tsinindy Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Fitha_whiskey said: Well, one band who is definitely looking for a drummer is Ratt. The "Big 3"- Pearcy, DeMartini and Croucier, plus Carlos Cavazo, have just about finished the lawsuit against original drummer Bobby Blotzer. They are taking the name back and have already booked a few summer dates at US festivals. Obviously, it won't be Blotz on the skins. I can't picture Steven's sound with Ratt, but they all crawled off the Strip and somehow survived... (Except Robbin Crosby of course)... Could work... I read something else about Ratt after you mentioned this and I am almost certain that is who Steven is referring to. Good call! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caught_in_a_Coma Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 So Axl came up with the popcorn nickname. That's my GOAT rock frontman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Billsfan said: He's allowed. Just only guest spots. That's you speculating...not a fact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 in what alt-reality is Steven currently in, that he thinks the best way to work on getting further back into the band, is to do a reddit and say he didn't really enjoy playing with the current band? Surely if he wants to play with the AFD band then he has a direct line to communicate with 1. the band members 2. each band members management. This is classic Steven. He got a taste of his reunion and now he wants the full cake. There are a lot of people who would also agree that the AFD 5 should get back together. But i'm of the opinion that, that was a special time and place and there's no way they can recreate that magic. Each guy is in a different head space, they've all changed musically (barre Steven and Izzy), Slash is way more restrained as a guitar player, Axl is noway near as aggressive on stage... the energy that made the classic AFD group special has changed and can never be the same again. Maybe they would still have magical chemistry but i'd guess that it would look something like current day rolling stones or Aerosmith; basically a slick touring machine. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DieselDaisy Posted January 27, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) How can you produce the basic - and admittedly magical - ingredient of Axl and Slash reuniting yet pull such a shite tour from that jaws of victory? They were 80% there! They had succeeded during their biggest ordeal, getting Axl and Slash in one room together! Only Guns N' Roses could then produce such a mean-spirited dog's dinner of a regrouping after that triumph of diplomacy and common sense. Consider the fact that all five band members are still alive (and sober), a luxury not awarded to the majority of ageing bands upon regrouping (e.g. Zeppelin, Doors, Queen), yet they seem determined to never be on stage together in the only combination people desire; they instead have decided to indulge in the same Axly 'Area 51' shenanigans rather than put this band back upon a proper footing. Their obsession with money has escalated to hitherto unimaginable proportions - they are essentially just second to Kiss now in flogging overpriced tat. How much money do they need? Their setlists are stodgier than last night's leftover pizza, and beneath it all we are left with the fact that we, in purchasing a ticket, are culpable of the same selling down the river of Stradlin and Adler, (and suffer some stupid girl air-fucking behind an unplugged keyboard!). Nope Messrs. Rose Hudson McKagan, your two ostracised former band mates are just as important as you are and no amount of fabricated 'back problem' stories and perplexing Axlspeak will change that fact. I probably wouldn't have went anyway if I had to travel any great distance, although I may have been tempted if this money machine rolled into Manchester or Glasgow. Not now. Long live Adler and Izzy. Edited January 27, 2017 by DieselDaisy 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 9 minutes ago, Tom2112 said: But i'm of the opinion that, that was a special time and place and there's no way they can recreate that magic. Each guy is in a different head space, they've all changed musically (barre Steven and Izzy), Slash is way more restrained as a guitar player, Axl is noway near as aggressive on stage... the energy that made the classic AFD group special has changed and can never be the same again. Maybe they would still have magical chemistry but i'd guess that it would look something like current day rolling stones or Aerosmith; basically a slick touring machine. And it would still be twice as good as what we have now. Which is still good. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: How can you produce the basic - and admittedly magical - ingredient of Axl and Slash reuniting yet pull such a shite tour from that jaws of victory? They were 80% there! They had succeeded during their biggest ordeal, getting Axl and Slash in one room together! Only Guns N' Roses could then produce such a mean-spirited dog's dinner of a regrouping after that triumph of diplomacy and common sense. Consider the fact that all five band members are still alive (and sober), a luxury not awarded to the majority of ageing bands upon regrouping (e.g. Zeppelin, Doors, Queen), yet they seem determined to never be on stage together in the only combination people desire; they instead have decided to indulge in the same Axly 'Area 51' shenanigans rather than put this band back upon a proper footing. Their obsession with money has escalated to hitherto unimaginable proportions - they are essentially just second to Kiss now in flogging overpriced tat. How much money do they need? Their setlists are stodgier than last night's leftover pizza, and beneath it all we are left with the fact that we, in purchasing a ticket, are culpable of the same selling down the river of Stradlin and Adler, (and suffer some stupid girl air-fucking behind an unplugged keyboard!). Nope Messrs. Rose Hudson McKagan, your two ostracised former band mates are just as important as you are and no amount of fabricated 'back problem' stories and perplexing Axlspeak will change that fact. I probably wouldn't have went anyway if I had to travel any great distance, although I may have been tempted if this money machine rolled into Manchester or Glasgow. Not now. Long live Adler and Izzy. I ain't a cynic to your extent (I'll be there with my tits out at the MCG come Valentine's Day) but I'd agree with the basic premise here. 1. AFD lineup plus Dizzy (if it HAS to be done). 2. Mix up the setlists. 