RussTCB Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 But I don't though lol. See quote above.hahaha correction...no...you don't want it to happen but you know it probably will....Lol no, still incorrect. I don't care if it happens and I don't think it will. Obviously mine or anyone else's guesses don't matter anyway. Like I said prior; if it does happen, I'll be happy for those who really want it, but I just don't think it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustycage Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Lol no, still incorrect. I don't care if it happens.....Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Lol no, still incorrect. I don't care if it happens.....Huh?What? I used to be against a reunion for various reasons. Nowadays, I don't care either way because Axl doing anything at all is better than what we currently have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Ok, so the list of people who definitely don't know what's going on is as follows:Steven AdlerRichard ForusMatt SorumThe Entirety of the Free World.Did I miss anyone?When someone 'pleads the 5th', referring to the 5th amendment of the United States, especially when asked a light hearted question, it generally means they DO know something... but they're not at liberty to tell you or anyone what they know. At least not at the moment. He's in the loop. To what extent, that's anyone's guess. But he knows something is in the works. Especially laughing after saying he pleads the 5th. You could translate it to: "You can bet your bottom dollar I know something or am a part of that, but the chances of me saying anything to you about it is NIL". So I bet my bottom dollar on a reunion being in the works. Haha, I'm aware of what "pleading the 5th" means. The problem is what he said after that.Boy you really are hell bent on refusing to believe what's going on huh?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) And then the lingering question..Why did DJ decide to quit. Nothing is going on, right? Why quit?Oh, and why does it appear that Tommy is out?Not sure if you're asking me, but if you are my answer remains: I don't know. I would assume DJ & Ron left because the immediate GN'R futre (i.e. who knows how long) doesn't include any writing credits for them. As for Tommy, my guess is everything he needs to do is done outside of touring, so if/when there's a tour, he'd be available for it.In regards to BBF, he did state that he had recorded material for some of the rumored CD era tracks so it's possible there may be existing credits for those tracks if they were released. I can understand BBF leaving if there's no album planned and etc but DJ leaving out of the blue when supposedly "big things are about to happen for the band?" It doesn't make sense since nothing is going on right now with nugnr anyways.There's a whole lot fo smoke coming from many different angles so something/anything must be going on.Fortus just did the same as Ashba! "Big things are coming" and nothing is coming. Like Ashba, he too was positive,then he admitted he knew nothing, then he quit. Fortus is ironically on a similar path as Dj and Tommy is on a similar path as Bumble, ironically.. lets see:- Ashba Quit, but you could argue that he just was kind of forced to commit to one band or the other. Sixx AM releases music he writes and records as well as tours. It's his band. No competition. That could be either way...-Bumblefoot still is silent and it's confirmed he's out of the band. I understand not wanting to say anything negative about guns since bumble said stuff for years, but,it's fishy...- Everyone else in the band is clueless. And they know less now more than ever. No future, no sign of releasing music or even touring..-The former members won't say anything. They either brush it off and answer very politically.- Eddie Trunk is a legit source. It's not far fetched at all when he says things are being put "into motion". Places have been booked for next year. Realistically a reunion year of wouldn't happen in the calendar year of 2015, it would take longer.In conclusion, it seems a reunion is in the works. I think a lot has to be worked out legally and it just makes no sense to announce anything right now in the event that things fall right off the handle or shit hits the fan. A lot of people won't believe it until it happens and they're on stage. Where there's smoke, there's a fire. If a reunion doesn't happen it certainly wouldnt be due to a lack of effort on anyone's part.As far as Sorum goes, not sure. After hearing the context of his words, he clearly either doesn't know anything yet because they haven't gotten to him or he knows and just is playing stupid until they're ready to say something.The guys outside of nugnr never play the cryptic answers game and now all of a sudden we're acting like it's normal for them?Exactly. The irony... Edited October 9, 2015 by Billsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Do people have a hard time believing that some Gn'R fans don't care about a reunion?If by some miracle Axl gets in shape and starts acting like a professional, instead of ridiculing himself on the stage, I'd say go for it. Give the world the first real show of Guns N' Roses since Argentina, 1993. But, if Axl is going to reunite and perform like he has these last years. Fuck a reunion.What are the chances of Axl actually giving a shit? Probably less than 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Duff said I'd be lying if I said we didn't talk about a reunion. The fact that Duff talked to Axl about it and Axl didn't say no way is what got my attention. