Powerage5 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Was there an opening band? If so, who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young_Gun Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Agreed, Axl sounds really good on Jungle.Axl sounded good on Jungle in 2002.That means jack.Axl sounded good on Jungle in 2002 until the first verse. The opening scream was all that was good about it. He sounds better on Jungle here than he has in all of 2011 and 2012. 2002 was fucken terrible as was 2001.I'm probably more of a cynic than alot of the people on this forum but I have to say Axl sounds fucken fantastic on Jungle here....Have to agree completely, he was probably better prepared than usual since the aftermath of the Bridge School performance? Either way he sounds great here.By the way how late were they?Maybe he really did have strep throat because the improvement is dramatic. Either way, he sounds great on Jungle, rasp and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Satanisk_Slakt Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Agreed, Axl sounds really good on Jungle.Axl sounded good on Jungle in 2002.That means jack.Axl sounded good on Jungle in 2002 until the first verse. The opening scream was all that was good about it. He sounds better on Jungle here than he has in all of 2011 and 2012. 2002 was fucken terrible as was 2001.Agreed.I hope he'll continue to sing like this. This is the voice we all love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young_Gun Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Agreed, Axl sounds really good on Jungle.Axl sounded good on Jungle in 2002.That means jack.Axl sounded good on Jungle in 2002 until the first verse. The opening scream was all that was good about it. He sounds better on Jungle here than he has in all of 2011 and 2012. 2002 was fucken terrible as was 2001.Agreed.I hope he'll continue to sing like this. This is the voice we all love. It's a good sign. Only time I thought he sounded good in 2011/12 was during Philly where he really gave it his all. I then thought it would improve or at least stay but he regressed back into Mickey Mouse mode lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Satanisk_Slakt Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 It's a good sign. Only time I thought he sounded good in 2011/12 was during Philly where he really gave it his all. I then thought it would improve or at least stay but he regressed back into Mickey Mouse mode lol.This is a frustrating thing with it all though, because it's obvious that he can sing like this, but most of the time he just isn't bothered. I understand that it's strenuous on the voice to sing the way he does, but maybe he should shorten the sets a bit and give good short concerts instead of long shitty ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guns n' Swedes Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 How can someone still doubt he had a strep throat?And, anyone who have ears or know even a little bit about singing cant say that he was good in 01 and 02.On a more constructive note: I like to see Sorry live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young_Gun Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 It's a good sign. Only time I thought he sounded good in 2011/12 was during Philly where he really gave it his all. I then thought it would improve or at least stay but he regressed back into Mickey Mouse mode lol.This is a frustrating thing with it all though, because it's obvious that he can sing like this, but most of the time he just isn't bothered. I understand that it's strenuous on the voice to sing the way he does, but maybe he should shorten the sets a bit and give good short concerts instead of long shitty ones?Fair point. Were they doing 3 hours shows in 2010? I remember the first few in Asia tipped the 3 hour mark but don't remember how long the subsequent shows lasted. I would prefer a shorter set with Axl singing like this over a 3 hour set with Mickey Mouse Axl any day of the week.How can someone still doubt he had a strep throat?And, anyone who have ears or know even a little bit about singing cant say that he was good in 01 and 02.On a more constructive note: I like to see Sorry liveAgreed. Either he had strep throat or he really upped his game to a superhuman realm in the matter of a week. Although I have only seen a few videos of the show and await to see if future shows improve, decline or stay similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudolf1978 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 For me these two sounds okay: I'm probably more of a cynic than alot of the people on this forum but I have to say Axl sounds fucken fantastic on Jungle here....In that videos Axl sounds great,but he usually nails jungle and its so easy,as mr brownstone, i would love to hear you could be mine,estranged or civil war,if mickey mouse its not there,we have good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 The vids don't lie!But how many times have people said you can't judge by youtube vids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highvoltage Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 The vids don't lie!But how many times have people said you can't judge by youtube vids?Sure. Can't wait to see it for myself on the 23rd and 24th, I'll be sure to let