3. No one needs the employees around (maybe Richard if Izzy doesn't wanna tour but the rest are gay) 4. Bring the ticket prices down - it's the main complaint as to why people can't go. I paid something $1800 for 4 mates and myself on purchasing for the group. That's ridiculous. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Steven coming back or not, Frank still blows... From the beginning I didn't feel this Gn'R LITE line up would be strong enough for the long haul. They are going to ride this Stadium tour as long as they can and then probably ride of into the sunset. Slash and Duff are awesome.. Axl is mixed bag. From bad to mind blowing but not consistent. If he was absolutely killing it every night it would make up for the bloated stage of lack luster fill ins. Those 3 aren't don't supply enough magic to keep the ship a float at this age.. The summer shows were great but the "reunion" could have been and should have been so much better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, Tom-Ass said: And it would still be twice as good as what we have now. Which is still good. You're probably right that it would be better than what we currently have, but I still like the idea of the original guys appreciating what it was that they created together and leaving it alone rather than risking tarnishing things just for a few million dollars. I suppose it's almost certain that they will eventually share the stage again, and IF that turns into something more, hopefully the reason is that they all want to make music together, rather than they all want to make a quick buck off their past. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 6 hours ago, ZoSoRose said: Shitty day for GNR. Shitty 25 years for GNR Long and really shitty 25 years for GNR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterNorth Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 21 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: How can you produce the basic - and admittedly magical - ingredient of Axl and Slash reuniting yet pull such a shite tour from that jaws of victory? They were 80% there! They had succeeded during their biggest ordeal, getting Axl and Slash in one room together! Only Guns N' Roses could then produce such a mean-spirited dog's dinner of a regrouping after that triumph of diplomacy and common sense. Consider the fact that all five band members are still alive (and sober), a luxury not awarded to the majority of ageing bands upon regrouping (e.g. Zeppelin, Doors, Queen), yet they seem determined to never be on stage together in the only combination people desire; they instead have decided to indulge in the same Axly 'Area 51' shenanigans rather than put this band back upon a proper footing. Their obsession with money has escalated to hitherto unimaginable proportions - they are essentially just second to Kiss now in flogging overpriced tat. How much money do they need? Their setlists are stodgier than last night's leftover pizza, and beneath it all we are left with the fact that we, in purchasing a ticket, are culpable of the same selling down the river of Stradlin and Adler, (and suffer some stupid girl air-fucking behind an unplugged keyboard!). Nope Messrs. Rose Hudson McKagan, your two ostracised former band mates are just as important as you are and no amount of fabricated 'back problem' stories and perplexing Axlspeak will change that fact. I probably wouldn't have went anyway if I had to travel any great distance, although I may have been tempted if this money machine rolled into Manchester or Glasgow. Not now. Long live Adler and Izzy. None of it makes any sense from a fan perspective... ...until you take into consideration that the guy who stole the corporate identity had his birth father allegedly rape him and then leave his life around age 2. He subsequently decided to put his career in the hands of his ex-girlfriends' (who also walked out on him) nanny and the rest of her sycophant children. Outside of this family, his closest advisor is a long-time hanger-on (now tour manager) who reminds us daily that the President isn't HIS president, and no matter your political leanings, orchestrated an on stage event that was bound to piss off at least half of the bands' fan base. Which is all a long way of saying that Mr. Axl Rose might not be the greatest decision maker. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, Tom2112 said: You're probably right that it would be better than what we currently have, but I still like the idea of the original guys appreciating what it was that they created together and leaving it alone rather than risking tarnishing things just for a few million dollars. i hear ya.. That all kind of went out the window already though :/ Once we knew what the line up was going to be I was kind of let down by Slash and Duff. They always talked about how if they were going to reunite, it would have to be right, all 5 guys. Blahh blahh blahh. Things change but I do wonder sometimes if they should have just left it alone. Time will tell I guess. I am glad I got to see what I did but as fun as it was, I still can't help to feel that things could have been better. I don't really think anything is tarnished at this point though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJean Baby Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, PeterNorth said: None of it makes any sense from a fan perspective... ...until you take into consideration that the guy who stole the corporate identity had his birth father allegedly rape him and then leave his life around age 2. He subsequently decided to put his career in the hands of his ex-girlfriends' (who also walked out on him) nanny and the rest of her sycophant children. Outside of this family, his closest advisor is a long-time hanger-on (now tour manager) who reminds us daily that the President isn't HIS president, and no matter your political leanings, orchestrated an on stage event that was bound to piss off at least half of the bands' fan base. Which is all a long way of saying that Mr. Axl Rose might not be the greatest decision maker. Sorry but that's just wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Tom-Ass said: i hear ya.. That all kind of went out the window already though :/ Once we knew what the line up was going to be I was kind of let down by Slash and Duff. They always talked about how if they were going to reunite, it would have to be right, all 5 guys. Blahh blahh blahh. Things change but I do wonder sometimes if they should have just left it alone. Time will tell I guess. I am glad I got to see what I did but as fun as it was, I still can't help to feel that things could have been better. I don't really think anything is tarnished at this point