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Duff said I'd be lying if I said we didn't talk about a reunion. The fact that Duff talked to Axl about it and Axl didn't say no way is what got my attention.What makes you believe he didn't say no way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roky Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 If Axl had said "no way", Slash wouldn't have said "never say never"... And there wouldn't be all these rumors about a possible reunion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 If Axl had said "no way", Slash wouldn't have said "never say never"... And there wouldn't be all these rumors about a possible reunion.But there is a difference between rumors and facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Duff said I'd be lying if I said we didn't talk about a reunion. The fact that Duff talked to Axl about it and Axl didn't say no way is what got my attention.What makes you believe he didn't say no way?Because Duff also said it may happen, it may not happen. Axl could of said no way but Duff still thinks maybe. But Axl could be evasive but really is never gonna. I really think if Duff talked to Axl and Axl went no way, Duff would tell us straight. I think it's something they want so they keep hoping. If Axl had said "no way", Slash wouldn't have said "never say never"... And there wouldn't be all these rumors about a possible reunion.But there is a difference between rumors and facts.Not when it comes to GNR. True fiction or false fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustycage Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Do people have a hard time believing that some Gn'R fans don't care about a reunion?Yep. You're either a fan of the old or a fan of the new. If you're a fan of the new, it will be dissolved in a reunion. I can understand some in the general not caring but if you're a GNR fan, you're not exactly neutral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron MikeyJ Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) As for this whole "plead the 5th" controversy goes, people NEVER say "I plead the 5th, I don't know anything" unless they know something. Those of you taking the "I don't know anything" part of that statement as some sort of fact are being a little naive. Those two statements almost always seem to go together, and are basically an admission that "yes I know something, but I'm not telling you" type of statement.But having said that, I'm not saying that Sorum does indeed know something, it could honestly been a slip of a tounge and poorly chosen words. That is completely possible. But 99% of the time when someone says "I plead the 5th, I don't know anything." That does indeed mean they do know something. I just wanted to add my 2 cents to this, because people are hanging on to both sides of the coin like it's an admission or a denial of a reunion. Which I'm not saying it is either, but historically, saying what he said does mean he does know something. But again, it is possible that it was just poorly chosen words on his part. Nobody would ever confuse Sorum as being well spoken, lol. Edited October 9, 2015 by Iron MikeyJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russel Nash Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Do people have a hard time believing that some Gn'R fans don't care about a reunion?Yep. You're either a fan of the old or a fan of the new. If you're a fan of the new, it will be dissolved in a reunion. I can understand some in the general not caring but if you're a GNR fan, you're not exactly neutral.I am fan of the old and the new, but i don't care too much about a reunion(at least with Slash). But i'll agree with some ppl, anything would be better than Bumble n Ashba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustycage Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Do people have a hard time believing that some Gn'R fans don't care about a reunion?Yep. You're either a fan of the old or a fan of the new. If you're a fan of the new, it will be dissolved in a reunion. I can understand some in the general not caring but if you're a GNR fan, you're not exactly neutral.I am fan of the old and the new, but i don't care too much about a reunion(at least with Slash). But i'll agree with some ppl, anything would be better than Bumble n Ashba.I seriously doubt that if a reunion happens that you'll be meh about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russel Nash Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Do people have a hard time believing that some Gn'R fans don't care about a reunion?Yep. You're either a fan of the old or a fan of the new. If you're a fan of the new, it will be dissolved in a reunion. I can understand some in the general not caring but if you're a GNR fan, you're not exactly neutral.I am fan of the old and the new, but i don't care too much about a reunion(at least with Slash). But i'll agree with some ppl, anything would be better than Bumble n Ashba.I seriously doubt that if a reunion happens that you'll be meh about it.Bucket and Robin reunion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double talkin jive mfkr Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 But I don't though lol. See quote above.hahaha correction...no...you don't want it to happen but you know it probably will....Lol no, still incorrect. I don't care if it happens and I don't think it will. Obviously mine or anyone else's guesses don't matter anyway. Like I said prior; if it does happen, I'll be happy for those who really want it, but I just don't think it will.ok, why don't you think it'll happen top 3 reasons astonish me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 But I don't though lol. See quote above.hahaha correction...no...you don't want it to happen but you know it probably will....Lol no, still incorrect. I don't care if it happens and I don't think it will. Obviously mine or anyone else's guesses don't matter anyway. Like I said prior; if it does happen, I'll be happy for those who really want it, but I just don't think it will.ok, why don't you think it'll happen top 3 reasons astonish me1) Axl2) Axl3) Axl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double talkin jive mfkr Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 But I don't though lol. See quote above.hahaha correction...no...you don't want it to happen but you know it probably will....Lol no, still incorrect. I don't care if it happens and I don't think it will. Obviously mine or anyone else's guesses don't matter anyway. Like I said prior; if it does happen, I'll be happy for those who really want it, but I just don't