you know how it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young_Gun Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 For me these two sounds okay: I'm probably more of a cynic than alot of the people on this forum but I have to say Axl sounds fucken fantastic on Jungle here....In that videos Axl sounds great,but he usually nails jungle and its so easy,as mr brownstone, i would love to hear you could be mine,estranged or civil war,if mickey mouse its not there,we have good news.I agree he always nails ISE and Brownstone because he doesn't use much rasp on those songs and I think it's sang at a lower register but Jungle is usually a mixed bag. Sometimes there is rasp but he is out of breath(Welcome to the jun----gle etc). The video seems to show that he sang with rasp and wasn't out of breath. YCBM and SCOM usually suck most of the time so it will be interesting to see how he pulls them off. The only great YCBM I have seen in the last 10 years was when he played with Duff in 2010, he absolutely scorched it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Satanisk_Slakt Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Fair point. Were they doing 3 hours shows in 2010? I remember the first few in Asia tipped the 3 hour mark but don't remember how long the subsequent shows lasted. I would prefer a shorter set with Axl singing like this over a 3 hour set with Mickey Mouse Axl any day of the week.I actually think they were about as long as they are now. I think they were really long in Asia and Canada and then they were shorter in the early European tour, but they became longer after a while. I think they were about the same length. Don't take my words as facts though, I haven't really been that interested in bootlegs, etc. the last few years, so I haven't followed it that closely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 This is a frustrating thing with it all though, because it's obvious that he can sing like this, but most of the time he just isn't bothered.I find it far-fetched that the reason is he can't be bothered all the while he churns out one 3 hr set after the other. It is much more plausible that he saves his voice or that he just hasn't got the ability to sing with rasp consistently for 3 hr night after night.Fair point. Were they doing 3 hours shows in 2010? I remember the first few in Asia tipped the 3 hour mark but don't remember how long the subsequent shows lasted. I would prefer a shorter set with Axl singing like this over a 3 hour set with Mickey Mouse Axl any day of the week.I actually think they were about as long as they are now. I think they were really long in Asia and Canada and then they were shorter in the early European tour, but they became longer after a while. I think they were about the same length. Don't take my words as facts though, I haven't really been that interested in bootlegs, etc. the last few years, so I haven't followed it that closely.The average no. of songs per year was 19.3 in 2010, 23.5 in 2011 and 23.6 so far in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 From Loudwire's review:Guns N’ Roses have kicked off their nearly monthlong residency in Las Vegas. Beginning on Halloween night, the band ripped through a set where singer Axl Rose gave a far greater performance than he has at recent shows.After a highly criticized performance by Axl Rose at Neil Young’s annual Bridge School benefit show, which was widely distributed online at the expense of Rose, the singer proved that he can still deliver a quality vocal show at this first Vegas show. Additionally, the city of Las Vegas celebrated the Guns N’ Roses residency by temporarily renaming Paradise Road as Paradise City Road.The band ripped through a 29-song set that included covers of Pink Floyd’s ‘Another Brick in the Wall Pt 2′ and Neil Young’s ‘Don’t Let It Bring You Down.’ The show also allowed band members Tommy Stinson and Bumblefoot to take lead vocals on their own original songs.Source: http://loudwire.com/guns-n-roses-kick-off-las-vegas-residency-halloween-night/Videos don't lie.Are you seriously saying he sounds like shit in those videos you have seen? Or are you just bored and trolling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young_Gun Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I really have a disdain for the amount of covers in Guns N' Roses past setlists but I really look forward to Axl singing Don't let it bring you down with improved vocals. I don't care for LALD or any of the other bandmember's covers. KOHD is cool but overdone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandOla Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Are you seriously saying he sounds like shit in those videos you have seen? Or are you just bored and trolling?Live and Let Die - skip to 1:30 Embarrassing.That sounded actually pretty damn good. The whole song that is. I'm impressed after the Bridge school fiasco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeez Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) Only saving his voice so it will last a whole tour. We know what happened during the 90s when he blew out his voice. Maybe with age he has realized he can't go to hard on the rasp if he is to be able to last through a whole tour? I don't know, but I certainly find that theory more plausible than the "can't bother" hypothesis.I feel