GNR Women's Discussion - Part 2

[Tori72]

42 minutes ago, Boogs said:

10 hours ago and you still waitin, @Tori72?? I started transcribing what he was saying earlier but didn’t finish. When I get home I’ll type it up and post it here x

I’d be so grateful, dearie!  I think it is about going to a pub? Sounds funny but I don’t get what he’s saying.

[Georgina Arriaga]

Slash in the studio

I really want to know with who

[MillionsOfSpiders]

On 18/02/2018 at 9:13 AM, Zoot said:

She stalks them all over the world and only gets away with it because she's rich. By acknowledging her, he's only fueling her irrational behavior.

Not a good idea, IMO.

When she followed Slash on his day trips out to the zoo and the shop opening of his friend it was totally creepy.....and she still hangs around the hotels etc waiting for him even now. It's totally bizarre. 

Oh well. 

[purplestargirl]

Just now, MillionsOfSpiders said:

When she followed Slash on his day trips out to the zoo and the shop opening of his friend it was totally creepy.....and she still hangs around the hotels etc waiting for him even now. It's totally bizarre. 

Oh well. 

Bizarre as in borderline stalking. At least it's not to the point where a restraining order has been issued against her.

[MillionsOfSpiders]

On 18/02/2018 at 11:00 PM, janrichmond said:

Has anyone seen Hollywood Vampires live?

Are you thinking of seeing them? I am going to their Manchester Arena show and I thought £55 was a bit much and then Matt dropped out. I love Alice Cooper and Joe Perry though so it should be good. 

Couldnt care less about Johnny Depp 

Edited February 22, 2018 by MillionsOfSpiders

[Georgina Arriaga]

3 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

Are you thinking of seeing them? I am going to their Manchester Arena show and I thought £55 was a bit much and then Matt dropped out. I love Alice Cooper and Joe Perry though so it should be good. 

Couldnt care less about Johnny Depp 

Enjoy!! Alice Cooper and Joe Perry should be awesome...I didn't know that Depp play in a band

[janrichmond]

27 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

Are you thinking of seeing them? I am going to their Manchester Arena show and I thought £55 was a bit much and then Matt dropped out. I love Alice Cooper and Joe Perry though so it should be good. 

Couldnt care less about Johnny Depp 

Yeah i got tickets for LondonI'm not fussed about Johnny Depp either. I think it'll be a good gig.

[Boogs]

13 hours ago, Tori72 said:

I found this on Youtube today and I need you help, dear native English speakers!  What is Slash saying about Germany and Düsseldorf in the beginning? I can’t understand and I’m dying to know 

 

Ok @Tori72 - here's what I got out of it. Sorry, he doesn't actually say much about Dusseldorf. He seemed to be dissing the town they went to before Dusseldorf (somebody here will know where they played first in Germany), not sure what the reason is. Maybe someone else can figure out what happened - were Duff and Slash not served alcohol (because they were already drunk?); was the alcohol not up to GN'R standards? Was it past closing time?

 

"Thank you for Germany, thank you..." [might be Axl]

"Ten hours on a goddamned airplane, right - I drive myself to alcohol poisoning... almost..."

[??????? maybe "I never say no to ??? it's my favourite", not sure]

"So I get on this fucking plane and we come all the way here, we've never been to fucken Germany right, and we get to fucking Germany right, me and Duff go down to the local pub as you call it, to get a fucking drink, and what happens we go in the, we might as well just spit in our fucking faces, we say alright...fuck...[names town - Hannover?]"

"Next was Dusseldorf, ok Duss is a nice town, but I've been waiting to get to England, and we finally get to the proverbial English rocknroll pub.." [cheering]

"Anyway shhhhh shhh do you guys ever shut up?" [cheering]

"Anyways so right, I'm gonna do this song here with these guys."

"I won't tiddle down around anymore. Anyhow..."

"Fuck you!" [laughing]

"Listen ok."

"So I'm going to do this song, I'm gonna start it off. This is something dedicated to women and love and romance."

"It's something I don't see any of anymore. It's something called 'You're fucking crazy'."

[starts playing 'You're Crazy']

Hope you get something out of all that anyway. 

[MillionsOfSpiders]

8 minutes ago, janrichmond said:

Yeah i got tickets for LondonI'm not fussed about Johnny Depp either. I think it'll be a good gig.

The Damned will be amazing, I saw them at Nottingham Rock City a year or two ago and I loved them. The Darkness are great too, so I'm really looking forward to it. Good support bands for the price. 