though. Agreed. the tarnishing would be years and years of touring with no effort to create new music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, Tom2112 said: Agreed. the tarnishing would be years and years of touring with no effort to create new music. I am actually fine with older bands that just tour on their classics. I love Aerosmith but I wish they stopped making music 20 years ago.. The shit they have released since totally dilutes their legacy. As long as they have the chops live. Then their is Motley Crue who released new music but just got so fucking terrible live.. Totally tarnished.. Every situation is different but Guns aren't there yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanity_lost Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 The only new thing learned from this AMA was Steven's favorite color. And he has his eye on a drum opening somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ludurigan Posted January 27, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2017 6 hours ago, ZoSoRose said: If he views those appearances as good closure, and he is happy, then that is all we can hope for at this point. Too bad how this turned out. I dont blame Frank or Richard, I blame the big 3. They could have incorporated Izzy and Steven for all the AfD songs where they belong. Of course A$xl, $la$h and Duff$ are the ones to blame for this bullshit Gun$ n Alien$ tour Specially Axl cause its pretty obvious that he runs the whole thing and calls most of the shots ("You call your shots and I call mine", right?) BUT that doesnt take the blame away from these two people Richard the guitar player and Frank the drummer The only right thing for these two people to do would be step out of it Walk out Leave Stay out of the way Let it happen Let Guns n Roses happen You just don't stay in the way of Guns n fucking Roses === Specially not after riding the ride of your life for more than a decade on the back of the best singer ever and the best rock songs ever written Yet they stood in the way of Guns n Roses That's what these 2 people did. They didnt have the presence of mind to realize that (once Slash and Duff were back) leaving was the only right thing to do To give way to Izzy Stradlin To give way to Steven Adler To give way to Guns n Roses === The good news in all this nonsense is that they still have a chance to do it Its up to them and nobody else 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, ZoSoRose said: FFS, why is everything around this band so weird and fucked up? GOOD QUESTION Edited January 27, 2017 by ludurigan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuriousStyles Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 7 hours ago, Silent Jay said: the timing on that, you cannot use a metronome to that record. It will not work. It was all feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Riggs Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I personally would just like to know straight up if Axl and Slash plan on releasing new music together. If not, I'm not that interested anymore. We were denied more music from one of the greatest rock bands ever for 20+ years because they imploded. If a new album isn't a main priority after they somehow got past their differences...I can't support that kind of idiocy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Tom-Ass said: i hear ya.. That all kind of went out the window already though :/ Once we knew what the line up was going to be I was kind of let down by Slash and Duff. They always talked about how if they were going to reunite, it would have to be right, all 5 guys. Blahh blahh blahh. Things change but I do wonder sometimes if they should have just left it alone. Time will tell I guess. I am glad I got to see what I did but as fun as it was, I still can't help to feel that things could have been better. I don't really think anything is tarnished at this point though. well said 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Mendez said: If anything, Duff at least likes CITR the most He did say the song stood out to him. Duff's the kind of guy who sees the glass half full though. I think he looks at this as the lesser of all evils type of situation. "Well, I have to deal with GNR stuff, it never goes away, Axl and I are getting along and we'll at least be making a ridiculous amount of $$$ together so, here we go I guess" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 2 hours ago, tsinindy said: That's you speculating...not a fact. Well, it actually is a fact. Actual events can back that up. 2 and 2 kind of equal 4 so...yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 55 minutes ago, ludurigan said: Of course A$xl, $la$h and Duff$ are the ones to blame for this bullshit Gun$ n Alien$ tour Specially Axl cause its pretty obvious that he runs the whole thing and calls most of the shots ("You call your shots and I call mine", right?) BUT that doesnt take the blame away from these two people Richard the guitar player and Frank the drummer The only right thing for these two people to do would be step out of it Walk out Leave Stay out of the way Let it happen Let Guns n Roses happen You just don't stay in the way of Guns n fucking Roses === Specially not after riding the ride of your life for more than a decade on the back of the best singer ever and the best rock songs ever written Yet they stood in the way of Guns n Roses That's what these 2 people did. They didnt have the presence of mind to realize that (once Slash and Duff were back) leaving was the only right thing to do To give way to Izzy Stradlin To give way to Steven Adler To give way to Guns n Roses === The good news in all this nonsense is that they still have a chance to do it Its up to them and nobody else I keep saying it has nothing to do with Richard and Frank. I may be wrong, but who knows. A. They could easily keep them as background musicians and for ChiDem, UYI, and (lol) new CD leftover songs and have Izzy and Steven there on stage. PLENTY of big bands have background musicians aside from GNR... The Stones, Eagles, Pink Floyd, etc. B. Axl could have just decided he wanted other guys there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorderlineCrazy Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Slash said. “I mean, if everybody wanted to do it and do it for the right reasons, I think the fans would love it. I think it might be fun at some point to try and do that.” That's what he said in May, 2015!! Sad how he's idea of "everybody" and "right reasons" changed in a matter of a few months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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