confident Axl is trying to and wants to do his best every time he walks up on a stage. He even did two gigs when he was feeling ill, right before 12 gigs in Vegas. Doesn't sound like a man who's saving his voice or who can't be bothered.Not to mention he keeps on booking new tours all the time, rather than making albums. Saving his voice? Nah. Edited November 1, 2012 by Jeez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 OMFG LOOK HOW FAT HE LOOKS (sarcarsm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) Only saving his voice so it will last a whole tour. We know what happened during the 90s when he blew out his voice. Maybe with age he has realized he can't go to hard on the rasp if he is to be able to last through a whole tour? I don't know, but I certainly find that theory more plausible than the "can't bother" hypothesis.I feel confident Axl is trying to and wants to do his best every time he walks up on a stage. He even did two gigs when he was feeling ill, right before 12 gigs in Vegas. Doesn't sound like a man who's saving his voice or who can't be bothered.Not to mention he keeps on booking new tours all the time, rather than making albums. Saving his voice? Nah.Oh, I am certain he wants to give his best, but perhaps not if it means blowing out his voice so he will be really bad for the rest of the tour... It is all about compromises. And again, this is just one theory I find more plausible than SS's "can't bother" theory. Another is that his voice just isn't good enough in this day and age to consistently churn out 3 hr shows with full-on rasp. Edited November 1, 2012 by SoulMonster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeez Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Am I the only one who actually like the hat style? (except the white cowboy hat) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie Mercury's Ghost Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Only saving his voice so it will last a whole tour. We know what happened during the 90s when he blew out his voice. Maybe with age he has realized he can't go to hard on the rasp if he is to be able to last through a whole tour? I don't know, but I certainly find that theory more plausible than the "can't bother" hypothesis.I feel confident Axl is trying to and wants to do his best every time he walks up on a stage. He even did two gigs when he was feeling ill, right before 12 gigs in Vegas. Doesn't sound like a man who's saving his voice or who can't be bothered.Not to mention he keeps on booking new tours all the time, rather than making albums. Saving his voice? Nah.Oh, I am certain he wants to give his best, but not if it means blowing out his voice so he will be really bad for the rest of the tour...So how was he able to sing from December 2009 to December 2010 with full rasp and no problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Only saving his voice so it will last a whole tour. We know what happened during the 90s when he blew out his voice. Maybe with age he has realized he can't go to hard on the rasp if he is to be able to last through a whole tour? I don't know, but I certainly find that theory more plausible than the "can't bother" hypothesis.I feel confident Axl is trying to and wants to do his best every time he walks up on a stage. He even did two gigs when he was feeling ill, right before 12 gigs in Vegas. Doesn't sound like a man who's saving his voice or who can't be bothered.Not to mention he keeps on booking new tours all the time, rather than making albums. Saving his voice? Nah.Oh, I am certain he wants to give his best, but not if it means blowing out his voice so he will be really bad for the rest of the tour...So how was he able to sing from December 2009 to December 2010 with full rasp and no problems?I hope to ask him that very question . But if there is something we know then that is that the state of his voice fluxes rapidly. Perhaps he blew it out at the end of 2010? Perhaps he did some bad voice training? Perhaps age caught up with him? Perhaps he needs to preserve it for recordings? I have no idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Eu4ic Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I think his performance of Rocket Queen on a given night is usually a great indicator of how well his overall shape/sound is. WTTJ is useless as a measuring tool unless we're measuring a crowd's energy on a given night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Reality Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 he sounds really good on 'welcome to the jungle.' less so on 'november rain.'still get the vibe that he'd benefit from rehearsing with his band. you can tell he kinda lets them do their thing, and he does his (he didn't even show up for the 'paradise city' event earlier that day! ). i mean, i get it, he's sort of the ringleader and does his own thing, but i think maybe practicing a bit with the band more wouldn't be a bad idea. you'll notice people always say how his voice gets better as tours progress...that's because he never rehearses beforehand! if he did, he'd probably show up opening night on his A-game.very excited to hear more of the upcoming shows, though. i feel like his voice will get better. that jungle is inspiring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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