[SerenityScorp]

 

[Tori72]

9 minutes ago, Boogs said:

Ok @Tori72 - here's what I got out of it. Sorry, he doesn't actually say much about Dusseldorf. He seemed to be dissing the town they went to before Dusseldorf (somebody here will know where they played first in Germany), not sure what the reason is. Maybe someone else can figure out what happened - were Duff and Slash not served alcohol (because they were already drunk?); was the alcohol not up to GN'R standards? Was it past closing time?

 

"Thank you for Germany, thank you..." [might be Axl]

"Ten hours on a goddamned airplane, right - I drive myself to alcohol poisoning... almost..."

[??????? maybe "I never say no to ??? it's my favourite", not sure]

"So I get on this fucking plane and we come all the way here, we've never been to fucken Germany right, and we get to fucking Germany right, me and Duff go down to the local pub as you call it, to get a fucking drink, and what happens we go in the, we might as well just spit in our fucking faces, we say alright...fuck...[names town - Hannover?]"

"Next was Dusseldorf, ok Duss is a nice town, but I've been waiting to get to England, and we finally get to the proverbial English rocknroll pub.." [cheering]

"Anyway shhhhh shhh do you guys ever shut up?" [cheering]

"Anyways so right, I'm gonna do this song here with these guys."

"I won't tiddle down around anymore. Anyhow..."

"Fuck you!" [laughing]

"Listen ok."

"So I'm going to do this song, I'm gonna start it off. This is something dedicated to women and love and romance."

"It's something I don't see any of anymore. It's something called 'You're fucking crazy'."

[starts playing 'You're Crazy']

Hope you get something out of all that anyway. 

Yay! Thank you so much. I totally missed that he was talking about another town. So they weren’t served or the drinks were being disgusting? lol Can’t understand what town he’s mentioning. That websites here suggest they were in Hamburg before. https://www.setlist.fm/search?page=6&query=guns+n+roses+1987 Doesn’t sound like Hamburg what he’s saying.  Nevermind... Still funny

Thanks again 

Edited February 22, 2018 by Tori72

[janrichmond]

5 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

The Damned will be amazing, I saw them at Nottingham Rock City a year or two ago and I loved them. The Darkness are great too, so I'm really looking forward to it. Good support bands for the price. 

OMG i forgot The Damned were supporting!! I got a feeling inside of me..it's kinda strange like a stormy sea..🎵 🎶

[Boogs]

33 minutes ago, Tori72 said:

Doesn’t sound like Hamburg what he’s saying.

Hey, it totally does sound like “Fuck Hamburg”! But he doesn’t quite explain what happened in the pub there. He was probably too drunk to remember what he started off saying  

[dgnr]

1 hour ago, Boogs said:

"Thank you for Germany, thank you..." [might be Axl]

"Ten hours on a goddamned airplane, right - I drive myself to alcohol poisoning... almost..."

[??????? maybe "I never say no to ??? it's my favourite", not sure]

"So I get on this fucking plane and we come all the way here, we've never been to fucken Germany right, and we get to fucking Germany right, me and Duff go down to the local pub as you call it, to get a fucking drink, and what happens we go in the, we might as well just spit in our fucking faces, we say alright...fuck...[names town - Hannover?]"

"Next was Dusseldorf, ok Duss is a nice town, but I've been waiting to get to England, and we finally get to the proverbial English rocknroll pub.." [cheering]

"Anyway shhhhh shhh do you guys ever shut up?" [cheering]

"Anyways so right, I'm gonna do this song here with these guys."

"I won't tiddle down around anymore. Anyhow..."

"Fuck you!" [laughing]

"Listen ok."

"So I'm going to do this song, I'm gonna start it off. This is something dedicated to women and love and romance."

"It's something I don't see any of anymore. It's something called 'You're fucking crazy'."

[starts playing 'You're Crazy']

Hope you get something out of all that anyway. 

LOL. This whole speech, wtf?  I love young - probably drunk - Slash, he was so cheerfull   Wish I could have some hint of him in this NITL tour, it would be so much fun!! Thanks, Boogs, for writing it down 

[MillionsOfSpiders]

Slash waiting to get to England only to find all of the pubs chuck you out 11:30pm! 

[purplestargirl]

58 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

Slash waiting to get to England only to find all of the pubs chuck you out 11:30pm! 

Was it the same back then as it is now?

[MillionsOfSpiders]

Just now, purplestargirl said:

Was it the same back then as it is now?

Yeah! Lots of places had/have illegal lock ins but normally they only let the regulars stay for that. 

Clubs stay open longer. 

