeing it being brought out of the bag was brilliant. Coulden't of asked for anything else. Just Magic.Now since that prefomance i have listened to Use Your Illusion II alot and everytime it gets to Estranged i always crank up the volume. But after hearing how it is played with Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff, Matt and Dizzy it doesn't seem so greeat at Rock In Rio, or any of the other shows. So i started listening to some live versions from 92. And the preformances of 2011 are missing something. I don't know what it is, but it's missing something.To me, Estranged is a song of the Illusions lineup. Not this line up. This lineup can do so much better than the original band on some tracks. (Nightrain springs to mind here, Listen to Rock AM Ring 2006) But Estranged should of stayed in the vaults. By bringing this song back, people are going to want more stuff brought back. They will basicly want all the stuff from the Illusions brought back.Don't get me wrong, I think it's great that Axl is listening to the fans. But i think there are better songs to have brought back instead of Estranged and to see it played now in the way it is, is gutting for me personally. Anyone else feel the same?Two words.CIVIL WAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CivilWar07 Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 You guys are never happy. GNR are nailing this song and the tour is getting better and better... Last few years all we heard was "wish they'd play estranged" etc. now this lad is saddened... Give up man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic56 Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Imagine how the band feels, it makes me laugh if they played new songs the prats here would be saying ' i want civil war , this band is shit' PATHETIC, Just enjoy the music ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Use Your Delusion 1 Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I love the new Estranged, but can see what the OP is saying, its been so long and so built up it will never be the same as before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I think they did a great job playing Estranged. From Ron to Tommy, to DJ to Frank... everybody must've rehearsed a lot before playing... 'cause even in Rock in Rio, they nailed it instrumentally. I don't think there's any problem about playing Estranged. I always pictured it as an Axl song 100%. If they can play SCOM and PC, they can play Estranged. I doesn't get more 'Slash' than SCOM and PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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