think it will.ok, why don't you think it'll happen top 3 reasons astonish me1) Axl2) Axl3) Axlthats not really saying much and would've made sense 2 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillBailey Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I like how people interpret anyone saying anything as "it's happening", "reunion starts now!", "they know something but can't talk about it", "it's in the works", etc.The two main characters in this: Axl Rose and Slash (no offense to others who are great musicians as well) have yet to say anything. Last time we "heard" about Axl, he posted random stuff about how an Iranian journalist's wife couldn't play a soccer game, then filmed a Canadair in his backyard and finally posted a pic sending a shoutout to a Brazilian samba author/ player. Whatever that means about "reunion starts now!".Slash keeps on posting random pics on Twitter/ Instagram (with no apparent link to GN'R or a reunion), will start a new European tour in a few weeks and will work on a new album with Myles Kennedy in the next few months. If he reunites with anyone, it will be with Myles. As for Gilby, Matt or even Steven...when was the last time they shared a stage/ studio with Axl? If a reunion does happen (or actually if *anything* happens - the last show was well over a year ago), well good for us, but I don't see any "signs" pointing to it. Axl and Slash probably got a little bit "closer" as far as business relationship goes, with live releases and all but I highly doubt it means a full reunion is "in the works". I guess we're all waiting for one of them saying anything concrete about it (Slash didn't say anything since his "famous" interview...). Sorry about the rant but sometimes I just don't get how people think everything means a reunion is happening... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double talkin jive mfkr Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I like how people interpret anyone saying anything as "it's happening", "reunion starts now!", "they know something but can't talk about it", "it's in the works", etc.The two main characters in this: Axl Rose and Slash (no offense to others who are great musicians as well) have yet to say anything. Last time we "heard" about Axl, he posted random stuff about how an Iranian journalist's wife couldn't play a soccer game, then filmed a Canadair in his backyard and finally posted a pic sending a shoutout to a Brazilian samba author/ player. Whatever that means about "reunion starts now!".Slash keeps on posting random pics on Twitter/ Instagram (with no apparent link to GN'R or a reunion), will start a new European tour in a few weeks and will work on a new album with Myles Kennedy in the next few months. If he reunites with anyone, it will be with Myles. As for Gilby, Matt or even Steven...when was the last time they shared a stage/ studio with Axl? If a reunion does happen (or actually if *anything* happens - the last show was well over a year ago), well good for us, but I don't see any "signs" pointing to it. Axl and Slash probably got a little bit "closer" as far as business relationship goes, with live releases and all but I highly doubt it means a full reunion is "in the works". I guess we're all waiting for one of them saying anything concrete about it (Slash didn't say anything since his "famous" interview...). Sorry about the rant but sometimes I just don't get how people think everything means a reunion is happening... cause gnr is always about mystery and not knowing,,,, if we knew or anyone thought it was obvious it wouldn't be gnr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 to me it's all GNR. I guess I want what Axl has been working on but I guess for touring the most exciting option is a reunion show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadSlash Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) The more I think about it, I'm convinced he was just saying that to be coy and sound interesting. I literally did that same tactic today just to fuck with a co-worker and it made me think of this thread after. We probably have all done that hundreds of times in our lives, it's just that it wasn't about anything that was as interesting as a GnR reunion.I didn't say "plead the 5th" exactlyCo-worker: "Do you know why Jeff got let go?"Me: "You didn't hear?!"Co-Worker: "No! What happened?"Me: "Oh, I uh.. I really don't know."Co-worker: "Oh come on man, tell me."Me: "No, I really don't know, I swear."Meanwhile, I didn't even know Jeff got let go, so, no, I had 0.0% idea why, I just wanted this guy to think I knew to fuck with him and to make him think I knew all the inside shit at the company.Like 20 minutes later I was in my office and it hit me "Fucking Matt! He doesn't know shit!" Edited October 10, 2015 by DeadSlash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonGuns Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Do people have a hard time believing that some Gn'R fans don't care about a reunion? Yep. You're either a fan of the old or a fan of the new. If you're a fan of the new, it will be dissolved in a reunion. I can understand some in the general not caring but if you're a GNR fan, you're not exactly neutral. I am fan of the old and the new, but i don't care too much about a reunion(at least with Slash). But i'll agree with some ppl, anything would be better than Bumble n Ashba. I seriously doubt that if a reunion happens that you'll be meh about it. Bucket and Robin reunion?This would be my preference. Although it is highly unlikely. At the moment Bucket is literally releasing 1 album per day. He's released more albums in October than Guns have in their entire career, so he's unlikely to return to Guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Dude Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 to me it's all GNR. I guess I want what Axl has been working on but I guess for touring the most exciting option is a reunion show.What would your thoughts be if Axl just grabbed two more semi-known virtuosos and kept going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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