[purplestargirl]

Just now, MillionsOfSpiders said:

Yeah! Lots of places had/have illegal lock ins but normally they only let the regulars stay for that. 

Clubs stay open longer. 

Slash and Duff probably went to the clubs then.

[MillionsOfSpiders]

Just now, purplestargirl said:

Slash and Duff probably went to the clubs then.

I'm sure Slash or Niven himself said that Niven booked GnR into a really quiet area when they came to England to try and keep them out of trouble. They couldn't get to the city centre because public transport stops at a ridiculous time and they couldn't walk as it was too far and all the pubs shut at 11:30pm!! 

[Georgina Arriaga]

According to this, Download in UK for saturday 9 of june  (GNR day) is completely sold out

http://www.nme.com/blogs/festivals-blog/download-line-up-2018-2247506

 

[MillionsOfSpiders]

3 hours ago, Georgina Arriaga said:

According to this, Download in UK for saturday 9 of june  (GNR day) is completely sold out

http://www.nme.com/blogs/festivals-blog/download-line-up-2018-2247506

 

They've not put the day tickets on sale yet and weekend tickets are still available. It will be really packed on GnR day, though. 

[Blackstar]

What Slash recalled in his book from the 1987 tour in Germany:

Spoiler

It was our first headlining tour; it began in Germany, at the Markthalle in Hamburg on September 29, 1987. It was great to headline, but we had a few issues. (...) 

The tour was also a bit of a culture shock: Hamburg still felt like it was a post–World War II casualty—the place had a pretty narrow viewpoint. It was a dark, industrial, sort of sour city  that seemed, as a whole, as if they’d rather not have us there if they could help it. That kind of environment always inspired us to show our true colors more than usual, which didn’t go over well. Every time we’d walk into a restaurant, every head cranked around and the room got quiet. And when it did, we were all the more determined to order a bunch of drinks and smoke and carry on more than we ever would have done in the first place. (...)

All across Germany, and especially in Hamburg, there are outrageously graphic porno shops, usually in a very-easy-to-find, central location, and that is where we went. I was excited to no end—I’d never seen anything so obscene in my life. I was like a kid in a candy store, pulling these insane graphic magazines off the shelf—beastiality, pregnant women, just the most depraved things imaginable—holding them up for the other guys like, “Have you fucking seen this?” (...)

Our first stop [in Hamburg[ was lunch at Euro McDonald’s. I had become a huge McRib fan during the recording of Appetite, so that was the height of cuisine to me. I was happy to see the McRib on the menu in Hamburg, and to the naked eye, it looked like the real deal, but it wasn’t: instead of barbecue, it had some kind of anonymous brown sauce on it. There went my one meal for the day. The reason why we were so emaciated back then was that we never really ate anything. In any case, we wandered around all afternoon, and when it got to be evening, we headed to the Reeperbahn, which is a street that is five straight blocks of brothels where no women are allowed—just like Amsterdam’s red-light district, every type of girl you can imagine is available. We were in heaven: we’d never seen anything like it and at the time we didn’t have friends in bands who had been around more than we had, so no crew of seasoned guys had told us anything about this place. I was tripping out. (...) We left the Reeperbahn and went to some bar that was one of the places the Beatles played when they were starting out. Once again, we walked in there and we were the scourge of the earth, but we didn’t care; we drank Jack with one cube of ice per drink (because that’s all that they would put in the glass) until they closed. (...)

The next night we did the gig, the first one of our headlining tour, and it’s good that it didn’t set a precedent. The venue was on the water; it was this really industrial, dark room with benches and long tables on the sides. Everything in there was painted black—it was the blackest club I’ve ever seen and it just reeked of stale beer. On the walls were signatures and graffiti from every single heavy metal and thrash band who had been through there, which appeared to be many. The audience was without a doubt the most lackluster crowd we had ever played to in our lives: as I recall, they were as cold and miserable as the weather. I remember that before we went on and the second we got off, the club played nothing but Metallica, nonstop. It was obvious that any American band, or any band at all, that didn’t sound like Metallica wasn’t going to go over. And I was right. We got through the show and the only thought going around in my mind when we finished was I would fucking hate to have to do this again tomorrow.

I was extremely apprehensive about how the rest of the tour was going to go—particularly since we had more than a few dates to do in Germany. We had a few days to go before the next gig, during which time my worry escalated. But once we got to Düsseldorf, an airier city with more trees and fewer bomb shelters, it was such a drastically different scene that I realized just how big and how diverse a country Germany is: the individual vibe of each city is unique.

