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47 minutes ago, Ratam said:

I today read that an 96 years old woman get the vaccine. She saved of the Auswichz camps. She live in UK

Great news for that woman to survive the camps.  She deserved that vaccine.

My parents are getting their first covid vaccines on Thursday. My mom's friend went to the same place and she said it was organized and went very quickly. Everyone has an email and a special number. Finally!

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What the fuck do they know? If I'm looking for advice from a rock band on how viruses are transmitted I will ask Queen thank you very much.

The mother of my aunt just died from covid19 in the Netherlands. No funeral and she can't go there. This situation is so fucked up.

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2 hours ago, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said:

Great news for that woman to survive the camps.  She deserved that vaccine.

My parents are getting their first covid vaccines on Thursday. My mom's friend went to the same place and she said it was organized and went very quickly. Everyone has an email and a special number. Finally!

Good luck to your parents!! 

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9 hours ago, downzy said:

I watched Bill Maher's latest episode and it's disappointing that he had on Bret Weinstein and his wife, spouting disproven nonsense that the virus was made in the lab.  Both are biologists, but neither are epidemiologists or virologists.  Their argument is based largely on the discredit report pushed by Steve Bannon of all people.

It would be one thing for Maher to provide a platform for both arguments, but he doesn't.  He allows only the former professors turned culture warriors crusaders to present their case with zero pushback or any credible response from people who know better.  

https://news.yahoo.com/bill-maher-pushes-bonkers-steve-050238602.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALSQC6CYlM5c_k-6QQCvFxjNtw6v1txMdc9AIiTDTs-tcKcqYxGVt0mR3sTqSu9qhPfyvxb0IxXuEDlcXBJpKVtrbHCm7nOAyeAjnz9hmZ_1JWitDClZdP_XoLkFDAQGv4MlQDh6_4JkQC4Mb9GzLYIsMvxx6bfW4qs2_fTjUnZe

I'm a fan of Bill Maher but he's been pulling this bullshit for a while. Borderline antivax nonsense that is effectively "teach the controversy" in all but name. Was really disappointed when I saw that shit this week.

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12 hours ago, Dazey said:

I'm a fan of Bill Maher but he's been pulling this bullshit for a while. Borderline antivax nonsense that is effectively "teach the controversy" in all but name. Was really disappointed when I saw that shit this week.

It's almost as if he's two different people or has two different shows.  The first segment of ten minute, one-on-one, interviews are too often trainwrecks that showcase's Maher's worst tendencies.  Then when he joins the panel he mellows out a bit and becomes a bit more of a human being that's capable of being an equal opportunity critic.  His final rant on Waxman and the ineffectiveness of the performative progressivism is Maher at his best.  It's just a shame he doesn't apply the same kind of critical analysis to those who come on his show (particularly if they're right-wing culture warriors) as he does with the worst elements of the left.  

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Data from Oxford scientists re the Astra-Zeneca vaccine shows that it's about 67% effective at preventing transmission. If true this is massive news.

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5 hours ago, Dazey said:

Data from Oxford scientists re the Astra-Zeneca vaccine shows that it's about 67% effective at preventing transmission. If true this is massive news.

Irrevelant as the virus will now be in the library reading books and teaching itself how to overcome this latest challenge. 

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23 hours ago, Ratam said:

Good luck to your parents!! 

Thanks so much.  Glad they finally got word. Tomorrow is the big day. I hope we all can get the vaccine soon and get rid of this terrible virus. Too many people are sick and dying.

53 minutes ago, spunko12345 said:

Irrevelant as the virus will now be in the library reading books and teaching itself how to overcome this latest challenge. 

I know right? I too think this virus is a super virus and will continue to change every chance it gets, but getting a vaccine will hopefully curb a person from getting very sick or dying. Let's hope so anyway, but who knows?

20 hours ago, Dazey said:

I'm a fan of Bill Maher but he's been pulling this bullshit for a while. Borderline antivax nonsense that is effectively "teach the controversy" in all but name. Was really disappointed when I saw that shit this week.

Guess since Trump lost the election, Bill has to move on to some other shit. usually he makes sense, but I guess he's open to everything now.

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58 minutes ago, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said:

I know right? I too think this virus is a super virus and will continue to change every chance it gets, but getting a vaccine will hopefully curb a person from getting very sick or dying. Let's hope so anyway, but who knows?

Yeah i know right, its like the virus has a bigger brain than us or something.

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9 hours ago, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said:

I know right? I too think this virus is a super virus and will continue to change every chance it gets,

It lies in the nature of viruses (as well as any living creature, hence why we develop cancers) to mutate. And some viruses tend to mutate in ways that allows them to quickly become immune to vaccines. A prime example is the flu virus, resulting in seasonal flu strains, and the outcome is that we have to develop new vaccines every year. Whether SARS-Cov-2 (the virus causing Covid-19) will also mutate in such ways to evade our vaccine-primed immune systems, is too early to tell. But it isn't implausible that the vaccines we have developed for Covid-19 and have now been approved, only gives us a temporary immunity and that we need to continuously develop new vaccines as we do for the flu. If so Covid-19, like the flu, will likely become fixed staples of the human condition - just diseases that we have to accept as normal. But by then, the effect of vaccines and herd immunity will make it less prevalent and it won't be such a huge problems to us as it has in 2020 and now in 2021.