So he was definitely talking about Hamburg in that video, @Tori72 . And he remembered all that in his book after all those years 

[Alja]

26 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

So he was definitely talking about Hamburg in that video, @Tori72 . And he remembered all that in his book after all those years 

I always wondered how Slash could be high on heroin & booze and remember all those people and things that happened. Amount of people makes me wonder even more. Like... this guy is f*ckin` social.

Edited February 24, 2018 by Alja

[Tori72]

30 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

What Slash recalled in his book from the 1987 tour in Germany:

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It was our first headlining tour; it began in Germany, at the Markthalle in Hamburg on September 29, 1987. It was great to headline, but we had a few issues. (...) 

The tour was also a bit of a culture shock: Hamburg still felt like it was a post–World War II casualty—the place had a pretty narrow viewpoint. It was a dark, industrial, sort of sour city  that seemed, as a whole, as if they’d rather not have us there if they could help it. That kind of environment always inspired us to show our true colors more than usual, which didn’t go over well. Every time we’d walk into a restaurant, every head cranked around and the room got quiet. And when it did, we were all the more determined to order a bunch of drinks and smoke and carry on more than we ever would have done in the first place. (...)

All across Germany, and especially in Hamburg, there are outrageously graphic porno shops, usually in a very-easy-to-find, central location, and that is where we went. I was excited to no end—I’d never seen anything so obscene in my life. I was like a kid in a candy store, pulling these insane graphic magazines off the shelf—beastiality, pregnant women, just the most depraved things imaginable—holding them up for the other guys like, “Have you fucking seen this?” (...)

Our first stop [in Hamburg[ was lunch at Euro McDonald’s. I had become a huge McRib fan during the recording of Appetite, so that was the height of cuisine to me. I was happy to see the McRib on the menu in Hamburg, and to the naked eye, it looked like the real deal, but it wasn’t: instead of barbecue, it had some kind of anonymous brown sauce on it. There went my one meal for the day. The reason why we were so emaciated back then was that we never really ate anything. In any case, we wandered around all afternoon, and when it got to be evening, we headed to the Reeperbahn, which is a street that is five straight blocks of brothels where no women are allowed—just like Amsterdam’s red-light district, every type of girl you can imagine is available. We were in heaven: we’d never seen anything like it and at the time we didn’t have friends in bands who had been around more than we had, so no crew of seasoned guys had told us anything about this place. I was tripping out. (...) We left the Reeperbahn and went to some bar that was one of the places the Beatles played when they were starting out. Once again, we walked in there and we were the scourge of the earth, but we didn’t care; we drank Jack with one cube of ice per drink (because that’s all that they would put in the glass) until they closed. (...)

The next night we did the gig, the first one of our headlining tour, and it’s good that it didn’t set a precedent. The venue was on the water; it was this really industrial, dark room with benches and long tables on the sides. Everything in there was painted black—it was the blackest club I’ve ever seen and it just reeked of stale beer. On the walls were signatures and graffiti from every single heavy metal and thrash band who had been through there, which appeared to be many. The audience was without a doubt the most lackluster crowd we had ever played to in our lives: as I recall, they were as cold and miserable as the weather. I remember that before we went on and the second we got off, the club played nothing but Metallica, nonstop. It was obvious that any American band, or any band at all, that didn’t sound like Metallica wasn’t going to go over. And I was right. We got through the show and the only thought going around in my mind when we finished was I would fucking hate to have to do this again tomorrow.

I was extremely apprehensive about how the rest of the tour was going to go—particularly since we had more than a few dates to do in Germany. We had a few days to go before the next gig, during which time my worry escalated. But once we got to Düsseldorf, an airier city with more trees and fewer bomb shelters, it was such a drastically different scene that I realized just how big and how diverse a country Germany is: the individual vibe of each city is unique.

So he was definitely talking about Hamburg in that video, @Tori72 . And he remembered all that in his book after all those years 

Oh wow. Thank you @Blackstar!! It is amazing how much he remembers of that tour. I’m very surprised that people were so shocked of them in Hamburg. Hamburg is not only famous for its huge red light district but also for it’s music scene. Also I was alive in 87 and 88 and rocker dudes looked like them. Not as flamboyant maybe as them. Especially not in stage gear but nevertheless. 

I lived in Hamburg in the 90s and it’s true that some people there can be very strict and conservative. I’m quite sorry for Slash that people were so prejudiced. 

[killuridols]

If I'm not mistaken I think Axl mentions something about Hamburg or Germany in one of his letters to Erin.