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Got to give credit where it's due. Boris and his band of baboons have fucked up pretty much every aspect of governance during this pandemic but on the vaccines we're absolutely smashing it out of the park. Projecting right now that we'll have the entire over 50's population vaccinated by April at this rate.

 

 

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My parents got their first covid shot today. Everything was very organized and plenty of police to help them get around the stadium parking lot. It took all of 15 minutes. The longest time was waiting to make sure they got no reaction to the shot. Already got their next appt set up.

Hopefully, things will continue to go as well for all of us.

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UK Hotel self isolation ONLY from RED countrys comes in too play  15th Feb if you arrive in UK you will have to pay for a Hotel.

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Interesting study on why some countries cope less well with the pandemic than others: The relationship between cultural tightness–looseness and COVID-19 cases and deaths: a global analysis - The Lancet Planetary Health

Key term is "cultural tightness-looseness" which says something about how likely citizens are to follow recommendations. More culturally tight countries, like Japan, China, Austria, etc, will tend to do better because people are more likely to do as requested by the government. While more culturally loose countries, like Mexico, USA, UK, will tend to do worse because people are more likely to not adhere to regulations.

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That's very interesting. There's certainly an IDGAF strain in some people which extends to Covid. 

The only person I know of who has broken the rules in a big way, is of someone who threw a birthday party for her six year old child. Maybe a dozen kids attended. She's a friend of a friend. She used to be a successful porn actress. Several people tried to report her, but there was nothing that could be done unless the party was still happening. I never wanted to conclude that people who get their genitals out for a job have fewer inhibitions, as that would be judgemental of me. :ph34r:

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Looks all but certain the strain coming out of Britain will be the dominant strain in North America by March.

Hopefully the vaccine rollout picks up speed and the most vulnerable are protected by the time the more infectious strain takes over.  

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32 minutes ago, downzy said:

Looks all but certain the strain coming out of Britain will be the dominant strain in North America by March.

We've been biding our time and Paul Revere is nowhere to be fucking seen*. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

* too soon? :lol: 

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On 2/4/2021 at 1:27 PM, Dazey said:

Got to give credit where it's due. Boris and his band of baboons have fucked up pretty much every aspect of governance during this pandemic but on the vaccines we're absolutely smashing it out of the park. Projecting right now that we'll have the entire over 50's population vaccinated by April at this rate.

 

 

It has been quite impressive all things considered.

But how much of this has to do with them rolling the dice on the Astra/Oxford vaccine?  I believe I recall them really pushing that one through and hence were able to get a jump start on how many doses were available. 

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My parents got notice by email about their second dose of the moderna vaccine. It's in March and they need to just bring their card that was given to them after the first shot.

I'm so happy my city is doing a great job with distributing the vaccines in an orderly fashion and as quick as possible to as many people as possible.

Some cities aren't doing such a great job.  Very sad. it's a race against time.

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On 2/9/2021 at 9:38 AM, SoulMonster said:

But how about the UK mutant? Was that developed in an English lab? Why has no one investigated this!!! WE DEMAND REPARATIONS!

I saw a CNN special with Anderson Cooper talking to a reporter in China cities and how they transport live animals, including bats and other reptiles and how these crates are just stacked on each other so any secretions any animals have they go into other animals cages. Gross. Also I guess people in China buy their animals live and then take them home to kill them and eat them? Don't they have supermarkets like the rest of the world? Just gross and this is why we have covid. Either way it began in China and spread like crazy.  It's still seems unreal on how fast it spread and how after a year we are still trying to slow it down and save lives.

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On 2/4/2021 at 7:27 PM, Dazey said:

Got to give credit where it's due. Boris and his band of baboons have fucked up pretty much every aspect of governance during this pandemic but on the vaccines we're absolutely smashing it out of the park. Projecting right now that we'll have the entire over 50's population vaccinated by April at this rate.

 

 

Yeah the UK is doing good so far when it comes to vaccinating

The EU really fucked up the whole vaccine thing... I’m from Germany and I’m usually quite content with german politics, but I think the fact that Germany had the EU council presidency during the time when the whole vaccine thing started rolling, really made things worse... German politicians are really into their goal of the „schwarze Null“ which means not making more than 0.35% of the countries gdp in new debt. So instead of making new debt for the order of the vaccine, they rather save themselves (or rather others) to death (literally)

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So far my mom and two sisters have vaccine appointments this week and one Aunt, and all of my grandparents have already received both doses.

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The UK's strategy might also, unfortunately, backfire. Data is not looking promising for the Astrazenica vaccine when it comes to the SA variant. Hopefully they can buy enough time before they get more doses of one of the other vaccines. I think the Cansino, Novavax, and Johnson and Johnson vaccines should help too if those are more effective against these new mutations

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